Trump is now going after Medicare, Social Security, Medicaid, and more

[RedFred]

President Donald Trump’s administration unveiled its third budget proposal Monday, cementing a vision for the United States that bolsters funding for defense and border walls, while severely cutting social programs for the nation’s poorest.

The $4.7 trillion budget proposal, which encompasses everything from funding for food aid, education, and health care to national defense, seeks to slash $845 billion from Medicare — a program Trump notably promised to leave untouched — $241 billion from Medicaid through major structural reforms, as well as a 9 percent cut across non-defense programs, all while increasing the defense budget to $750 billion, 5 percent more than the 2019 budget.

Additionally, Trump’s administration has asked Congress for $8.6 billion for the president’s border wall, a project the president declared a national emergency over earlier this year amid the nation’s longest government shutdown in history.

If Trump’s budget were to be enacted, some of the biggest policy changes would include:

- $1.5 trillion in cuts to Medicaid over 10 years, implementing work requirements as well as eliminating the Medicaid expansion under the Affordable Care Act. The budget instead adds $1.2 trillion for a “Market Based Health Care Grant” — block grant to states, instead of paying by need. It’s not clear whether that would be part of Medicaid.

- An $845 billion cut to Medicare over 10 years, about a 10 percent cut, to be achieved through targeting wasteful spending and provider payments and lowering prescription drug costs.

-$25 billion in cuts to Social Security over 10 years, including cuts to disability insurance.

-A $220 billion cut to Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP), commonly referred to as food stamps, over 10 years, including mandatory work requirements. The program currently serves around 45 million people.

-A $21 billion cut to Temporary Assistance for Needy Families, an already severely underfunded cash-assistance program for the nation’s poorest.

-$207 billion in cuts to the student loan program, eliminating the Public Service Loan Forgiveness program and cutting subsidized student loans.

-Increases defense spending by $34 billion next year, to a $750 billion budget baseline. That makes up a 5 percent boost to defense and military spending. To keep the defense budget within current caps, the White House uses a gimmick, putting $164 billion of this budget increase in an uncapped overseas contingency (OCO) fund.

$8.6 billion in funding for the southern border wall, separated between increased funding for the Department of Homeland Security and funding for military construction.

The Trump administration is proud of the proposed cuts.

“This budget will have more reductions in spending than any president in history has ever proposed,” a senior administration official told reporters Monday, expressing concern about the national debt. The deficit has swelled under Republican leadership in large part because of the tax cuts enacted last year. Trump’s administration, however, has balked at the notion that the decrease in revenue from cutting corporate taxes is the root cause of the growing debt.

“It’s not that Americans are taxed too little, it’s that Washington spends too much,” Russ Vought, the Office of Management and Budget’s deputy director, penned in a Fox News op-ed Monday.


Trump’s 2020 budget proposal seriously cuts the nation’s safety net

[Bladewire]

It must be his way of making healthcare & drug prices cheaper like he promised during his campaign

[crockett]

80% of Trump's base is old white guys on social security.. Of course they will say.. "oh he doesn't really mean he's gonna go after my social security.. he mean's the dead beats"..


6 months later.. I didn't think he was gonna take "my" social security.. I thought it was the other guy's...


They didn't listen when we told them Trump & Republican was gonna take their health insurance away and they wont listen now either. They are the dumbest of the dumb..

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by crockett

80% of Trump's base is old white guys on social security.. Of course they will say.. "oh he doesn't really mean he's gonna go after my social security.. he mean's the dead beats"..


6 months later.. I didn't think he was gonna take "my" social security.. I thought it was the other guy's...


They didn't listen when we told them Trump & Republican was gonna take their health insurance away and they wont listen now either. They are the dumbest of the dumb..

And by the next election they're dead and can't vote against Trump. Sad

[RedFred]

[beerptrol]

Chump supporters are lemmings who would gladly throw themselves over a cliff

[kane]

It's already happening. The tax cut was passed using budget reconciliation which means it has to have certain stopgaps in it in case it costs more than anticipated. The entire thing is based on their being a steady 3% GDP growth every year. When that doesn't happen, it starts cutting into medicare and medicaid to make up for the losses.

So, in short, sick and old people get fucked so billionaires can get tax write-offs on their private jets.

[Rochard]

This is just disgusting all around....

[OneHungLo]

You gotta love VOX. Oh no!! Don't take away the gibsmedats!!!

Trump releases budget seeking billions for border wall, work requirements for welfare programs

President Trump kicked off a new battle with Congress on Monday by releasing his fiscal 2020 budget plan seeking billions more in funding for a border wall and controversial work requirements for Americans collecting a variety of welfare benefits.

