Manafort was sharing Trump campaign data with Russian intelligence.. No collusion, no collusion..

[crockett]

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/08/u... type=Homepage



Geee why would Trump's campaign staff want to share Trump's polling data with the Russians.. The Russians who were actively targeting our election to support Trump. I just can't imagine whyyy he would want to do that../ can anyone help me out here???? /s


In before ...but..but Hillary... No collusion, no collusion!!


WASHINGTON — Paul Manafort shared Trump campaign polling data with an associate tied to Russian intelligence during the 2016 campaign, prosecutors alleged, according to a court filing unsealed on Tuesday.

The accusations came to light in a document filed by Mr. Manafort’s defense lawyers that was supposed to be partly blacked out but contained a formatting error that accidentally revealed the information.

Prosecutors for the special counsel, Robert S. Mueller III, broke off a plea agreement with Mr. Manafort in November, accusing him of repeatedly lying to them. The details of their accusations have been kept largely secret until now.

In one portion of the filing that Mr. Manafort’s lawyers tried to redact, they instead also revealed that Mr. Manafort “may have discussed a Ukraine peace plan” with the Russian associate, Konstantin V. Kilimnik, “on more than one occasion.”

Investigators have been questioning witnesses about whether Russia tried to influence the Trump administration to broker a resolution to hostilities between Russia and Ukraine. Various “peace plans” were proposed, including at least one that called for the lifting of American sanctions against Russia. Mr. Manafort and Mr. Kilimnik had worked closely together for years on behalf of Russia-aligned Ukrainian interests.

Prosecutors have also accused Mr. Manafort of misleading them about his contacts with senior administration officials, about a payment from a pro-Trump political action committee made to cover his legal expenses, and about how he and Mr. Kilimnik tried to influence the testimony of witnesses to ward off criminal charges.

In their filing, Mr. Manafort’s defense lawyers said that Mr. Manafort never intentionally misled federal authorities. Instead, they blamed a faulty memory, lack of access to his own records and illness for his mistakes, saying their client has gout, depression and anxiety.

But they said that they would not seek a hearing to challenge the prosecutors’ assertions Mr. Manafort lied, a decision that brings Mr. Manafort one step closer to being sentenced for his crimes. He was convicted last year of 10 felonies including conspiracy to obstruct justice and failure to disclose years of lobbying work for pro-Russia oligarchs in Ukraine.

The decision not to seek a hearing reflected the dearth of legal choices for Mr. Manafort, 69, who led Mr. Trump’s campaign during a crucial period in mid-2016, then became a prime target of Mr. Mueller’s team. One prosecution in Northern Virginia resulted in his jury conviction in August for bank fraud, tax fraud and other financial crimes. A second led to his guilty plea in September on two conspiracy charges.


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He agreed then to assist federal prosecutors in any matter they deemed of interest, including the special counsel’s investigation of Russia’s interference in the 2016 presidential election and the Trump campaign. He met 12 times with prosecutors or investigators from the special counsel’s team and from other offices, traveling from a detention center in suburban Washington where he has been held in solitary confinement since June.

The plea agreement gives the prosecutors the power to almost unilaterally decide whether Mr. Manafort has violated it. Unless Mr. Manafort can show they acted in bad faith — a high bar — their judgment stands. The prosecutors could also decide to file new charges against Mr. Manafort for lying to them, but do not plan to do so, according to the defense lawyers’ filing, unsealed Tuesday.

“They have him so deeply in the soup here that what both sides are almost saying is that this doesn’t matter,” said Nancy Gertner, a Harvard Law School professor.

The new filing came one month after Judge Amy Berman Jackson said in Federal District Court in Washington that she needed to know more about the prosecutors’ latest accusations against Mr. Manafort before she sentenced him on two conspiracy charges, which carry a maximum penalty of five years each. Judge T.S. Ellis III in Northern Virginia will sentence him for the other eight felonies.

