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Old 03-24-2019, 06:44 PM   #1
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Trump allows Russian soldiers to secure oil fields for Putin takeover in Venezuela




This is a big fuck you move by Trump against the Koch brothers. evidently Trump thinks Putin can help him win 2020 more than the Koch brothers money could. The Koch Brothers own and operate our East Coast Refineries that depend on Venezuelan oil for their operations.

"Two Russian air force planes landed at Venezuela’s main airport on Saturday carrying a Russian defense official and nearly 100 troops"

Trump allows Russian soldiers to secure oil fields for Putin takeover in Venezuela
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Special Report: Vladimir's Venezuela - Leveraging loans to Caracas, Moscow snaps up oil assets | Reuters

CARACAS/HOUSTON (Reuters) - Venezuela’s unraveling socialist government is increasingly turning to ally Russia for the cash and credit it needs to survive – and offering prized state-owned oil assets in return, sources familiar with the negotiations told Reuters.

As Caracas struggles to contain an economic meltdown and violent street protests, Moscow is using its position as Venezuela’s lender of last resort to gain more control over the OPEC nation’s crude reserves, the largest in the world.

Venezuela’s state-owned oil firm, Petroleos de Venezuela (PDVSA), has been secretly negotiating since at least early this year with Russia’s biggest state-owned oil company, Rosneft (ROSN.MM) - offering ownership interests in up to nine of Venezuela’s most productive petroleum projects, according to a top Venezuelan government official and two industry sources familiar with the talks.

Moscow has substantial leverage in the negotiations: Cash from Russia and Rosneft has been crucial in helping the financially strapped government of Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro avoid a sovereign debt default or a political coup.

Rosneft delivered Venezuela’s state-owned firm more than $1 billion in April alone in exchange for a promise of oil shipments later. On at least two occasions, the Venezuelan government has used Russian cash to avoid imminent defaults on payments to bondholders, a high-level PDVSA official told Reuters.

Rosneft has also positioned itself as a middleman in sales of Venezuelan oil to customers worldwide. Much of it ends up at refineries in the United States – despite U.S. sanctions against Russia – because it is sold through intermediaries such as oil trading firms, according to internal PDVSA trade reports seen by Reuters and a source at the firm.

PDVSA and the government of Venezuela did not respond to requests for comment.

The Russian government declined to comment and referred questions to the foreign ministry and the ministries of finance and defense, which did not respond to questions from Reuters. Rosneft declined to comment.

Russia’s growing control over Venezuelan crude gives it a stronger foothold in energy markets across the Americas. Rosneft now resells about 225,000 barrels per day (bpd) of Venezuelan oil - about 13 percent of the nation’s total exports, according to the PDVSA trade reports. That’s about enough to satisfy the daily demand of a country the size of Peru.

Venezuela gives Rosneft most of that oil as payment for billions of dollars in cash loans that Maduro’s government has already spent. His administration needs Russia’s money to finance everything from bond payments to imports of food and medicine amid severe national shortages.

For a graphic detailing the decline of Venezuela's oil industry, see: tmsnrt.rs/2fwsuCV

Venezuela’s opposition lawmakers say Russia is behaving more like a predator than an ally.

“Rosneft is definitely taking advantage of the situation,” said Elias Matta, vice president of the energy commission at Venezuela’s elected National Assembly. “They know this is a weak government; that it’s desperate for cash - and they’re sharks.”

Matta echoed many others in the opposition-majority congress who have blasted corporate deals they say are underpinning Maduro’s efforts to establish a dictatorship.

The Venezuelan government has said previously that Russia’s investment in its oil industry shows confidence in PDVSA’s financial stability and the nation’s business opportunities.

Maduro’s administration has grown increasingly dependent on Moscow in the past two years as China has curtailed credit to Venezuela because of payment delays and the corruption and crime faced by Chinese firms operating there, according to Venezuelan debt analysts and two oil industry sources.

Many multinational firms worldwide, meanwhile, have all but written off their Venezuelan operations amid the nation’s tanking economy and chronic shortages of raw materials.

Rosneft is making the opposite play - using Venezuela’s hard times as a buying opportunity for oil assets with potentially high long-term value.

“The Russians are catching Venezuela at rock bottom,” said one Western diplomat who has worked on issues involving Venezuela’s oil industry in recent years.

As other companies shutter operations here, Rosneft has expanded to an additional floor of its office tower and added staff. The Russian firm has poached PDVSA professionals and brought in more Russian executives, two sources close to Rosneft told Reuters.

The corporate expansion provides a striking contrast to the scene on the streets below these days, in the once-thriving business district of Caracas.

