Tech TubeAce Plugin Owners

[AdultKing]

If you use the TubeAce Wordpress Plugin and would be interested in an open source publicly maintained version of the plugin then please post in this thread.

If there's enough interest I'll get my coding team to clean up the source and release it as a hard fork which will be freely available to anyone on GitHub along with the original source so as to comply with the GPL.

What this means is that you wont need to pay for the plugin and you will be able to contribute to future development and access the full source for free. The hard fork will also be available directly from Wordpress as a Wordpress plugin via https://wordpress.org/plugins/ and the Plugins section of Wordpress.

I'll only be able to put resources into it if there's sufficient interest, so please post below if interested. Also please post below if you're interested in becoming involved in future development.

[GAMEFINEST]

Not sure if TubeAce would be ok with it

[AdultKing]

Originally Posted by GAMEFINEST

Not sure if TubeAce would be ok with it

He's released it under the GPL, that was his choice. It's free software already.

[AdultKing]

Just an update. I've got TubeAce working with the licensing component removed.

Currently working on the code in a private GitHub repo but expect to make that public soon.

Does anyone using TubeAce have any specific problems they need addressing? Bugs? Operational Problems? Importing Problems?

Also, perhaps some people could suggest a new name for this hard fork - don't really want to call it TubeAce Free

[Tube Ace]

You will regret this. I promise.

[AdultKing]

Originally Posted by Tube Ace

You will regret this. I promise.

Are you saying this is not open source software released under the GPL?

If so, say that now and clarify your position.

[bigPunk]

I’m not sure people will use this low quality plugin even if it’s for free.

[AdultKing]

Originally Posted by bigPunk

I’m not sure people will use this low quality plugin even if it’s for free.

Well it might not become available given the author just made a threat, maybe TubeAce wants to clarify the GPL status of this software.

However if it does become available it will be improved. I have already removed a security hole in the plugin.

According to TubeAce himself in his release docs

Tube Ace is distributed under the terms of the GNU GPL

Now by making a threat, he seems to be reneging on this.

A clarification would be nice.

[Tube Ace]

Are you aware of how many premium / commercial WordPress themes and plugins are released under GPL?

[AdultKing]

Originally Posted by Tube Ace

Are you aware of how many premium / commercial WordPress themes and plugins are released under GPL?

Yes and a number of them have legally been forked, what's your point? GPL is free software,

1. You may copy and distribute verbatim copies of the Program's source code as you receive it, in any medium, provided that you conspicuously and appropriately publish on each copy an appropriate copyright notice and disclaimer of warranty; keep intact all the notices that refer to this License and to the absence of any warranty; and give any other recipients of the Program a copy of this License along with the Program.

You may charge a fee for the physical act of transferring a copy, and you may at your option offer warranty protection in exchange for a fee.

2. You may modify your copy or copies of the Program or any portion of it, thus forming a work based on the Program, and copy and distribute such modifications or work under the terms of Section 1 above, provided that you also meet all of these conditions:

a) You must cause the modified files to carry prominent notices stating that you changed the files and the date of any change.
b) You must cause any work that you distribute or publish, that in whole or in part contains or is derived from the Program or any part thereof, to be licensed as a whole at no charge to all third parties under the terms of this License.
c) If the modified program normally reads commands interactively when run, you must cause it, when started running for such interactive use in the most ordinary way, to print or display an announcement including an appropriate copyright notice and a notice that there is no warranty (or else, saying that you provide a warranty) and that users may redistribute the program under these conditions, and telling the user how to view a copy of this License. (Exception: if the Program itself is interactive but does not normally print such an announcement, your work based on the Program is not required to print an announcement.)

These requirements apply to the modified work as a whole. If identifiable sections of that work are not derived from the Program, and can be reasonably considered independent and separate works in themselves, then this License, and its terms, do not apply to those sections when you distribute them as separate works. But when you distribute the same sections as part of a whole which is a work based on the Program, the distribution of the whole must be on the terms of this License, whose permissions for other licensees extend to the entire whole, and thus to each and every part regardless of who wrote it.

Thus, it is not the intent of this section to claim rights or contest your rights to work written entirely by you; rather, the intent is to exercise the right to control the distribution of derivative or collective works based on the Program.

