China-US feud threatens Canada as Huawei executive due in court

[Sarn]

Meng Wanzhou, Huawei’s global chief financial officer, will appear at a bail hearing on Friday morning, following her arrest last Saturday

“President Xi refers to these companies as national champions. These are flag-carrying companies who are absolutely the face of China that Xi wants to be showing,” said Stephanie Carvin, a professor of international relations at Carlton University. “And if China is mad at Canada – and it sure looks like it is – there is the risk of retaliation.”

In recent years, China has quickly become one of Canada’s largest trading partners, a relationship that has becoming increasingly important as Canada navigates a mercurial relationship with the US. But the recent spat is likely to put the brakes on a free trade agreement between the two countries.

“When there is a crisis in the relationship – and there is now – China simply goes silent, high-level visits are put off, exchanges don’t happen,” said David Mulroney, Canada’s former ambassador to China. “I think we’re going into a deep freeze for as many months as it takes to resolve itself.”

“When there is a crisis in the relationship – and there is now – China simply goes silent, high-level visits are put off, exchanges don’t happen,” said David Mulroney, Canada’s former ambassador to China. “I think we’re going into a deep freeze for as many months as it takes to resolve itself.”
https://www.theguardian.com/technolo...onse-relations

[Brian mike]

Canada Will Stick with the US on that one... Even if TRUMP not the Smartest one thats something I would not like to see happen; get her release on the demand of China, when the US ask/ requested her arrestation/ extradition.

[Brian mike]

Meng Wanzhou, chief financial officer and heir apparent to Chinese tech giant Huawei, will at least be spending the weekend in a Vancouver jail after a bail hearing on Friday.

Court was adjourned at about 4 p.m. local time with no decision made on bail, so the daughter of Huawei's founder will remain in custody. The hearing will resume at 1 p.m. on Monday.

The Crown prosecutor, who made the case that Meng be denied bail, argued that she is a “flight risk” with significant resources and no ties to Vancouver, per CTV.

https://abcnews.go.com/International...ry?id=59677366

[Sarn]

now will wait what China will be doing

[JuicyBunny]

She offered to tun over 7 passports. How many does she have? and for what purpose?

[celandina]

Originally Posted by JuicyBunny

She offered to tun over 7 passports. How many does she have? and for what purpose?

I only have two

One to go back home to Canada and the other one to come back to EU. That are the rules

[pimpmaster9000]

Originally Posted by JuicyBunny

She offered to tun over 7 passports. How many does she have? and for what purpose?

Golden visa passports are very convenient for business especially for somebody in her position...



I am betting a lot of US business men in china are shitting bricks right now...shitting bricks!

[Brian mike]

Originally Posted by crucifissio

I am betting a lot of US business men in china are shitting bricks right now...shitting bricks!

That goes both ways, Lots of China business men in USA , Canada, UK and many around the world right now. They dont want to go this way

[pimpmaster9000]

Originally Posted by Brian mike

That goes both ways, Lots of China business men in USA , Canada, UK and many around the world right now. They dont want to go this way

100 beatings over somebody elses ass hurt nothing at all...what the fuck do commie leaders in china care about chinamen in the USA?...its not like their media is going to report it...I bet lists are being made right now...

[Brian mike]

The B.C. government is suspending a trade mission to China due to an ongoing court case against a senior Huawei executive arrested earlier this month in Vancouver.

B.C.’s forestry trade mission to China is the latest casualty in the escalating dispute between China and Canada over the arrest of Meng Wanzhou, the chief financial officer of tech giant Huawei.

“The Province of British Columbia has suspended the China leg of its Asian forestry trade mission due to the international judicial process underway relating to a senior official at Huawei Technologies Co., Ltd.,” said Bruce Ralston, Minister of jobs, Trade and Technology in a statement issued on Sunday.

Wanzhou, the chief financial officer of the China-based Huawei Technologies, was arrested Dec. 1 at Vancouver International Airport while en route to Mexico and is being sought for extradition to the U.S. on allegations of fraud.

It’s alleged the Chinese tech giant used a subsidiary named Skycom to conduct business with an Iranian telecommunications company, a violation of U.S. sanctions against trade with Iran. Meng is accused of misrepresenting Huawei’s connection with Skycom to several banks involved in the case, leading to one bank clearing more than $100 million dollars worth of transactions.

The 2018 forestry trade mission led by Forest Minister Doug Donaldson included some 40 company executives, civil servants and Indigenous leaders in an full-court sales press to open new markets for the forestry industry.