As Rosneft staffers work in swanky offices alongside posters of Russian President Vladimir Putin and a bust of Hugo Chavez - the late Venezuelan leader and socialist icon - crowds of young men outside often throw rocks and Molotov cocktails in escalating protests of Chavez’ successor.

Rosneft currently owns substantial portions of five major Venezuelan oil projects. The additional projects PDVSA is now offering the Russian firm include five in the Orinoco - Venezuela’s largest oil producing region – along with three in Maracaibo Lake, its second-largest and oldest producing area, and a shallow-water oil project in the Paria Gulf, the two industry sources told Reuters.

In a separate proposal first reported by Reuters last month, Rosneft would swap its collateral on 49.9 percent of Citgo [PDVSAC.UL] – the Venezuelan owned, U.S.-based refiner – for stakes in three additional PDVSA oil fields, two natural gas fields and a lucrative fuel supply contract, according to two sources with knowledge of the negotiations.
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Why do Trump supporters not care that Trump is allowing Putin to steal the oil from Venezuela?
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The USA doesn't need to care about oil thanks to Trump. Dipshit.
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Why do Trump supporters not care that Trump is allowing Putin to steal the oil from Venezuela?
It is Venezuela trying steal our money

Russia Signs $6 Billion Investment Deals With Venezuela, Maduro Says
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The alternative was the US funding Venezuela and taking the oil.

The lack of action by the US is probably punishment for supporting Hugo Chavez.
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Why do Trump supporters not care that Trump is allowing Putin to steal the oil from Venezuela?
Since when Trump is a president of Venezuela, ah clown?
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the first chance small countries get to bacteria up they will grab it with both hands...the rules for invaders continuing to live will be strict and unfair

you deserve this

yes you do

you know you do

fun times ahead
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you deserve this

yes you do

you know you do

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The things you hope for are weird.
You are likely on a list by now. Constantly cheering some rogue state on to wipe out humanity.
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You are likely on a list by now. Constantly cheering some rogue state on to wipe out humanity.
conventional warfare is no longer an option...small countries can not waste their entire budgets just to keep americans out...what is left is:

1) live life bent over and get fucked like venezuela forever...
2) non conventional warfare...


it is not my "wish" it is a self fulfilling prophecy...the weak will arm up and do what ever it takes to keep invaders out...your safety and your opinion will be of no concern...
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2) non conventional warfare
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It for adult guys ))
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we do not care, we just want invaders out at any price including mutual destruction
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Since when Trump is a president of Venezuela, ah clown?
Well CyberFAG, just like Putin strong arms and exerts control over all his neighbors, so does the U.S.

Trump is allowing Putin in our back yard with troops, a first, just like him allowing Russians that helped throw the election into the oval office.
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1) live life bent over and get fucked like venezuela forever...
2) non conventional warfare...


it is not my "wish" it is a self fulfilling prophecy...the weak will arm up and do what ever it takes to keep invaders out...your safety and your opinion will be of no concern...
you post about it at least everyday

seriously man...
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Notice all the pro Trump fake nics are pro Putin controlling America's backyard and have no issue with hundreds of Russian troops and weapons being imported in over the weekend

The IRA trolls hard at work pushing Putins agenda.
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Notice all the pro Trump fake nics are pro Putin controlling America's backyard and have no issue with hundreds of Russian troops and weapons being imported in over the weekend
The IRA trolls hard at work pushing Putins agenda.
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As Russia takes over in Venezuela and Trump eases sanctions on Russia, Dwight Howard sends out a whiny memo without any call to action to change Russia's takeover of Venezuela.

So this memo is just fluff there's no teeth to it AKA Trump is letting Putin take over our backyard while he sucks Putins dick dry.

U.S. calls Russia deployment of planes to Venezuela 'reckless escalation'

WASHINGTON/CARACAS (Reuters) - The United States on Monday accused Russia of "reckless escalation" of the situation in Venezuela by deploying military planes and personnel to the crisis-stricken South American nation that Washington has hit with crippling sanctions.

The Russian planes and military personnel arrived outside the Venezuelan capital Caracas on Saturday, according to local media reports, two months after the Trump administration disavowed President Nicolas Maduro.

Washington has recognized opposition leader Juan Guaido as the country's legitimate president and demands that Maduro leave power, which Russia has described as a U.S.-backed coup against the socialist government.

"The United States condemns Russia's deployment of military aircraft and personnel to Caracas, which is another contradiction of both Nicolas Maduro's and Russia's calls for non-intervention in Venezuela and is a reckless escalation of the situation," a State Department spokesman said on condition of anonymity.

