Do you believe in the death penalty?

[mce]

Does taking the life of a person who took another person's life really 'fix' anything?

Does knowing that you might possibly be put to death for a crime you're planning really deter you? What about crimes of passion?

What do you guys think?

[Acepimp]

I think it costs around $40,000 per year to keep one person in prison. If someone is absolutely guilty of murder, like Jeffery Dahmer for example, then yes, eliminate that fool from our world and save the taxpayers a ton of cash.

[Bladewire]

A bullet to head. Done

This BS of no death penalty and people rotting in jail until they die is crap. Endless appeals that take decades is a waste.

People fuck up and pay the price with the end of their life. This happens tens and thousands of times every day around the world. Fall off a cliff. Die. Don't look crossing the road get hit by a truck. Die. Get angry at your GF and kill her. You die. The list goes on

[247mg]

Yes! When some one kiled your loved one then you will feel the pain and want the culprit to be hanged or killed.

[King Mark]

I'm personally on the fence.

[kane]

I am opposed to the death penalty. Not because of I think we shouldn't be putting people to death but because of the cost associated. On average, it cost more to put someone to death than it does to keep them locked up for life. Not to mention all the resources we use to carry out all the legally required steps to go through with it. In the end, it doesn't change anything. People who are going to commit capital crimes are still going to. We should just save the money and resources and lock these people up for life.

[crockett]

I'm not necessarily against the death penalty but I dont trust our current justice system to administer it. It's been shown time and time again, that corruption at the police level can very easily put people behind bars and even get them executed.

Due to this I'm only ok with it, if the person confesses to the crime and it's not some cohersed confession.

[pimpmaster9000]

Only if there is overwhelming evidence like a video or they found 10 bodies in his back yard...

[gorillaz_]

Originally Posted by mce

Does taking the life of a person who took another person's life really 'fix' anything?

mass killing mentally ill people fix

[mce]

Originally Posted by kane

I am opposed to the death penalty. Not because of I think we shouldn't be putting people to death but because of the cost associated. On average, it cost more to put someone to death than it does to keep them locked up for life. Not to mention all the resources we use to carry out all the legally required steps to go through with it. In the end, it doesn't change anything. People who are going to commit capital crimes are still going to. We should just save the money and resources and lock these people up for life.

But isn't the cost due to the APPEALS process? What if it was streamlined to ONE appeal within 6 months of the defendant's sentencing?

[Rochard]

I used to believe in the death penalty. Then I read an article about how someone's daughter was killed, and the parents thought the killer wasn't going to be punished. Instead, they were just going to put him "to sleep". The parents wanted to see the killer suffer in prison for the next fifty to sixty years.

Killing someone isn't punishing them. Punishing someone is when you put them in a prison cell for decades.

[kane]

Originally Posted by mce

But isn't the cost due to the APPEALS process? What if it was streamlined to ONE appeal within 6 months of the defendant's sentencing?

The cost is in the appeals process. My worry about removing that process is that we will kill innocent people.

Personally, I think if there is 100% irrefutable proof that the person did the crime, then we should have some kind of streamlined system so we can move those along fairly quickly. If it is not 100% certain that they did it, then we need the appeals process in place.

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by crockett

Due to this I'm only ok with it, if the person confesses to the crime and it's not some cohersed confession.

I'm with you on that.

To clarify, I'm for a quick gunshot to the head death penalty on obvious cases of murder, this also includes child molestors of very young children and severe child abusers (long term starvation, long term physical abuse, abuse that ends in brain damage and/or permanent disability of the child). Fuck them all

[ilnjscb]

Hell to the yes

[SilentKnight]

Originally Posted by Rochard

Killing someone isn't punishing them. Punishing someone is when you put them in a prison cell for decades.

Google "Karla Homolka" and tell me where the justice and punishment was with her.

To me, the punishment is given to the taxpayers - we pay to house, feed, medical...and in many cases bankroll their college "upgrade" expenses.

I've always supported capital punishment. Canada should bring back the noose. Cheap and economical. Don't care if it's a deterrent - it guarantees they won't re-offend when they're turned loose on the street by a panty-waist parole board.

Capital punishment in cases where their guilt is proven beyond a shadow of a doubt.

[Mr Pheer]

The death penalty is a crime deterrent and has saved lives.

For instance, there are people still alive today simply because I grew up in Texas and they hand out the death penalty pretty easily there.

[just a punk]

Originally Posted by mce

Does taking the life of a person who took another person's life really 'fix' anything?

Does knowing that you might possibly be put to death for a crime you're planning really deter you? What about crimes of passion?

What do you guys think?

I duno. We have no death penalty in Russia.

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by CyberSISSY

I duno. We have no death penalty in Russia.

literally driving on the road in Russia is a death penalty

[AdultKing]

I'm opposed to the death penalty for two reasons.

Violent crime, rapes, murders, aggravated violence, terrorism and so forth occurs in countries without the death penalty, murders with firearms happen less in most western countries that don't have the death penalty compared to the United States. As a deterrent to committing crime the death penalty doesn't work.

