Dow at 26031

[huey]

Crickets......

[pimpmaster9000]

oh great its back to where it was a year ago...gay crickets...

[TheSquealer]

Leftists here HATE a strong economy. Cause... Orange Man Bad.

[Diomed]

Thank god I'm making money off hipsters.

[directfiesta]

Originally Posted by TheSquealer

Leftists here HATE a strong economy. Cause... Orange Man Bad.

You are boring ....

[OneHungLo]

Originally Posted by crucifissio

oh great its back to where it was a year ago...gay crickets...

Yeah up almost 40% in 2 years. Oh the horror.

I bet you it hits 30k before Trump starts his second term.

[OneHungLo]

Funny, Bladewire missed this one. It's almost as if he's cheering for a financial collapse.


Did you read that Bladey? "This would mark the first time since 1964 that the Dow has rallied in each of the first nine weeks of the year, and the first time in history that has happened for the Nasdaq."

[MFCT]

This is great on two levels. One, it proves Trump is a racist by financially oppressing poor people. And two, it proves Obama's financial policies are continuing to make the economy skyrocket.

[huey]

Originally Posted by MFCT

This is great on two levels. One, it proves Trump is a racist by financially oppressing poor people. And two, it proves Obama's financial policies are continuing to make the economy skyrocket.

Obama,Trump, does it matter?

[thommy]

Originally Posted by TheSquealer

Leftists here HATE a strong economy. Cause... Orange Man Bad.

loool

dow is up because companies bought their own shares back with taxpayers money.

if you would have the smallest clue about economic indicators you would see that the economy is right now on the level of 2014.

durable goods orders 60% UNDER expectation
philadelphia fed index went up for a year and is now UNDER the level before trump
went to office.

compare inflation, consumer prices and wages and you see that even with trumps tax break the prosperity (for the normal people) in US under trump went down.

[TheSquealer]

thommy, we all know you hate the success of the USA. get over it. forget about the fact that DE once had one of the most stable economies, banking climates and currencies in all of Europe and the world before joining the Euro and EU. It is over. That's all gone now. You'll never be the USA. The USA never wants to be you. You can't offend your betters,.. no matter how hard you try. You are like a chihuahua barking at a lion. No one cares and it's more sad than amusing.

[huey]

Originally Posted by thommy

loool

dow is up because companies bought their own shares back with taxpayers money.

if you would have the smallest clue about economic indicators you would see that the economy is right now on the level of 2014.

durable goods orders 60% UNDER expectation
philadelphia fed index went up for a year and is now UNDER the level before trump
went to office.

compare inflation, consumer prices and wages and you see that even with trumps tax break the prosperity (for the normal people) in US under trump went down.

Short away.

[thommy]

Originally Posted by TheSquealer

thommy, we all know you hate the success of the USA. get over it. forget about the fact that DE once had one of the most stable economies, banking climates and currencies in all of Europe and the world before joining the Euro and EU. It is over. That's all gone now. You'll never be the USA. The USA never wants to be you. You can't offend your betters,.. no matter how hard you try. You are like a chihuahua barking at a lion. No one cares and it's more sad than amusing.

we all know that you are a dumb ignorant of the truth.

you only see what you want to see and close your eyes from the rest.

but i don´t care if you think you are a lion and die in your own rabbit shit.
i really do not care that. i care the people that have a brain and are able to understand the facts. you are not one of them.
you confuse pity with jealousy when you think that someone in the western world would be jealous of america. there's nothing to be jealous of and nothing to be proud of anymore.

actually we just have to wait until you have destroyed yourselves - but unfortunately you also destroy the rest of the world and therefore it is also our thing what happens to you.

the hate and arrogance that trump and people like you have sown over the last few years will cost you more than just a world trade center, because 95% of the world's population will not be dictated by 5% as to how it all have to work.

you are on the best way to become the worlds number 1 enemy. if you don´t care that it shows only how little you care your own country.

[TheSquealer]

I love when the resident German Nazi who feels anyone who disagrees with him is inferior in every way and who frequently wishes death and suffering on others, talks about "hate" in others.

[thommy]

Originally Posted by TheSquealer

I love when the resident German Nazi who feels anyone who disagrees with him is inferior in every way and who frequently wishes death and suffering on others, talks about "hate" in others.

keep the "nazi" classification for your own passport.
hitler would be proud on you - he also loved the uneducated morons.

[TheSquealer]

I'm not a turd like you. I don't wish suffering, pain and death on others simply because i disagree with them.