This blow to B.C.’s efforts to bolster forestry trade with China is an escalation of the crisis, said Yves Tiberghien, UBC political science professor and Director Emeritus, Institute of Asian Research, who spoke to Postmedia from Japan.

“We are entering a rough patch in China-Canada relations,” said Tiberghien.

Ralston was not available to answer questions on Sunday, so it is still unknown who pulled the plug on the trade visit to China, but Tiberghien suggested the decision was most likely mutual.

“Any official meeting between China and Canada at this time would not be fruitful at the moment,” said Tiberghien.

“The media in China is furious and China is taking (the arrest of Meng Wanzhou) very badly. It’s like arresting Bill Gates or Mark Zuckerberg.”

Tiberghien added that “the cost to Canada could be very high.”

On Saturday the Chinese Foreign Ministry summoned the Canadian Ambassador to China John McCallum to express their displeasure with the arrest of Wanzhou. The diplomatic measures could be followed by more political and business sanctions.

In a worst-case-scenario, retaliation could include arrests of Canadians in China, said Tiberghien, although “China will be careful because they want to keep the moral high ground.”

Tiberghien said the timing of the arrest — just days after Donald Trump’s meeting with Xi Jinping at the G-20 summit, the secrecy of the warrant, and the targeting of a high-level executive — has contributed to the perception in China that the case is less about sanctions than it is about attacking the telecom giant Huawei.

Although Canada is following their bilateral legal co-operation process and extradition agreement with the U.S., “China sees this as a political case based on geopolitics, and Canada is caught in the middle,” said Tiberghien.

Meng, whose father is the founder of the company, returns to court on Monday to continue seeking bail. She was arrested using a provisional arrest warrant issued by a New York state judge in August.

A federal Justice Department lawyer had argued that Meng’s vast resources and lack of meaningful connection to Canada made her a flight risk, while Meng’s defence lawyer said she would do no such thing to prevent humiliation to her family.

The cancelled Chinese meetings will be rescheduled “at the earliest convenient moment,” according to Ralston’s statement.

https://vancouversun.com/news/politi...wei-fraud-case

[_Richard_]

Originally Posted by Brian mike

Meng, whose father is the founder of the company, returns to court on Monday to continue seeking bail. She was arrested using a provisional arrest warrant issued by a New York state judge in August.


https://vancouversun.com/news/politi...wei-fraud-case

it's odd, they were discussing some internal memo she released to her company from a few months ago about 'taking risks and accepting consequences'

break in at one of her houses: https://www.rt.com/news/446029-break...e-health-jail/

[celandina]

Here we go....

A former Canadian diplomat has been detained in China, two sources said on Tuesday, and his current employer, the International Crisis Group, said it was seeking his prompt and safe release.

Michael Kovrig's detention comes after police in Canada arrested the chief financial officer of China's Huawei Technologies Co Ltd on Dec. 1 at the request of U.S. authorities, a move that infuriated Beijing.

It was not immediately clear if the cases were related, but the arrest of Huawei CFO Meng Wanzhou in Vancouver has stoked fears of reprisals against the foreign business community in China.

[Brian mike]

Ex-Canadian diplomat Michael Kovrig detained in China

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/kov...sday-1.4940725

[Brian mike]

Meng Wanzhou must stay in B.C. and will pay for her own 24/7 surveillance

Huawei's chief financial officer will be released on $10 million bail — with five guarantors — as she awaits possible extradition to the United States on fraud charges, a B.C. Supreme Court justice has ruled.

Meng Wanzhou, 46, was granted bail after three days of hearings concluded on Tuesday afternoon.

In delivering his reasons for granting the bail, Justice William Ehrcke said $7 million of that bail payment must be made in cash.

Meng must also report to a bail supervisor, maintain good behaviour, live at a house owned by her husband, Liu Xiaozong, and stay in that house between the hours of 11 p.m. and 6 a.m.

She will not be allowed to leave the province of B.C.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/briti...uver-1.4940849

[Sarn]

Originally Posted by Brian mike

Ex-Canadian diplomat Michael Kovrig detained in China
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/kov...sday-1.4940725

Originally Posted by Brian mike

Meng Wanzhou must stay in B.C. and will pay for her own 24/7 surveillance
Huawei's chief financial officer will be released on $10 million bail — with five guarantors — as she awaits possible extradition to the United States on fraud charges, a B.C. Supreme Court justice has ruled.
...