The second reason is that the judicial system gets things wrong. There are cut and dried cases where it's obvious that the person charged with a crime is guilty without any room for doubt (think Charles Manson) however in most cases there are protracted investigations that lead to a brief of evidence and that evidence is all that a decision of guilt can be made upon in court. There have been enough cases in the US legal system where convictions have been overturned (sometimes after decades) to consider that the risk of putting an innocent person to death is too much of a possibility.

TLDR: Death penalty doesn't add to deterrence. Some people found guilty have their convictions overturned because the legal system got it wrong.

[kane]

Originally Posted by Mr Pheer

The death penalty is a crime deterrent and has saved lives.

For instance, there are people still alive today simply because I grew up in Texas and they hand out the death penalty pretty easily there.

It isn't a deterrent. Check this out. The yellow highlighted states are the ones without the death penalty. The murder rate in Texas is right about the middle of the list, 13 of the 20 states with the lowest murder rates don't have the death penalty.

[Mr Pheer]

Originally Posted by kane

It isn't a deterrent. Check this out. The yellow highlighted states are the ones without the death penalty. The murder rate in Texas is right about the middle of the list, 13 of the 20 states with the lowest murder rates don't have the death penalty.

It IS a deterrent. It's deterred me a few times.

[kane]

Originally Posted by Mr Pheer

It IS a deterrent. It's deterred me a few times.

Fair enough.

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by SilentKnight

Google "Karla Homolka" and tell me where the justice and punishment was with her.

To me, the punishment is given to the taxpayers - we pay to house, feed, medical...and in many cases bankroll their college "upgrade" expenses.

I've always supported capital punishment. Canada should bring back the noose. Cheap and economical. Don't care if it's a deterrent - it guarantees they won't re-offend when they're turned loose on the street by a panty-waist parole board.

Capital punishment in cases where their guilt is proven beyond a shadow of a doubt.

It costs more to put someone to death than it does to keep them in prison.

Do the math... Don't think to yourself "We execute him (her) and there is no cost to the government". Keep in mind that someone on death row spends on average 15 years in prison, it's more expensive to house them in death row, and the entire time they are there it costs the government millions in legal fees because there is lawsuit after lawsuit.

Fuck that. Put them in general lock up and let them live in fear for the rest of their lives. One way or another, they die in prison. One way it's quick and painless, and other way drags out for decades while they live like rats.

[TheSquealer]

If people can't all be equal in their defense, they shouldn't be subjected to being killed. Having more or less money and better or worse attorneys should neither stop nor cause someones death.

[kane]

Originally Posted by TheSquealer

If people can't all be equal in their defense, they shouldn't be subjected to being killed. Having more or less money and better or worse attorneys should neither stop nor cause someones death.

I saw a documentary a little while ago that followed three public defenders in Georgia for a year. The one thing I took away from that is to make sure to never get into any kind of serious trouble unless I have plenty of money for a good lawyer. The public defenders were supposed to be handling around 30 cases at a time and normally juggled 150+, in some cases then never even met their clients before they ended up in court with them. It was crazy.

[mce]

Originally Posted by Mr Pheer

It IS a deterrent. It's deterred me a few times.

I can definitely relate

[Matyko]

absolutely NOT

[baddog]

Kill Them All, let God sort them out.

Especially the BladeLiar ilk.

[Paul Markham]

When "Justice"is reliant on how much your lawyer costs or the colour of your skin. I would say the Death Penalty isn't the answer. Rotting away in prison is the answer.

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by Acepimp

I think it costs around $40,000 per year to keep one person in prison. If someone is absolutely guilty of murder, like Jeffery Dahmer for example, then yes, eliminate that fool from our world and save the taxpayers a ton of cash.

Why not make him suffer for the rest of his life wasting away in Jail. In the UK we have lots of mass murderers wasting away.

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by FAGdog

Kill Them All, let God sort them out.

Especially the BladeLiar ilk.

Fagdog posting drunk again last night

[just a punk]

Originally Posted by AIDSwire

literally driving on the road in Russia is a death penalty

Our roads are real shit - that's true, but still we have no death penalty as a punishment here and our cops don't shoot at civilians. One cop has committed a mass shooting in 2009. He has killed 2 and wounded 7 civilians. After that he's got a life in prison. Now tell me how many civilians are being shot dead in your country every year and what kind of punishment is usually applied to these mad cops?

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by CyberSEO

Our roads are real shit - that's true, but still we have no death penalty punishment here and our cops don't shoot at civilians. One cop has committed a mass shooting in 2009. He has killed 2 and wounded 7 civilians. After that he's got a life in prison. Now tell me how many civilians are being shot dead in your country every year and what kind of punishment was applied to these mad cops?

We shoot our crzy people & criminals, you let them run wild, that is one of the differences between Russia and America.

In all seriousness, one of my favorite YouTube channels I subscribe to is called Police Activity.

I get instant updates of police shooting videos daily and the video is usually up close from the cops body cam! I bet you don't use those in Russia.