That's a special trait of German Nazis like you.

Look, you had your chance. Nazis made their move, it didn't work out,.. so give it up.

Don't hate me for Patton and Montgomery the Russians ultimately steamrolling German troops and liberating the Nazi camp survivors and preventing you guys from fully wiping out entire races of people.

Maybe next time,... but you'll have to withdraw from the EU and Euro and get your shit together as a nation again first.

[pimpmaster9000]

Originally Posted by OneHungLo

Funny, Bladewire missed this one. It's almost as if he's cheering for a financial collapse.


Did you read that Bladey? "This would mark the first time since 1964 that the Dow has rallied in each of the first nine weeks of the year, and the first time in history that has happened for the Nasdaq."

I like how hopelessly brainwashed americans are...one points out how the dow has gained exactly 0 in one year and they come back with "first time since 1964 that dow rallied 9 weeks"


well its up 400% in 10 years...trumps 40% in 2 years is SERIOUS UNDERPERFORMANCE if you know basic math...

but trump supporters struggle with basic math...it hurts their unused brain

[thommy]

Originally Posted by crucifissio

I like how hopelessly brainwashed americans are...one points out how the dow has gained exactly 0 in one year and they come back with "first time since 1964 that dow rallied 9 weeks"


well its up 400% in 10 years...trumps 40% in 2 years is SERIOUS UNDERPERFORMANCE if you know basic math...

but trump supporters struggle with basic math...it hurts their unused brain

unused brain would mean that there is hope.
but where is no brain there is no hope.

the markets right now are not reacting on present numbers - they are reacting on the hope that the tradewar between china and US will find and end.

actually this tradewar did not change anything positive on the trade balance - in fact the imports increased and a lot of US companies moved out of the country.

did it hit china´s economy?
indeed it did - but not the way expected.
many chinese producers opened factories in thailand, india, bangladesh an other asian countries and produce all the stuff what is effected by the trade war there.
this investions in those countries have been the only hit and it is mostly going into assets.
so values just moved but not into US.

a new chinese deal will not change that anymore because they changed already the strategy and build new and bigger connections in asia and europe.

in crude numbers you can see the following:

US- exports was rising from 185 billion monthly by the end of 2016 to 209 billion now.
this is an increase of roughly 24 billion by month.

imports in the same time increased from 230 to 260 billion. this is 30 billion more per month. so what trump did made the trade balance worse and not better.

one of the most important production indicators (philadelphia fed manufactoring index) dropped this week again and it now UNDER the level when trump took office

car production went under the line of 2012
construction spendings under the level of 2016

i really don't know where this dreamers gets the numbers that could even remotely have a positive impact on economic growth.

the only thing that's going better than ever in the usa is the export of weapons to crisis countries. the same weapons that not only kill innocent people but also americans in the end.

[BaldBastard]

Hopefully its going to be an awesome week! China trade deal fever!!

Even at these early stages, stop and listen to what Trump is saying..

Its fucking alarming, he got nothing

[thommy]

Originally Posted by MrBaldBastard

Hopefully its going to be an awesome week! China trade deal fever!!

Even at these early stages, stop and listen to what Trump is saying..

Its fucking alarming, he got nothing

they will give him something what is complicated enough to sell it as a great victory.
but in fact the trade war is already lost as china have so much reserves not touched and the US is already over the limit.

the biggest joker they have is, that they are one of the biggest creditors to the US. they will do a fuck and give more money to finance a trade war.
trump overestimated the position he is in. at the very end there will only be a big nothing what is again sold as a big win to the stupids.

[pimpmaster9000]

Originally Posted by thommy

unused brain would mean that there is hope.
but where is no brain there is no hope.

the markets right now are not reacting on present numbers - they are reacting on the hope that the tradewar between china and US will find and end.

actually this tradewar did not change anything positive on the trade balance - in fact the imports increased and a lot of US companies moved out of the country.

did it hit china´s economy?
indeed it did - but not the way expected.
many chinese producers opened factories in thailand, india, bangladesh an other asian countries and produce all the stuff what is effected by the trade war there.
this investions in those countries have been the only hit and it is mostly going into assets.
so values just moved but not into US.

a new chinese deal will not change that anymore because they changed already the strategy and build new and bigger connections in asia and europe.

in crude numbers you can see the following:

US- exports was rising from 185 billion monthly by the end of 2016 to 209 billion now.
this is an increase of roughly 24 billion by month.