Read the license text, obviously if it's GPL v2 then anyone is free to modify and distribute the code providing the conditions for doing so are met.

You have already released the code as GPL v2, you can't put that genie back into the bottle. You have trademark protection which is why the new script will not be called Tube Ace, it will be called something else. It also won't infringe on your other rights. You're protected against use of the brand Tube Ace, you're protected from the use of your graphics and so forth, but your license is clear on both the theme and the plugin, they're free software, you can't now cry foul and undo that.

[Tube Ace]

Originally Posted by AdultKing

I have already removed a security hole in the plugin

Provide proof.

[AdultKing]

Originally Posted by Tube Ace

Provide proof.

You'll be able to see it when you compare your source to the modified source of the fork that is released.

By the way I've fixed this problem also https://gfy.com/22399398-post1.html

[Tube Ace]

You are full of shit

I am receiving lots of interesting information about you, Robert.

[AdultKing]

Originally Posted by Tube Ace

You are full of shit

I am receiving lots of interesting information about you, Robert.

Did you release the code as GPLv2 or not?

[Tube Ace]

Originally Posted by bigPunk

I’m not sure people will use this low quality plugin even if it’s for free.

What exactly makes it a "low quality plugin" as you say? Have you used the new version? Many customers have told me it's the best WordPress plugin they have ever used.

[AdultKing]

Originally Posted by Tube Ace

What exactly makes it a "low quality plugin" as you say? Have you used the new version? Many customers have told me it's the best WordPress plugin they have ever used.

You don't think the theme could use some work?

[brassmonkey]

jeezus op contact chris directly

[AdultKing]

Originally Posted by brassmonkey

jeezus op contact chris directly

I have, he's not wanting to discuss things.

[Klen]

Originally Posted by Tube Ace

Are you aware of how many premium / commercial WordPress themes and plugins are released under GPL?

Here is good example of commercial GPL ; https://stackoverflow.com/questions/...-centos-exists

[AdultKing]

Originally Posted by KlenTelaris

Here is good example of commercial GPL ; https://stackoverflow.com/questions/...-centos-exists

This is a well researched article on GPL as it applies to Wordpress Plugins and Themes released with a GPL license.

https://freemius.com/blog/selling-wo...s-plugins-gpl/

Before anyone chimes in to call me an asshole, I didn't release the plugin as free software, the author did, a long time ago. I can't be responsible for what other people do. I am not yet fully decided whether to go ahead or just leave this code be - but the GPL is pretty clear, anything released under the GPL may be modified and redistributed, free or for a fee, providing the original author is acknowledged, the license remains the same and the original code is provided by those redistributing.

[just a punk]

Originally Posted by AdultKing

The hard fork will also be available directly from Wordpress as a Wordpress plugin via https://wordpress.org/plugins/ and the Plugins section of Wordpress.

This will never happen. WordPress no longer accepts any plugins that syndicate content from other sources (e.g. RSS feeds, tubes etc).

While the practice of content aggregation from multiple sites into one combined site is not inherently a bad thing, historically it has been misused for things such as spam blogs and the like. For example, a site set up to essentially "steal" content from multiple sources, republishing it without credit or attribution, and then used to host ads or possibly even malware. Then shady SEO practices are used to make the site rank above the original sources in search results.

These types of practices have long caused problems, and so WordPress.org has chosen to not host content aggregators or other such devices (for example, "content spinners") in the WordPress.org plugins directory.

The plugin directory is not just a listing service, but a hosting service. We provide free bandwidth, storage, support forums, reviews, and other sorts of services to plugin authors. However, we choose to do so on our terms, and at present, these types of things are not welcome. This is not a judgment on the quality of your plugin, nor of your intentions in creating it. A tool can be used for many different things, some legal, some not.

However, for these particular types of plugins, we have found that the misuses of it often outweigh the good uses of it, and so we choose not to host them. You're welcome to host the plugin on your own site, using your own bandwidth instead.

...

Our current view is that we're not approving any new content aggregator tools. This may or may not change in the future.

Otto, WordPress.org

[Markul]

Bump because THIS is pure comedy.

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by Tube Ace

I am receiving lots of interesting information about you, Robert.

Originally Posted by Tube Ace

You will regret this. I promise.

