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Old 12-21-2018, 09:06 PM   #1
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The new wordpress sucks

The new freaking wordpress sucks. Writing a post is like pulling teeth. I don't need "different blocks". I just want to write a damn post.

Instead of writing a paragraph you have to "insert a block" - for a block of text - and if you want that block to include a picture it has to be a "picture block" - no more "insert media button".

Who the fuck decided on this? It's horrible.
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Old 12-21-2018, 09:22 PM   #2
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Just install this to get rid of it: https://wordpress.org/plugins/classic-editor/
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Old 12-21-2018, 10:24 PM   #3
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Yeah I hate how it moves around and blocks the options to the right when editing. You can change it back easily with a plug in for the record. I think they are trying to dumb it down which is good but for experienced people it’s slower.
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Old 12-21-2018, 10:41 PM   #4
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Just install this to get rid of it: https://wordpress.org/plugins/classic-editor/
But wait.....

"Venim"

aka

"Venum"

is poison

Right?

So you want people to install "inject" poison!

You are trying to infect people here




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Old 12-21-2018, 10:48 PM   #5
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Out of interest, what's the purpose of the site? I may know a better solution than Wordpress.
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Old 12-22-2018, 02:02 AM   #6
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Just install this to get rid of it: https://wordpress.org/plugins/classic-editor/
Yes... and it is featured on the welcome page. What the idiot has decided to kill the editor which was just... working. I have a long story of communications with the developers and I can admit, these guys are hmm... let's call them unusual.
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Old 12-22-2018, 02:52 AM   #7
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Old 12-22-2018, 05:13 AM   #8
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Old 12-22-2018, 05:15 AM   #9
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This new post page is horrible, for some themes where manually input work is needed the posts take 10-20 more seconds to add. Switched to the classic editor the same day, god thanks for plug coders with a soul.
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Out of interest, what's the purpose of the site? I may know a better solution than Wordpress.
Nah, I need to stick with Wordpress.
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Old 12-22-2018, 06:08 AM   #11
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Just install this to get rid of it: https://wordpress.org/plugins/classic-editor/
Lifesaver! This is awesome!
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Old 12-22-2018, 08:28 AM   #12
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Lifesaver! This is awesome!
This plugin is shown right on the welcome page of WordPress 5.0.2. update ;)
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Old 12-22-2018, 08:57 AM   #13
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Agreed I was trying to write a post last night and gave up halfway through and switched back to the old one.

I'm sure I'll get used to it at somepoint but right now I don't have the time for it.
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Old 12-22-2018, 09:01 AM   #14
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20+ of those installs are on my sites...lol
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Old 12-22-2018, 10:01 AM   #15
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And now coders for WordPress have to support the new Gutenberg code as well as the 'classic' code as well. Pain in the ass....
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So far it sucks. I have ran into a bunch of issues with it as well.
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Old 12-22-2018, 10:38 AM   #17
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I like the new style lol
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Old 12-22-2018, 04:32 PM   #18
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Old 12-22-2018, 05:18 PM   #19
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I hate it too.
It messed up the back end of my site.

So, in the main edit window I used to be able to scroll down to see the full post I was editing. With Gutenberg, I can't scroll down. To me the update is useless.
Also, it always seems to be saving draft. I literally couldn't do anything because the update was constantly spinning.
Then there are these stupid blocks....

Fuck...

Oh and if you try to revert within Gutenberg it doesn't work.

I also installed classic editor. Really hope Wordpress will admit the mistake and rollback. Seems like they shot themselves in the foot with this one.
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Old 12-23-2018, 03:45 AM   #20
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20+ of those installs are on my sites...lol
80+ will be on mine.
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Out of interest, what's the purpose of the site? I may know a better solution than Wordpress.
what are the wordpress alternatives ? with regularly maintained code.
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what are the wordpress alternatives ? with regularly maintained code.
If you're deploying a number of sites a headless CMS is the way to go these days.

Not everything is presented on the web anymore and websites aren't necessarily the only thing you need to get your content to.

A Headless CMS is a CMS like Wordpress but without a front end. All the pictures, images and text and any other content are retrieved via an API.

That means you can deploy lightweight Web based front ends, Apps, IoT projects, access your data on Watches, Phones, TVs and any other device you can think of.

It also means, for a webmaster, that you can run a lightweight code only site on the front end, using any templates or web technology you like without worrying about the content, because the content is managed from a single instance of whatever Headless CMS you deploy.

From the content side, it means you don't have to worry about how to display large amounts of content, because you have the freedom to deploy these lightweight sites to suit the content you have. In one place you have have a massive amount of content with better tools to manage it, search it, scale it, edit it and multiple data types of content not just pictures, video or images but full collections, for example you can have multiple galleries of images and retrieve a whole gallery as a single collection, or.a category of galleries as a single collection.

For some people it's overkill but for many people it completely changes the way things are done for the better.

Wordpress has an API but it's not the best, in fact it's one of the worst CMS to use as a Headless CMS. There are several better solutions.

If anyone is interested in the subject I'll start a thread on it.
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Glad I spotted this thread. Was about to upgrade several blogs with the new system today, but reading this, no way!

In some ways, this reminds me how how badly Apple fucked up when they went from Final Cut Pro to Final Cut X (basically a badly revamped version of iMovie) some years ago to dumb down the user experience. Adobe Premier had the cash register going KaChing for a long time after that bungle.
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If you're deploying a number of sites a headless CMS is the way to go these days.

Not everything is presented on the web anymore and websites aren't necessarily the only thing you need to get your content to.

A Headless CMS is a CMS like Wordpress but without a front end. All the pictures, images and text and any other content are retrieved via an API.

That means you can deploy lightweight Web based front ends, Apps, IoT projects, access your data on Watches, Phones, TVs and any other device you can think of.

It also means, for a webmaster, that you can run a lightweight code only site on the front end, using any templates or web technology you like without worrying about the content, because the content is managed from a single instance of whatever Headless CMS you deploy.

From the content side, it means you don't have to worry about how to display large amounts of content, because you have the freedom to deploy these lightweight sites to suit the content you have. In one place you have have a massive amount of content with better tools to manage it, search it, scale it, edit it and multiple data types of content not just pictures, video or images but full collections, for example you can have multiple galleries of images and retrieve a whole gallery as a single collection, or.a category of galleries as a single collection.

For some people it's overkill but for many people it completely changes the way things are done for the better.

Wordpress has an API but it's not the best, in fact it's one of the worst CMS to use as a Headless CMS. There are several better solutions.

If anyone is interested in the subject I'll start a thread on it.
Please do. Kinda fed up with wp.
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Old 12-23-2018, 01:14 PM   #25
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Old 12-23-2018, 06:48 PM   #26
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A dozen installs of the 'classic editor' plugin here.

I tried to like it but it was just way too much of a pain in the arse.

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