imports in the same time increased from 230 to 260 billion. this is 30 billion more per month. so what trump did made the trade balance worse and not better.

one of the most important production indicators (philadelphia fed manufactoring index) dropped this week again and it now UNDER the level when trump took office

car production went under the line of 2012
construction spendings under the level of 2016

i really don't know where this dreamers gets the numbers that could even remotely have a positive impact on economic growth.

the only thing that's going better than ever in the usa is the export of weapons to crisis countries. the same weapons that not only kill innocent people but also americans in the end.

the whole concept that you can force people to buy your goods is a scam...sure you can make china buy soybeans from the USA and not from some other US trade partner but its not really a win...the US trade partner now has less money and US goods in that country will not exactly be popular because they know who threw them under the bus...they will nevertheless declare it as a huge win

the bottom line is: if you have to blackmail people in to buying your goods, the end is nigh...

but its the best 9 weeks ever on the stock market, if you completely ignore the year before


here is a gay cricket for OP

[BaldBastard]

Originally Posted by thommy

they will give him something what is complicated enough to sell it as a great victory.
but in fact the trade war is already lost as china have so much reserves not touched and the US is already over the limit.

the biggest joker they have is, that they are one of the biggest creditors to the US. they will do a fuck and give more money to finance a trade war.
trump overestimated the position he is in. at the very end there will only be a big nothing what is again sold as a big win to the stupids.

https://twitter.com/SecretarySonny/s...49705131118592

BREAKING: In Oval Office meeting today, the Chinese committed to buy an additional 10 million metric tons of U.S. soybeans. Hats off to @POTUS for bringing China to the table!!!

See winning! Slight issue is America had 35 billion in trade previously, China stopped importing American beans, other countries took over that market. I'm sure the Chinese right now can use 10 million more.. It's the Year Of The Piggy

But next year reality hits, that reality for the simpletons.. Brazil took your business.
https://www.agweb.com/article/breaki...live-analysis/

This Ag web pod cast is great! there like YO Go TRUMP!!!, then they work out they have 72% less business than they had before, and they still haven factored in.. Brazil is now the worlds largest producer.

I find it really sad, because they're still believing, when the reality is not only has Trump fucked their business.. he fucked it for generations.

[huey]

Originally Posted by crucifissio

the whole concept that you can force people to buy your goods is a scam...sure you can make china buy soybeans from the USA and not from some other US trade partner but its not really a win...the US trade partner now has less money and US goods in that country will not exactly be popular because they know who threw them under the bus...they will nevertheless declare it as a huge win

the bottom line is: if you have to blackmail people in to buying your goods, the end is nigh...

but its the best 9 weeks ever on the stock market, if you completely ignore the year before


here is a gay cricket for OP

China has nothing to offer that the US could not create itself.

I banged two hot Christian Orthodox Serb chics in the last year. They love gay cricket cock : )

There is a Croatian saying, God spent 99% of his time creating Serbian women and 1% of his time on the men.

[thommy]

Originally Posted by MrBaldBastard

https://twitter.com/SecretarySonny/s...49705131118592

BREAKING: In Oval Office meeting today, the Chinese committed to buy an additional 10 million metric tons of U.S. soybeans. Hats off to @POTUS for bringing China to the table!!!

See winning! Slight issue is America had 35 billion in trade previously, China stopped importing American beans, other countries took over that market. I'm sure the Chinese right now can use 10 million more.. It's the Year Of The Piggy

But next year reality hits, that reality for the simpletons.. Brazil took your business.
https://www.agweb.com/article/breaki...live-analysis/

This Ag web pod cast is great! there like YO Go TRUMP!!!, then they work out they have 72% less business than they had before, and they still haven factored in.. Brazil is now the worlds largest producer.

I find it really sad, because they're still believing, when the reality is not only has Trump fucked their business.. he fucked it for generations.

what most people will not understand is this.

US soy bean exports to china have been 8.2 million metric tonns in 2018
if they buy now 10 million more (and that will be trump´s winning message) they will buy 18.2 million metric tonns.

BUT in 2017 and before they bought 21 million metric tonns.
means in total nearly 4 million tonns LESS as before - BIG MAGA !!!!!

and as you correctly described China made already new deals and many other countries
increased the soy production for china and they did not do it because of a few month.
these are longterm contracts and the US farmers will NEVER deliver the same amount again. BIG BIG MAGA !!!

about the real problems the world have with china exports there is no word in this new trade deal. actually this is nothing what china or the US could resolve - it is the WTO that can and have to.
but the WTO will do a fuck for trump after all names he called them. all international action will be on ice to the time after trump. they want to wait if there will be one who understand the job. nobody will make any longterm deal with a dumb sociopath.