What the fuck is wrong with you?

Who the fuck do you think you are threatening people that are following the law and improving a free GPL plugin?

You should be grateful.

I have a feeling you are not the original creator of that base code and you didn't attribute to the original creator(s) per GPL guidelines because you wanted to profit off their work and not let people know where they could get it for free

[Tube Ace]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

What the fuck is wrong with you?

Who the fuck do you think you are threatening people that are following the law and improving a free GPL plugin?

You should be grateful.

I have a feeling you are not the original creator of that base code and you didn't attribute to the original creator(s) per GPL guidelines because you wanted to profit off their work and not let people know where they could get it for free

Where exactly did I threaten anybody? I am pointing out that he is simply wasting his time. AdultKing is a mentally unstable clown who does nothing of value in this industry. If I am not the creator, then who do you think is?

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by Tube Ace

Where exactly did I threaten anybody?

Originally Posted by Tube Ace

You will regret this. I promise.

Originally Posted by Tube Ace

I am receiving lots of interesting information about you, Robert.

Originally Posted by Tube Ace

If I am not the creator, then who do you think is?

I haven't looked at the Tube Ace code.

Are you saying you personally created all the Tube Ace code? I find that hard to believe considering it's GPL.

I have no dog in this fight other than admonishing you for trying to quash creativity & growth on freely public GPL source code.

You could change your business model and have people pay a fee for customization, support, bug fixes & modification of that code and embrace Adult Kings interest in improving the code.

[Tube Ace]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

I haven't looked at the Tube Ace code.

Are you saying you personally created all the Tube Ace code? I find that hard to believe considering it's GPL.

I have no dog in this fight other than admonishing you for trying to quash creativity & growth on freely public GPL source code.

You could change your business model and have people pay a fee for customization, support, bug fixes & modification of that code and embrace Adult Kings interest in improving the code.

Yes, I did personally create all the code except for the Easy Digital Downloads classes which handle the version updates... and what exactly is wrong with the code now? Oh that's right, you haven't looked at it and AdultKing has not proven anything or done anything he said he would.

[EddyTheDog]

Originally Posted by Tube Ace

If I am not the creator, then who do you think is?

The problem is if you work with a GPL script like WP you have to abide by the rules - You chose WP when you could have chosen to work with a commercial script or started from scratch...

If you look at the big plug-in providers they all are in the same position - A lot of them do everything thing can to make it difficult to use their software without some cash but at the end of the day they are all GPL - It's the same with themes.....

[Tube Ace]

This is an example of why this board is dying. All these trolls make false statements and claims and are not held to any accountability. People like myself who are actually doing work and building things do not have time to waste on such BS and fake drama. What a bunch of losers.

Shouldn't you guys be posting goatsee pictures or something?

[Tube Ace]

Originally Posted by EddyTheDog

The problem is if you work with a GPL script like WP you have to abide by the rules - You chose WP when you could have chosen to work with a commercial script or started from scratch...

If you look at the big plug-in providers they all are in the same position - A lot of them do everything thing can to make it difficult to use their software without some cash but at the end of the day they are all GPL - It's the same with themes.....

I know this already Eddy, thank you.

[Brian mike]

Originally Posted by Tube Ace

This is an example of why this board is dying. All these trolls make false statements and claims and are not held to any accountability. People like myself who are actually doing work and building things do not have time to waste on such BS and fake drama. What a bunch of losers.

Shouldn't you guys be posting goatsee pictures or something?

Glad i never bought your tube ace script/plug in geeez.... Glad im with WP-script...

Something i don't like is when someone like you taking money while offering a nice package and change the rules of the package after sales completed LOL.
Someone did that in the cam field not long ago LOL. I have flushed his shit where it belong " Toilet " and use robotscript now.

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by Tube Ace

This is an example of why this board is dying. All these trolls make false statements and claims and are not held to any accountability.

What false statements & claims have been made in this thread?

Please quote them.

[Tube Ace]

AdultKing claimed he found a security hole, and won't provide proof.

[AdultKing]

Originally Posted by CyberSEO

This will never happen. WordPress no longer accepts any plugins that syndicate content from other sources (e.g. RSS feeds, tubes etc).