[Phoenix]

If it wasn't for the damn clerical error i would have gotten away with it

[directfiesta]

but hilary's emails !!!!

[crockett]

Originally Posted by Phoenix

If it wasn't for the damn clerical error i would have gotten away with it

You can laugh it up all you want but you will be forever remember as the guy who supported a traitor till the end..

[crockett]

Originally Posted by directfiesta

but hilary's emails !!!!

I've never seen that picture before

[onwebcam]

It wasn't a clerical error... The government does redactions not independent lawyers... Buzzfeed was tipped off to the "error" I wonder why they didn't mention the other unredacted redactions referring to Ukraine in that article?

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by directfiesta

but hilary's emails !!!!

[Rochard]

Why would Trump's campaign manager being sharing polling information with the Russians? That is collusion. Period.

[King Mark]

Originally Posted by directfiesta

but hilary's emails !!!!

Just a heads up, I'm stealing this

[crockett]

Originally Posted by Rochard

Why would Trump's campaign manager being sharing polling information with the Russians? That is collusion. Period.

..but..but..but.. Trump said he didn't do nuffins wrong if the Russians helped him it was all by themselves.. No collusion, no collusion, no collusion and butter emails!

[onwebcam]

Originally Posted by Rochard

Why would Trump's campaign manager being sharing polling information with the Russians? That is collusion. Period.

Looks like you got'em.. Russians don't have TV or internet. BTW wasn't Hillary leading the polls?

[Phoenix]

Originally Posted by crockett

You can laugh it up all you want but you will be forever remember as the guy who supported a traitor till the end..

i will switch to the next winning team and mock their butthurtness as well.
let's see who it is in 2020

[Phoenix]

[crockett]

Phoenix has nothing intelligent to say ever, another for the ignore list.. too many morons taking up too much time..

[Phoenix]

Originally Posted by crockett

Phoenix has nothing intelligent to say ever, another for the ignore list.. too many morons taking up too much time..

lol...embrace your heroes
how many guys here ask for alone time with young children?
you are fuckin creepy

[crockett]

It seems none of our GFY red hats can explain why Trump's campaign manager would be working directly with Russia's intelligence agency to provide campaign stats. Guess they haven't got the "talking points" yet..

big secrecy it seems... no collusion, no collusion, no collusion!!!

[Rochard]

And now.... We find out Manafort traveled to Madrid to meet with this Russian agent. LOL.

But no collusion.

[onwebcam]

Originally Posted by Rochard

And now.... We find out Manafort traveled to Madrid to meet with this Russian agent. LOL.

But no collusion.

Those meetings happened in 2017.. Manafort was long gone from Trumps campaign by then.. Once again you're getting played.. By "planted" unredacted redactions. You won't be told that tidbit of info by your favorite propaganda network I'm sure.

[AdultKing]

OP could have posted this to anywhere else, but posts it here just to fuck up an adult industry forum, well done OP

[TheSquealer]

[Rochard]

This was clearly a back channel effort to get the Russian government polling data. You know this wasn't a one time thing - They did this all through the campaign.

[_Richard_]

Originally Posted by directfiesta

but hilary's emails !!!!

[RedFred]

There's no doubt there was collusion and this just proves it. The only question now is how high up it goes and I think we all know the answer to that.

[Sarn]

it 110% collusion, impeeachh coming soon, just need a little wait near ~5 years else

[crockett]

Originally Posted by AdultKing

OP could have posted this to anywhere else, but posts it here just to fuck up an adult industry forum, well done OP

You are just in denial that this is still a industry forum..

[onwebcam]

Originally Posted by Rochard

This was clearly a back channel effort to get the Russian government polling data. You know this wasn't a one time thing - They did this all through the campaign.

Yes they really wanted that polling data that can be bought and paid for by literally anyone.

[2MuchMark]

Originally Posted by TheSquealer

You're lazy. Obama was talking about voter fraud — not Russia.