[thommy]

Originally Posted by huey

China has nothing to offer that the US could not create itself.

you know that you talk about the largest economy in the world????
why do you think they are that if they have nothing anybody else need?

wait a few years and than the US will lose it´s 3rd place in the list to india. with their present growth rate of 7,2% that should be within the next 6 or 7 years. if trump wins in 2020 even earlier.

[BaldBastard]

Originally Posted by huey

China has nothing to offer that the US could not create itself.

you all better get fucking very very fast then. because what China is offering is access to their emerging second wave of population hitting middleclass.. all 850 million of them.

This is what's been stupid, despite any trade imbalance now, that's all about to flip, as the Chinese themselves start consuming more than they can produce.

[huey]

Originally Posted by MrBaldBastard

you all better get fucking very very fast then. because what China is offering is access to their emerging second wave of population hitting middleclass.. all 850 million of them.

This is what's been stupid, despite any trade imbalance now, that's all about to flip, as the Chinese themselves start consuming more than they can produce.

That's my point. US has natural resources and can manufacture anything they buy from another country or sell back to another country.

[thommy]

Originally Posted by MrBaldBastard

all 850 million of them.

let me correct you here:

1,386 billion of them !!!

[OneHungLo]

Originally Posted by crucifissio

I like how hopelessly brainwashed americans are...one points out how the dow has gained exactly 0 in one year and they come back with "first time since 1964 that dow rallied 9 weeks"


well its up 400% in 10 years...trumps 40% in 2 years is SERIOUS UNDERPERFORMANCE if you know basic math...

but trump supporters struggle with basic math...it hurts their unused brain

To put it in perspective, a little under a year before Obama was elected the Dow was 14k. It was at 18K when Trump was elected. Such bad recessions are are followed by very strong recoveries. Not with Obama - he literally had the worst performance in the history of recoveries.


Plus with Obama you had nothing but 8 years of FREE money. ZERO interest rate hikes. No trade wars.

So get a clue dude

[OneHungLo]

These threads really bring the anti-American slimeballs from out of the gutter. As you notice, the usual anti-Trump suspects (redfed, crockett, bronco etc) avoid these because it's kind of hard to spin the fact that Trump got China to buy over a trillion dollars worth of goods as a bad thing lol

[pimpmaster9000]

Originally Posted by OneHungLo

Trump got China to buy over a trillion dollars worth of goods as a bad thing lol

Correction, trump got china to NOT buy 1 trillion from your trade partners but from you instead...your trade partners now have 1 trillion less AND they know the USA is to blame...I am sure they will stand in line to buy US goods now LOL...

you need to blackmail people to buy from you....need I say more?

[OneHungLo]

Originally Posted by crucifissio

Correction, trump got china to NOT buy 1 trillion from your trade partners but from you instead...your trade partners now have 1 trillion less AND they know the USA is to blame...I am sure they will stand in line to buy US goods now LOL...

you need to blackmail people to buy from you....need I say more?

Again, I've explained this to you in another thread that trade is fluid and not a zero sum game.

And now negotiating a better deal is blackmail? hahaha you can't even make this shit up.

OMG orange man bad! He's blackmailing China!!!

[pimpmaster9000]

Originally Posted by OneHungLo

Again, I've explained this to you in another thread that trade is fluid and not a zero sum game.

And now negotiating a better deal is blackmail? hahaha you can't even make this shit up.

OMG orange man bad! He's blackmailing China!!!

No new buyers were created...the seats on the titanic have been rearranged...you still have to balackmail people so they buy from you...you can call this " a better deal" but your trade deficit seems to be only thing growing...seats rearranged and declared as MAGA IRL

[OneHungLo]

Originally Posted by crucifissio

No new buyers were created...the seats on the titanic have been rearranged...you still have to balackmail people so they buy from you...you can call this " a better deal" but your trade deficit seems to be only thing growing...seats rearranged and declared as MAGA IRL

The only problem with your analogy is the international trade isn't like deck chairs on the titanic. Not even close. See your ignorance is causing you to have ITDS (international Trump Derangement Syndrome).