Both proposals are sure to face resistance from Democrats, especially coming off a partial shutdown triggered by a border wall dispute that only ended when Trump declared a national emergency over immigration -- a step being litigated in the courts and challenged in Congress. The requests are part of the president's $4.7 trillion budget plan.

Escalating Trump's pursuit of wall funding, the White House in the new budget requested an additional $8.6 billion to build the wall along the U.S.-Mexico border—seeking $5 billion from Congress, plus $3.6 billion from the military construction budget, for fiscal 2020.

TRUMP TO REQUEST $8.6 BILLION IN WALL FUNDING IN 'TOUGH' BUDGET REQUEST, SETTING UP CONGRESSIONAL SHOWDOWN

Meanwhile, the budget aims to implement new welfare requirements -- namely, that Americans 18-65 years old work at least 20 hours a week in a job, a job training program or a community service program to secure a range of benefits and aid.

According to the administration, the work requirement would apply to federal programs like food stamps, Medicaid, and federal housing, but would come with a hardship exemption. Last year, the administration opened the door for states to impose work requirements for Medicaid recipients. This part of the budget proposal would bring those work requirements to the federal level.

The proposal would represent an expansion of work requirements, though some already are in place. For the past several administrations, able-bodied recipients of the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (food stamps) have mostly had to work at least 80 hours a month -- while recipients of traditional welfare known as Temporary Assistance for Needy Families (TANF) have also faced work requirements.

The budget, meanwhile, projects a $1.1 trillion deficit for the fiscal year beginning Oct. 1, but also calls for deep cuts to domestic programs.

“In the last two years, President Trump and his Administration have prioritized reining in reckless Washington spending. The Budget that we have presented to Congress and the American people…embodies fiscal responsibility and takes aim at Washington’s waste, fraud, and abuse,” Office of Management and Budget Acting Director Russ Vought said in a statement.

“Our national debt nearly doubled under the previous Administration and now stands at more than $22 trillion,” he continued. “This Budget shows that we can return to fiscal sanity without halting our economic resurgence while continuing to invest in critical priorities.”

The budget also includes a national paid family leave proposal and seeks money to establish the Space Force as a new branch of the military, while sharply curbing spending on domestic safety-net programs. The outline includes a total of $2.7 trillion in nondefense spending cuts and the administration says the proposal would put the federal government on track to balance the budget by 2034.

The White House’s request for billions of dollars in additional funding for a wall comes as senior Homeland Security officials told Fox News that the administration is preparing for an estimated 180,000 migrants traveling as families to cross the border—either illegally, or claiming asylum—marking a record in family units crossing.

“We want to strengthen legal immigration and welcome more individuals through a merit-based system that enhances our economic vitality and vibrancy of our diverse nation. We also will continue to uphold our humanitarian ideals,” Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen said last week during a House hearing. “But illegal immigration is simply spiraling out of control and threatening public safety and national security.”

NIELSEN DECLARES MIGRATION CRISIS 'SPIRALING OUT OF CONTROL,' WARNS IT WILL GET 'EVEN WORSE'

The $8.6 billion would allow the administration to complete more than the promised 722 miles of wall along the border, according to White House officials. The funding comes on top of the billions Trump is working to shift from military accounts after declaring a national emergency last month. The emergency declaration came after Congress blocked Trump’s original request for $5.7 billion for construction of the wall. That denial sparked the longest partial shutdown of the federal government in U.S. history.

Democrats, though, continue to argue that an emergency at the border is “non-existent,” and promised to block the proposal to build the wall again.

“President Trump hurt millions of Americans and caused widespread chaos when he recklessly shut down the government to try to get his expensive and ineffective wall, which he promised would be paid for by Mexico,” Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., and House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., said in a statement.

“Congress refused to fund his wall and he was forced to admit defeat and reopen the government. The same thing will repeat itself if he tries this again. We hope he learned his lesson,” they said, adding that the funding would be better put to use toward domestic programs like “education and workforce development.”

The administration is expecting pushback on this “tough” budget, according to White House economic adviser Larry Kudlow.

“I would just say that the whole issue of the wall, of border security, is of paramount importance,” Kudlow said on “Fox News Sunday. “We have a crisis down there. I think the president has made that case very effectively.”

Trump also proposed $750 billion for defense, representing a 5 percent increase, while cutting non-defense discretionary spending by 5 percent below the cap. The budget will also increase requests for some agencies, while reducing others to reflect those priorities. For example, the 2020 budget seeks to reduce funding for the Environmental Protection Agency.