Trump cites a misleading Obama quote to say Russia didn’t interfere in the election.

President Donald Trump tweeted a quote from former President Barack Obama on Tuesday morning as part of his continual attempts to downplay Russian interference in the 2016 election. There’s just one problem: The quote is taken vastly out of context and therefore misleading.

“There is no serious person out there who would suggest somehow that you could even — you could even rig America’s elections, in part, because they are so decentralized and the numbers of votes involved,” Obama said during a press conference at the White House in October 2016. “There is no evidence that that has happened in the past or that there are instances in which that will happen this time. And so I’d invite Mr. Trump to stop whining and go try to make his case to get votes.”

Obama’s remarks were in reference to the then-Republican presidential candidate’s claims that widespread voter fraud would rob him of the election, and his encouragement of his supporters to monitor polling places — and not at all about Russian interference in the election. (Numerous studies have found that voter fraud is very rare in the US.)

Source: https://www.vox.com/policy-and-polit...lection-russia

Stop relying on memes.

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by crockett

Phoenix has nothing intelligent to say ever, another for the ignore list.. too many morons taking up too much time..

Yep! He's been on my ignore list for a year The really dumb ones that just say stupid shit to piss people off are a waste of time.

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by RedFred

There's no doubt there was collusion and this just proves it. The only question now is how high up it goes and I think we all know the answer to that.

We all know it goes all the way to Trump.

Trump lied about the Trump tower meeting. He lied for a reason, and that show intent and the fact that he knew he was doing something wrong.

[onwebcam]

Correction: January 8, 2019
A previous version of this article misidentified the people to whom Paul Manafort wanted a Russian associate to send polling data. Mr. Manafort wanted the data sent to two Ukrainian oligarchs, Serhiy Lyovochkin and Rinat Akhmetov, not Oleg V. Deripaska, a Russian oligarch close to the Kremlin.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/08/u...-kilimnik.html

Ukraine, Ukraine. Ukraine...........

Ukrainian efforts to sabotage Trump backfire
Kiev officials are scrambling to make amends with the president-elect after quietly working to boost Clinton.
https://www.politico.com/story/2017/...ackfire-233446


Ukraine, Ukraine. Ukraine...........


Hillary, Obama and Soros' pet project... Ukraine...

[Rochard]

This goes all the way to Trump. Not sure if we can prove it or not. I doubt he was that smart to hide his tracks well.

I can't imagine what it feels like for Manafort... He is locked up in prison and the truth is about to come out how he committed treason...

[onwebcam]

Originally Posted by Rochard

This goes all the way to Trump. Not sure if we can prove it or not. I doubt he was that smart to hide his tracks well.

I can't imagine what it feels like for Manafort... He is locked up in prison and the truth is about to come out how he committed treason...

Totally ignored Ukraine, Ukraine. Ukraine........... Correction I see..

[Sarn]

Originally Posted by onwebcam

Totally ignored Ukraine, Ukraine. Ukraine........... Correction I see..

https://coub.com/view/48dtbrm8

[Acepimp]

Originally Posted by crockett

It seems none of our GFY red hats can explain why Trump's campaign manager would be working directly with Russia's intelligence agency to provide campaign stats. Guess they haven't got the "talking points" yet..

big secrecy it seems... no collusion, no collusion, no collusion!!!

That's because it's FAKE NEWS, Crockette. It's false, a lie, untrue, Democrat propaganda. The fake new York times had to issue a correction and admit they were wrong. Is any of this getting thru??

[RedFred]

Originally Posted by Acepimp

That's because it's FAKE NEWS, Crockette. It's false, a lie, untrue, Democrat propaganda. The fake new York times had to issue a correction and admit they were wrong. Is any of this getting thru??

You're a FAKE AMERICAN, Asspimp. You're false, a lie, untrue, Russian propaganda. Is any of this getting thru??