[TheSquealer]

Oh, the envy of hateful foreigners. Always nice to see all the important nations weighing in on right and wrong and morality and how others "hate" or "invade"... a British prison colony, a mass murdering 3rd Reich who is responsible for the deaths of 10s of millions and the local rep from the Eastern European Center for Modern Day Genocide.

[pimpmaster9000]

Originally Posted by OneHungLo

The only problem with your analogy is the international trade isn't like deck chairs on the titanic. Not even close. See your ignorance is causing you to have ITDS (international Trump Derangement Syndrome).

I am not comparing international trade to the titanic...I am comparing US exports to the titanic...nobody wants your shit...so you are forced to blackmail people to buy...MAGA!

[pimpmaster9000]

Originally Posted by TheSquealer

Oh, the envy of hateful foreigners. Always nice to see all the important nations weighing in on right and wrong and morality and how others "hate" or "invade"... a British prison colony, a mass murdering 3rd Reich who is responsible for the deaths of 10s of millions and the local rep from the Eastern European Center for Modern Day Genocide.

Nobody envies you...you just like to think so because you have fragile egos...you are the cancer of the earth...we will be free from you one day...

[OneHungLo]

Originally Posted by crucifissio

I am not comparing international trade to the titanic...I am comparing US exports to the titanic...nobody wants your shit...so you are forced to blackmail people to buy...MAGA!

Nobody wants American stuff.

Hey if that helps calm your ptsd and helps you sleep at night then fine...you're right

[pimpmaster9000]

Originally Posted by OneHungLo

Hey if that helps calm your ptsd and helps you sleep at night then fine...you're right

Did the trade deficit drop? No? Let me know when your total trade deficitgoes down...until then, enjoy the rearranged seats...

[TheSquealer]

Originally Posted by crucifissio

Nobody envies you...you just like to think so because you have fragile egos...you are the cancer of the earth...we will be free from you one day...

this coming from the nation that started World War 1 and who is more famous for executions and mass graves in contemporary history.

Who had to stop Serbs from their genocidal murder spree???

The USA and NATO.

Sorry that we interrupted your passion project.

[pimpmaster9000]

Originally Posted by TheSquealer

this coming from the nation that started World War 1 and who is more famous for executions and mass graves in contemporary history.

Who had to stop Serbs from their genocidal murder spree???

The USA and NATO.

Sorry that we interrupted your passion project.

Invader, you can parrot you "saddam had wmd" version of events all you want...we will forbid you from ever mentioning us LOL...fun times ahead...

[TheSquealer]

So... your thinking is that one day Serbia will matter?

Doesn't seem likely to happen in our lifetimes unless suddenly the world needs advice on mass murder of Albanians or on how to raise goats and chickens for currency.

[pimpmaster9000]

Originally Posted by TheSquealer

So... your thinking is that one day Serbia will matter?

Doesn't seem likely to happen in our lifetimes unless suddenly the world needs advice on mass murder of Albanians or how to raise goats and chickens for currency.

Anybody with an amp of bacteria will matter very very much...you will not sleep when serbia has elections LOL

[TheSquealer]

[BaldBastard]

Originally Posted by thommy

let me correct you here:

1,386 billion of them !!!

I'm well aware of Chinese numbers, and the single biggest number is "between 2009 and 2030, the country will add 850 million to its middle class" That's 42 million NEW consumers a year. Xi has said since 2010 that he want's that market opened up, he has no choice.

we are now halfway though that prediction.. and Chinas right on target.

For every country trading with China, it should be the single biggest growth in export earnings.. in history. For America it will take slightly longer because of American's addiction to cheap "Crap"... but at some stage the needle swings from more exports than Imports., no trump wand, Obama magic, Bush charm involved..

Just BIG FUCKIN NUMBERS

The one thig that will fuck any country is if the leader of that country manages to convince the Chinese public.. not to buy a product based on its country of origin.

Sadly Australia.. and the USA are walking into that trap

[pimpmaster9000]

Originally Posted by MrBaldBastard

The one thig that will fuck any country is if the leader of that country manages to convince the Chinese public.. not to buy a product based on its country of origin.

Sadly Australia.. and the USA are walking into that trap

They USA is fucking itself out of the china market hard...

[celandina]

Same thing 90 years in making

[TheSquealer]

[pimpmaster9000]

Originally Posted by TheSquealer

Wow it did not gain shit in a year...MAGA!

[TheSquealer]

Originally Posted by crucifissio

Wow it did not gain shit in a year...MAGA!

And in a year, Serbia is still 100% irrelevant to anyone, anywhere for any reason.