Yeah you're absolutely right it seems but it has been done, others have modularised the software.They publish the core to WP and then provide the modules on their own hosting. I've seen other plugins do this, I am not sure if they are flying under the wire or not though.

[Colmike9]

Here for the fun

[AdultKing]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

What the fuck is wrong with you?

Who the fuck do you think you are threatening people that are following the law and improving a free GPL plugin?

You should be grateful.

I have a feeling you are not the original creator of that base code and you didn't attribute to the original creator(s) per GPL guidelines because you wanted to profit off their work and not let people know where they could get it for free

I believe he is the author, I don't see any indication he isn't BUT he fucked people over. First he sold a script to people for hundreds that he abandoned and probably knew he was going to abandon when he made some of those sales. Secondly he released the script as a WP Plugin but kept changing the rules and terms such as how many copies you could run etc.

Originally Posted by Tube Ace

Where exactly did I threaten anybody? I am pointing out that he is simply wasting his time. AdultKing is a mentally unstable clown who does nothing of value in this industry. If I am not the creator, then who do you think is?

Nothing of value? You really don't know anything about what I have done for this industry do you? There are people I help every single week, quietly and in the background. I've also kept a few abandoned scripts alive so people aren't left out in the cold and charged nothing for that, they're all free.

Originally Posted by Bladewire

I haven't looked at the Tube Ace code.

Are you saying you personally created all the Tube Ace code? I find that hard to believe considering it's GPL.

I have no dog in this fight other than admonishing you for trying to quash creativity & growth on freely public GPL source code.

You could change your business model and have people pay a fee for customization, support, bug fixes & modification of that code and embrace Adult Kings interest in improving the code.

As I said I believe he wrote the code. He also chose to release it as GPL. I have great respect for the authors of software on this forum. CyberSEO creates a great product that he supports and stands behind, WP-Script do the same. Both of those are products for Wordpress and they have been consistent with their clients. They maintain their code properly. They support their users.

Originally Posted by Tube Ace

Yes, I did personally create all the code except for the Easy Digital Downloads classes which handle the version updates... and what exactly is wrong with the code now? Oh that's right, you haven't looked at it and AdultKing has not proven anything or done anything he said he would.

I tried to have a rational discussion with you on ICQ, which you dismissed out of hand.

Originally Posted by EddyTheDog

The problem is if you work with a GPL script like WP you have to abide by the rules - You chose WP when you could have chosen to work with a commercial script or started from scratch...

If you look at the big plug-in providers they all are in the same position - A lot of them do everything thing can to make it difficult to use their software without some cash but at the end of the day they are all GPL - It's the same with themes.....

He had a commercial script, myself and others paid him at least $200 for it and he abandoned it. Then he moved to Wordpress. He also chose to release the plugin and theme under the GPL. Then he chose to abandon people who bought the plugin by not providing updates or by changing the terms upon which they purchased the plugin.

Originally Posted by Tube Ace

This is an example of why this board is dying. All these trolls make false statements and claims and are not held to any accountability. People like myself who are actually doing work and building things do not have time to waste on such BS and fake drama. What a bunch of losers.

Rather than be constructive you chose the destructive path, blaming everyone else for not jumping through hoops to get updates to your plugin. Look at this thread:

https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-p...humbnails.html

Two of us complained you had ignored our requests for updates. You told both of us it was our fault. You blamed junk mail folders, which turned out to be crap. You deflected and you obfuscated. There are other threads on this forum where people complain about you abandoning them after paying you money.

Originally Posted by Brian mike

Glad i never bought your tube ace script/plug in geeez.... Glad im with WP-script...

Something i don't like is when someone like you taking money while offering a nice package and change the rules of the package after sales completed LOL.
Someone did that in the cam field not long ago LOL. I have flushed his shit where it belong " Toilet " and use robotscript now.

Most professional software authors are upfront about their system of charging people. Some choose to offer free updates within each major dot point of versions. Some choose to offer free lifetime updates. Some choose to require payment for every update. People then know where they stand.

In the case of Tube Ace he offered something and then pulled the rug out from under people. If this was commercial closed source software then nobody could do anything, it would be his code and it would be unlawful to re-distribute it. However this is not closed source, it's open source under the GPL license and he declares that in the script files and docs.