[BaldBastard]

Originally Posted by Acepimp

That's because it's FAKE NEWS, Crockette. It's false, a lie, untrue, Democrat propaganda. The fake new York times had to issue a correction and admit they were wrong. Is any of this getting thru??

What's not getting through is this is more trouble for Manafort. and seriously deeper shit for Trump.

Lyovochkin is already implicated by federal prosecutors investigating foreign money going into Trump's inauguration committee... more than likely, Akhmetov's

Let that sink in

Serhiy Lyovochkin, Rinat Akhmetov, Igor Krutoy

And if Krutoy's name pops up and I believe it will.. Ivanka is FUCKED. look that one up.

[crockett]

For the dumb moron onwebcam who keeps claiming "Ukraine", "Ukraine".. The guys Manafort worked with were pro Russian. They were part of the group trying to push for Russia to overthrow the Ukraine govt..


Of course onwebcam ignores this because it doesn't fit his lying agenda..

[BaldBastard]

Originally Posted by crockett

For the dumb moron onwebcam who keeps claiming "Ukraine", "Ukraine".. The guys Manafort worked with were pro Russian. They were part of the group trying to push for Russia to overthrow the Ukraine govt..

Of course onwebcam ignores this because it doesn't fit his lying agenda..

Its better than that ;) Manafort's main job was to get Republicans to take a softer stance and Pro Russian activity in the Ukraine and the main way that was done.. funnelling money to them

It's all coming from Russia.. first they fucked Ukraine and then turned the same spam machine on the USA. It wasn't done to help Trump so much.. but fuck the USA.

[bronco67]

Originally Posted by crockett

For the dumb moron onwebcam who keeps claiming "Ukraine", "Ukraine".. The guys Manafort worked with were pro Russian. They were part of the group trying to push for Russia to overthrow the Ukraine govt..


Of course onwebcam ignores this because it doesn't fit his lying agenda..

Yeah...he conveniently leaves that out.

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by crockett

For the dumb moron onwebcam who keeps claiming "Ukraine", "Ukraine".. The guys Manafort worked with were pro Russian. They were part of the group trying to push for Russia to overthrow the Ukraine govt..


Of course onwebcam ignores this because it doesn't fit his lying agenda..

Onwebcam (the Russian pretending to be an American in Tennessee) said before that Ukrainians are basically Russians because half of Ukrainians are from Russia.

Now he tries to separate them. Interesting

[onwebcam]

Originally Posted by MrBaldBastard

What's not getting through is this is more trouble for Manafort. and seriously deeper shit for Trump.

Lyovochkin is already implicated by federal prosecutors investigating foreign money going into Trump's inauguration committee... more than likely, Akhmetov's

Let that sink in

Serhiy Lyovochkin, Rinat Akhmetov, Igor Krutoy

And if Krutoy's name pops up and I believe it will.. Ivanka is FUCKED. look that one up.

Edited.. Corrected by none other than Bladewire.. The rest still stands..

Radio Free Europe was all mixed up in "Ukrainian's interfering in the election" via the Chalupa's https://www.rferl.org/author/18856.html


"Only a handful of people knew that NCFE was actually the public face of an innovative "psychological warfare" project undertaken by the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA). That operation – which soon gave rise to Radio Free Europe – would become one of the longest running and successful covert action campaigns ever mounted by the United States."
https://www.cia.gov/news-information...look-back.html



Victoria Nuland, Alexandra Chalupa, Ukrainian Ties & the Steele Dossier
https://themarketswork.com/2018/03/0...teele-dossier/


Hillary Clinton's Ukrainian connection a question worth exploring
https://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-bl...question-worth


Did Ukraine try to interfere in the 2016 election on Clinton's behalf?
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/did-ukr...2016-election/

It was all about UKRAINE....


Manafort's job was to push a Pro-Russia candidate..... His PARTNERS in this were the Podesta's running Ops for Obama/Hillary because Soros had BIG MONEY riding on a peace deal... Ukraine was to become a nuclear power center... >> Uranium... >> Uranium 1 deal..