Budgets are mainly seen as blueprints for the White House’s priorities and agenda but are often debated and negotiated on Capitol Hill, where lawmakers craft the appropriation bills that eventually fund the government.

And while the budget will suggest it balances in future years, it is also expected to rely on projections for continued economic growth from the tax cuts Trump signed into law in 2017. But there's no guarantee that would cover the lost tax revenues.

By proposing spending levels that don't raise the budget caps, the president is courting a debate with Congress. Lawmakers from both parties have routinely agreed to raise spending caps established by a previous deal years ago to fund the government.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/tru...ts-for-welfare

[crockett]

You know the best thing ever?

The next Democrat could run on the campaign slogan.. "Make America Great Again" and it would be much more realistic than when Trump used it.. Sad.

[TheSquealer]

[TheSquealer]

Originally Posted by crockett

You know the best thing ever?

The next Democrat could run on the campaign slogan.. "Make America Great Again" and it would be much more realistic than when Trump used it.. Sad.

Bill Clinton said it before Trump did.

[MaDalton]

Originally Posted by TheSquealer

And now the guy who really wrote the book

“I believe the republic is at enormous risk that goes far beyond what most journalists are comfortable saying and what the general public therefore – it doesn’t really fully understand,” he said. He added: “We are in a true emergency.”

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-a8450141.html

[Acepimp]

It's like an alt-left circle jerk in here. Sorry, I don't respond to hate groups. I'm out.

[onwebcam]

If we have ACA why do we need medicaid and medicare? Isn't that why those who pay for insurance are paying out the ass so that those that can't afford it get free health care?? Or are we getting double whammied?

[RedFred]

Originally Posted by onwebcam

If we have ACA why do we need medicaid and medicare? Isn't that why those who pay for insurance are paying out the ass so that those that can't afford it get free health care?? Or are we getting double whammied?

People pay into Medicare their whole life, it isn't free and has nothing to do with the ACA. Are you seriously this stupid?

[RedFred]

[Paul Markham]

If true that's a disaster.

But let me reveal to you the reason why your Medical Health cost so much. Consecutive US governments have bent over backwards to the Pharma and Health Care parasites. So you've ended up with the most expensive and a pretty average health care system.

As for making America Great Again. That will never happen while foreign labour is imported and manufacturing, science, technology are exported. And why your country is so deep in debt it can't raise the taxes to pay it's own bills.

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

If true that's a disaster.

But let me reveal to you the reason why your Medical Health cost so much. Consecutive US governments have bent over backwards to the Pharma and Health Care parasites. So you've ended up with the most expensive and a pretty average health care system.

You couldn't be more correct. Insurance companies and colleges are for profit and it's really fucked things up.

[pimpmaster9000]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

As for making America Great Again. That will never happen while foreign labour is imported and manufacturing, science, technology are exported. And why your country is so deep in debt it can't raise the taxes to pay it's own bills.

yeah paul you tell them from your outsourced production country

keep it domestic! (but not paul)

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by Rochard

You couldn't be more correct. Insurance companies and colleges are for profit and it's really fucked things up.

You voted for the guys who gave you this fucked up system.

[Hawkeye]

Originally Posted by RedFred

President Donald Trump’s administration unveiled its third budget proposal Monday, cementing a vision for the United States that bolsters funding for defense and border walls, while severely cutting social programs for the nation’s poorest.

It's still amazing to me that Leftists have no clue how President Trump operates, even though he wrote multiple books explaining exactly what he is doing.

What does President Trump really want? He wants the wall and more security.

How does he get it? By asking for WAY MORE than what he really wants, and then negotiating down.

So he'll give up a fake concession, to stop cuts to Social Security and Medicare (which he never wanted anyway), in exchange for full funding of the wall and more security.

It's negotiation 101. This is a business-oriented message board, and you dumbasses still don't understand this?

[OneHungLo]

Originally Posted by Hawkeye

It's still amazing to me that Leftists have no clue how President Trump operates, even though he wrote multiple books explaining exactly what he is doing.

What does President Trump really want? He wants the wall and more security.

How does he get it? By asking for WAY MORE than what he really wants, and then negotiating down.

So he'll give up a fake concession, to stop cuts to Social Security and Medicare (which he never wanted anyway), in exchange for full funding of the wall and more security.

It's negotiation 101. This is a business-oriented message board, and you dumbasses still don't understand this?

They have blind rage.

[directfiesta]

Originally Posted by TheSquealer

Bill Clinton said it before Trump did.

... and Reagan as well .

Your point ?