Poor Michael Kovrig If Meng Wanzhou will be extradited in the USA he will stay in China jail.

[klinton]

[pimpmaster9000]

"China detained a former Canadian diplomat in Beijing in apparent retaliation for the Dec. 1 arrest of Meng Wanzhou, chief financial officer of Chinese telecommunications giant Huawei and daughter of the company's founder."

[Phoenix]

This company stole their shit from nortel. Then competed against them with that technology.
Industrial espionage

[Bladewire]

Trump should have had her extradited the day she was held in custody.

It's been 6 days and the extradition hasn't even started!

Trump just said in an interview that if trade talks get better with China he would intervene with her extradition.

That totally gives them cause in any court case to say that her arrest was politically motivated.

Another result of ineffective leadership in the White House.

[pimpmaster9000]

china is now detaining TWO canadians...well done for china...you can never go too easy on these supporters of US terror...anybody who supports terrorism should be detained

[_Richard_]

Originally Posted by celandina

Here we go....

two apparently: https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/china-...e8D9a4qzzGzRZM

[crockett]

Originally Posted by Sarn

Poor Michael Kovrig If Meng Wanzhou will be extradited in the USA he will stay in China jail.

yes, that's how dictatorships work.. You should be used to this kind of tactics in Russia.. China does this shit all the time, whenever they are trying to do some sort of hard deal with another country they will arrest their nationals and hold them s bargaining chips.. It usually stays out of the press but this is more high profile..

[pimpmaster9000]

Originally Posted by crockett

yes, that's how dictatorships work.. You should be used to this kind of tactics in Russia.. China does this shit all the time, whenever they are trying to do some sort of hard deal with another country they will arrest their nationals and hold them s bargaining chips.. It usually stays out of the press but this is more high profile..

25.000 bombs/year USA opens his mouth

[Sarn]

Originally Posted by crockett

yes, that's how dictatorships work.. You should be used to this kind of tactics in Russia.. China does this shit all the time, whenever they are trying to do some sort of hard deal with another country they will arrest their nationals and hold them s bargaining chips.. It usually stays out of the press but this is more high profile..

The USA arrest Russian girl a few days ago, I know how dictatorship work - reject in law one group of peoples.

[crockett]

Originally Posted by crucifissio

25.000 bombs/year USA opens his mouth

How many bombs you guys drop in Syria? How many terrorist you guys support every year with new ak's?

[pimpmaster9000]

oh look, mike "cocksucker" pompeo is outraged about the political arrest of 2 canadian terrorist supporters in retaliation to the political arrest of huawei exec over politics...."cocksucker" thinks politics should be kept out of this

more proof that americans are brainwashed to the point of brain damage

[Brian mike]

Officials not linking latest arrest to the recent diplomatic turbulence




A third Canadian has been taken into custody in China, according to Global Affairs Canada.

Canadian officials declined to provide any detail about who the individual is or why they are being detained, citing privacy concerns.

"Global Affairs Canada is aware of a Canadian citizen detained in China. Consular officials are providing assistance to the family," said spokesperson Maegan Graveline

A source who spoke on the condition of anonymity said Canadian officials found out about the detention on Tuesday by someone who knows the latest detainee — not by Chinese officials.

The latest detention, first reported by the National Post, comes amid growing tensions between Canada and China.


https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/can...hird-1.4951950

[Sarn]

China 3 : Canada 1

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by Sarn

China 3 : Canada 1

America 69 : Russia -5

[Sarn]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

America 69 : Russia -5

US pushed Canada under the bus

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by Sarn

US pushed Canada under the bus

Trump

Not U.S.A.

[Phoenix]

Originally Posted by Sarn

US pushed Canada under the bus

that company stole billions from nortel
thousands of people lost their jobs.

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by Phoenix

that company stole billions from nortel
thousands of people lost their jobs.

Today your master Trump just gave Syria to Putin & removed Russian sanctions. No doubt you're proud. Merry Christmas.

[ghjghj]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

Trump

Not U.S.A.

Not how that works idiot

[pimpmaster9000]

Originally Posted by Sarn

US pushed Canada under the bus

its what they get for being invader ass kissers...I am surprised they did not arrest a few americans...they can flash impose some bullshit sanctions on say brazil and be like "you are doing business with brazil" and lock them up

[Brian mike]

Originally Posted by Sarn

US pushed Canada under the bus

Feel like this but we will survive

Originally Posted by Brian mike

That goes both ways, Lots of China business men in USA , Canada, UK and many around the world right now. They dont want to go this way

+ We have a Lot of ALLIES too.