[wankawonk]

crappy script anyway tbh, not worth all this fuss

[Tube Ace]

The Tube Ace standalone version was sold and supported for 5 years starting in 2008. The code is unencrypted and the buyers can continue using it to this day. The WordPress version which is a separate product than the standalone version, was released in 2013 of which I still provide updates to this day. I did not "pull the rug" from anyone as you claim. There were a few users on GFY out of thousands of customers over 10 years which had an issue, which have been resolved.

To the best of my knowledge, anyone who requested an update has been sent one. I did not blame anyone for the emails going to a spam folder. I simply said it was a possiblity. That is beyond my control, unfortunately. Last year, I moved the WordPress plugin to Easy Digital Downloads which handles the version updates automatically so this will no longer be an issue.

You claimed to have found a "security hole", which you have not provided proof of. I demand you post it now.

[Tube Ace]

Originally Posted by wankawonk

crappy script anyway tbh, not worth all this fuss

What EXACTLY is crappy about it? Does it not work for you? Because I am unaware of ANY bugs in the current version. Explain. State your case.

[Tube Ace]

AdultKing, you are the one ripping people off for $800 https://gfy.com/20549628-post42.html

[AdultKing]

Originally Posted by Tube Ace

The Tube Ace standalone version was sold and supported for 5 years starting in 2008. The code is unencrypted and the buyers can continue using it to this day. The WordPress version which is a separate product than the standalone version, was released in 2013 of which I still provide updates to this day. I did not "pull the rug" from anyone as you claim.

You killed the script in 2013 and you sold it to people in 2013. That's pulling the rug.

To the best of my knowledge, anyone who requested an update has been sent one. I did not blame anyone for the emails going to a spam folder. I simply said it was a possiblity. That is beyond my control, unfortunately. Last year, I moved the WordPress plugin to Easy Digital Downloads which handles the version updates automatically so this will no longer be an issue.

Do you want me to ask my assistant to spend the afternoon going through all of the threads about your plugin and quote all of the people who have had issues?

You claimed to have found a "security hole", which you have not provided proof of. I demand you post it now.

You are a whiny sod aren't you? You dare to make demands?

Originally Posted by Tube Ace

AdultKing, you are the one ripping people off for $800 https://gfy.com/20549628-post42.html

If you read the thread, you would see Oracle Porn was talking about JMB Software, the author of TGPX. So you just fucked up.

https://gfy.com/20578819-post55.html

TGPX was authored by JMB Software, when he left the business he released all his code as open source, I have maintained some of that code - for free. I have no connection to JMB Software other than having been a customer.

[Tube Ace]

AdultKing, looks like you also bought a new car around the time you were accepting payments to fight the file lockers.



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https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-p...ckers-116.html

[AdultKing]

Originally Posted by Tube Ace

AdultKing, looks like you also bought a new car around the time you were accepting payments to fight the file lockers.

I buy a new car every five years or so. I don't see your point.

[Tube Ace]

Post proof of this alleged "security hole" you found, Robert. I thought so...

[Tube Ace]

Originally Posted by AdultKing

You killed the script in 2013 and you sold it to people in 2013. That's pulling the rug.

I stopped selling it in 2013, it can still be used.

Post proof of the security hole you found last night. I'm waiting...

[Colmike9]

I think you used to be able to do an injection with SQL, but I think that was fixed years ago.
Not sure if that matters tho..

[Tube Ace]

Originally Posted by Colmike7

I think you used to be able to do an injection with SQL, but I think that was fixed years ago.
Not sure if that matters tho..

In the standalone version, in 2012. Which was fixed promptly.

[Tube Ace]

Come on AdultKing in your own words:

Originally Posted by AdultKing

I am not a scammer. Prove that I am a scammer, you know the rules. You can't just go making accusations without some proof.

https://m.gfy.com/20491041-post423.html

[Tube Ace]

Originally Posted by AdultKing

I buy a new car every five years or so. I don't see your point.

Why did you just delete your fuelly account after I posted that?



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[magneto664]

Looks like a good fight!

[Tube Ace]

Originally Posted by candyflip

If it isn't obvious to you guys yet that AdultKing has just been fleecing people to pay his own bills, you're an idiot.

https://m.gfy.com/20339316-post32.html

Interesting...