[Busty2]

Originally Posted by AdultKing

OP could have posted this to anywhere else, but posts it here just to fuck up an adult industry forum, well done OP

Thanks for the bump ?

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by onwebcam

Lyovochkin is/was co-owner

This shows you the extent of this alt-right hate fake nic trolls mental illness.

[onwebcam]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

This shows you the extent of this alt-right hate fake nic trolls mental illness.

Actually you're right.. He co-owns Inter TV..

[NoWhErE]

Originally Posted by Acepimp

That's because it's FAKE NEWS, Crockette. It's false, a lie, untrue, Democrat propaganda. The fake new York times had to issue a correction and admit they were wrong. Is any of this getting thru??

You forgot to post your usual maga.blogspot.com sources to backup your arguments

[NoWhErE]

Originally Posted by onwebcam

Totally ignored Ukraine, Ukraine. Ukraine........... Correction I see..

Finding Help | Mental Health America .

[BaldBastard]

Originally Posted by onwebcam

Lyovochkin is/was co-owner of Radio Free Europe..



Co-owned with the CIA/US Gov

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio_.../Radio_Liberty


"Only a handful of people knew that NCFE was actually the public face of an innovative "psychological warfare" project undertaken by the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA). That operation – which soon gave rise to Radio Free Europe – would become one of the longest running and successful covert action campaigns ever mounted by the United States."
https://www.cia.gov/news-information...look-back.html



Ukrainians do not like him because he's very pro-Russia (another good reason would likely be because he's in business with the CIA)

In fact they stormed his house just last year
https://www.weeklytimesnow.com.au/ne...243897a29b88a1

Radio Free Europe was all mixed up in "Ukrainian's interfering in the election" via the Chalupa's https://www.rferl.org/author/18856.html

Victoria Nuland, Alexandra Chalupa, Ukrainian Ties & the Steele Dossier
https://themarketswork.com/2018/03/0...teele-dossier/


Hillary Clinton's Ukrainian connection a question worth exploring
https://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-bl...question-worth


Did Ukraine try to interfere in the 2016 election on Clinton's behalf?
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/did-ukr...2016-election/

It was all about UKRAINE....


Manafort's job was to push a Pro-Russia candidate..... His PARTNERS in this were the Podesta's running Ops for Obama/Hillary because Soros had BIG MONEY riding on a peace deal... Ukraine was to become a nuclear power center... >> Uranium... >> Uranium 1 deal..

I don't' believe most American's would give two fucks what went on in the Ukraine or could find it on a map. Americans might be concerned that Russian money was pouring into the Republican party and the NRA and that was facilitated via Manafort

And can I correct you when you say.. "It was all about the Ukraine" cos it was all about " Russia trying to gain influence in the Ukraine"

For every 1 cent Soros invested Murdoch invested $1000 and is still doing it to this day right before your clucked eyes.

[Rochard]

Trump today said on camera that he had no idea Manafort was giving polling data to Russians. Sounds familiar... Like when he said he didn't know about payments to Stormy Daniels. Right up until we heard a recording of him ordering the payment.

CNN right now is breaking that Mueller is talking to a Russian campaign pollster. For the love of god, why would Mueller be talking to a Russian pollster? Why would a Russian pollster have anything to do with an American election?

Keep in mind we don't know one percent of Mueller has uncovered.

This administration will go down in flames.

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by Rochard

Why would Trump's campaign manager being sharing polling information with the Russians? That is collusion. Period.

on trumps part ONLY if trump knew
why does anybody do anything - 'the dick'

[J. Falcon]

Originally Posted by TheSquealer

This is a clear example of how Trump supporters don't have the slightest idea of what this investigation is about. Just pure fucking ignorance.

Nobody is talking about "rigging" the election, you fucking asshat. The crime Trump will eventually be charged with is "conspiracy to defraud the United States government."