[Brian mike]

Originally Posted by crucifissio

its what they get for being invader ass kissers...I am surprised they did not arrest a few americans...they can flash impose some bullshit sanctions on say brazil and be like "you are doing business with brazil" and lock them up

The White House is considering an explicit trade ban on Chinese telecom equipment, according to a Reuters report

The White House is considering an executive order that would ban American wireless carriers from buying equipment from Chinese companies, according to a new report from Reuters. Such an order would primarily impact Huawei and ZTE — both Chinese companies, and two of the largest manufacturers of telecom equipment — and have a significant impact on the ongoing rollout of 5G network infrastructure.

The planned executive order would direct the Commerce Department to block purchases of Chinese telecom equipment on national security grounds, an action that would not require approval from Congress. Because the order would focus on purchases made by American carriers, it would primarily impact cell towers rather than phones purchased by individuals. Reuters claims the order has been under consideration for as long as eight months, citing anonymous sources.

Huawei and ZTE already face significant difficulties in the US market. Both companies were barred from US government use as part of a defense bill earlier this year, sending a strong message to carriers. ZTE faced catastrophic sanctions from the government over the summer, although the sanctions were ultimately lifted in the face of heavy lobbying.

A formal White House block on the technologies is unlikely to delay the 5G rollout, but it would further concerns that a division in network technology might give rise to an increasingly fragmented internet.

Huawei put the issue in even simpler terms in a general statement on 5G concerns published on Thursday before the Reuters report. “Barring Huawei from participating in various 5G markets is like an NBA game without all-stars,” Huawei rotating chairman Guo Ping wrote on the company’s official WeChat page. “You can’t play to the highest possible technical standards.”

Reached for comment by The Verge, a Huawei representative said the company does not comment on rumors or speculation.

https://www.theverge.com/2018/12/27/...rump-trade-war

[Brian mike]

Huawei's sales director and an ex-security agent were arrested on Tuesday, charged with espionage, according to Poland's TVP.

"Huawei is aware of the situation, and we are looking into it," a company spokesperson said. "We have no comment for the time being."

The news is likely to be another headache for Huawei, which has become enshrouded in controversy following the arrest of CFO Meng Wanzhou.

Poland's counterintelligence agency has arrested and charged an employee of Chinese tech giant Huawei over spying allegations.

According to Polish TV broadcaster Telewizja Polska (TVP), Huawei's sales director and an ex-security agent were arrested on Tuesday by officers of the country's Internal Security Agency, charged with espionage.

The Huawei employee is reportedly a Chinese national, while the former security agent is said to be a Polish national who recently worked for the Polish subsidiary of French telecommunications firm Orange.

Huawei and Orange's offices were searched and documents seized by the Internal Security Agency, the broadcaster reported.

Huawei said the company, which overtook Apple as the world's second-largest smartphone manufacturer last year, is aware of the situation.

"Huawei is aware of the situation, and we are looking into it," the firm said in a statement. "We have no comment for the time being."

It added: "Huawei complies with all applicable laws and regulations in the countries where it operates, and we require every employee to abide by the laws and regulations in the countries where they are based."


https://www.cnbc.com/2019/01/11/pola...legations.html

Originally Posted by crucifissio

china is now detaining TWO canadians...well done for china...you can never go too easy on these supporters of US terror...anybody who supports terrorism should be detained

[Brian mike]

Chinese telecom company Huawei told reporters at the Wall Street Journal that is fired its sales director, who had brought the company "into disrepute."

The employee was arrested in Poland on charges of conducting espionage on behalf of China.

The U.S. has long been suspicious of Huawei as a potential threat to national security.

Chinese telecom giant Huawei fired a sales director arrested in Poland on charges of conducting espionage on behalf of China, The Wall Street Journal reported on Saturday.

Huawei, the world's second largest maker of smartphones, further distanced itself from the employee, Wang Weijing, by issuing a statement that he had brought the company into "disrepute." It added that the employee's actions "have no relation to the company," and stressed that it complies with the law in all countries.

Prior to the arrest, the employee was responsible for sales of technology to government customers in Poland, an important market for Huawei, the Journal reported.

The news might serve to heighten fears in Washington that Huawei is a threat to national security. Huawei has long denied that, stating that it hasn't been caught up in any spying allegations. Saturday's arrest might change that.

It's the latest high-profile criminal incident involving Huawei in recent months, and follows a week of bad press.

In December, the company's chief financial officer, Meng Wanzhou, was arrested in Canada on the request of the U.S. government, amid suspicions that she had circumvented sanctions against Iran.

The U.S. has been trying to undermine Huawei's influence, warning about possible ties to Chinese intelligence groups and restricting access to countries' next generation 5G networks. For its part, Huawei has said that it is owned by employees and operates independently of Beijing.

Huawei's troubles have been playing out against the backdrop of the U.S.-China trade dispute, which President Donald Trump has been attempting to negotiate with Chinese President Xi Jinping.

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/01/12/huaw...espionage.html

[pimpmaster9000]

so basically the USA, the worlds #1 spy, accuses somebody of USA-ing

[Brian mike]

Originally Posted by crucifissio

so basically the USA, the worlds #1 spy, accuses somebody of USA-ing

They fuck with Canada so here is what they get

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada...land_relations

Wait more to come

[pimpmaster9000]

you aint got shit on china...canada is under the bus...just fucked itself from the worlds #1 market china...the taste of US ass has turned sour for canada

[Brian mike]

Originally Posted by crucifissio

you aint got shit on china...canada is under the bus...just fucked itself from the worlds #1 market china...the taste of US ass has turned sour for canada

Chinese telecom company Huawei told reporters at the Wall Street Journal that is fired its sales director, who had brought the company "into disrepute."

read again https://www.cnbc.com/2019/01/12/huaw...espionage.html LOL

[pimpmaster9000]

Originally Posted by Brian mike

Chinese telecom company Huawei told reporters at the Wall Street Journal that is fired its sales director, who had brought the company "into disrepute."

read again https://www.cnbc.com/2019/01/12/huaw...espionage.html LOL

canada at the moment:

[Brian mike]

Originally Posted by crucifissio

canada at the moment:

[xxx6live]

And meanwhile in China today a Canadian had his 15 year prison sentence turned into a death penalty... no connection whatsoever.

Source: cnn.com

[shake]

Every country in the world should ban Huawei’s spyware though.

[pimpmaster9000]

Originally Posted by shake

Every country in the world should ban Huawei’s spyware though.

yes they should totally move to NSA eeeeeer I mean USA products...



USA products trust factor: 10000000000000000000000000000000

[_Richard_]

Originally Posted by xxx6live

And meanwhile in China today a Canadian had his 15 year prison sentence turned into a death penalty... no connection whatsoever.

Source: cnn.com

actually this was around the time a huawei employee got busted for spying in poland

[Brian mike]

Originally Posted by crucifissio

you aint got shit on china...canada is under the bus...just fucked itself from the worlds #1 market china...the taste of US ass has turned sour for canada

China is feeling the Heat, 3 years the old man did not talk to media until now....





SHENZHEN, China—The founder and CEO of Huawei Technologies Co. said his company has never spied for the Chinese government—and never would—as he made a rare public appearance following the arrest of his daughter in Canada.

“No law requires any company in China to install mandatory back doors,” Ren Zhengfei said Tuesday. “I personally would never harm the interest of my customers and me and my company would not answer to such requests.”

Mr. Ren’s public comments at Huawei’s campus are his first in years and come as the telecom giant faces challenges on multiple fronts. His daughter, Huawei CFO Meng Wanzhou, is fighting extradition to the U.S., where prosecutors accuse her of lying about the company’s business with Iran, Huawei has been blocked from several key markets and last week one of its employees was arrested in Poland and charged with espionage.

Mr. Ren didn’t say what specifically he would do to resist requests from the Chinese government. All companies doing business in China are required by law to hand over customer data to the government in cases that touch on national security. In China, national-security threats are broadly defined and can include speech critical of the Communist Party.

Mr. Ren said he missed his daughter, but was optimistic justice would prevail. Ms. Meng was arrested on Dec. 1 in Vancouver at the request of U.S. authorities. She denies the charges.

Huawei’s reclusive 74-year-old founder, a former army engineer, also praised President Trump as a “great president” and maintained Huawei is owned by its employees. The U.S. has raised concerns about Huawei’s ties to the Chinese state and that its telecom equipment could be used by Beijing to spy.


https://www.wsj.com/articles/huawei-...na-11547542616