U.S. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo told his Russian counterpart Sergei Lavrov in a phone call on Monday that Washington would "not stand idly by" as Russia backed Maduro, who has overseen a dramatic collapse of a once-bustling economy. However, Pompeo did not say what the United States would do in response to Russian troops.

U.S. President Donald Trump said in 2017 that the "military option" was on the table when it comes to Venezuela, but administration officials have since downplayed talk of armed intervention.

The Organization of American States, a Washington-based diplomatic group for hemispheric affairs, in a statement called the presence of Russian military equipment and personnel "a harmful act to Venezuelan sovereignty."

Bloomberg News, citing an unnamed Venezuelan information ministry official, reported that the officials had come to perform maintenance on Russian military equipment that Venezuela had purchased through bilateral accords.

The information ministry did not respond to requests for comment on the presence of the planes or the Bloomberg report.

"Such cynicism on the part of a country like the United States," wrote Venezuelan Foreign Minister Jorge Arreaza on Twitter. "(With) a growing military budget of more than $700 billion, it seeks to interfere with the technical military cooperation programs between Russia and Venezuela."

Russia has warned the United States and neighbors against a military intervention in Venezuela.

The Trump administration has imposed crippling sanctions on Venezuela's crucial oil industry. On Friday it sanctioned its development bank, Bandes, in efforts to choke off financial flows to Maduro's government and called on Venezuelan military leaders to abandon him.

Maduro has denounced the sanctions as U.S. intervention and maintains diplomatic backing from Russia, China and Cuba.

(Reporting by Lesley Wroughton in Washington and Brian Ellsworth in Caracas; Additional reporting by Luc Cohen in Caracas; Editing by Susan Thomas, Tom Brown and Lisa Shumaker)
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If you think Trump was doing fucked up shit before, just wait to see what he does now that he's been "exonerated". Big air quotes for that one.
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Washington has recognized opposition leader Juan Guaido as the country's legitimate president and demands that Maduro leave power, which Russia has described as a U.S.-backed coup against the socialist government.
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Serves venezuela right for being a "bow and arrow" conventional warfare country...those who sacrifice freedom for security deserve neither...
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Last I looked, VZ was not a European country and Russia was not part of the EU.

My guess is they did this as a private contractor and used 'retired' military officials.
Much like Crimea. Something they learned from the US in Iraq.
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Last I looked, VZ was not a European country and Russia was not part of the EU.

My guess is they did this as a private contractor and used 'retired' military officials.
Much like Crimea. Something they learned from the US in Iraq.
EU - it is a new Frankenstein union, European countries still the same as in 1823 during Monroe doctrine was creating. And if the US interfere in Europe, European countries interfere in America.
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it is, not private contractors, it is special forces. come talking with Maduro, after with Trump, with Guaido we already talking in the video above)) + we move medical aid over there
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[QUOTE=Sarn;22440698]EU - it is a new Frankenstein union, European countries still the same as in 1823 during Monroe doctrine was creating. And if the US interfere in Europe, European countries interfere in America.

it is, not private contractors, it is special forces. come talking with Maduro, after with Trump, with Guaido we already talking in the video above)) + we move medical aid over there

There are no Eu colonies in S America anymore ! They are independent states, except perhaps the Falkland Islands.

As I said, it was done as a Independent Contractor (from russia) to provide defense to the oil fields, so it is not a nation state invasion, or standing army.
Same as Crimea.
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conventional warfare is no longer an option...small countries can not waste their entire budgets just to keep americans out...what is left is:

1) live life bent over and get fucked like venezuela forever...
2) non conventional warfare...


it is not my "wish" it is a self fulfilling prophecy...the weak will arm up and do what ever it takes to keep invaders out...your safety and your opinion will be of no concern...
Yes, yes they just invite the other invades to take over their country by calling them "comrade" and letting the troops walk right in. This same tactic ended well for Afghanistan in the 80's and Syria most recently..
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Yes, yes they just invite the other invades to take over their country by calling them "comrade" and letting the troops walk right in. This same tactic ended well for Afghanistan in the 80's and Syria most recently..
this will all stop when we nuke/bacteria up you will spend your time obsessing about how not to make us angry silly of us to invest in schools and healthcare etc...nukes first, freedom second...
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this will all stop when we nuke/bacteria up you will spend your time obsessing about how not to make us angry silly of us to invest in schools and healthcare etc...nukes first, freedom second...

Every country Russia involves themselves with and calls a allies is a 3rd word shithole run by a dictatorship known for brutality.

This is what you call good govt..
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EU - it is a new Frankenstein union, European countries still the same as in 1823 during Monroe doctrine was creating. And if the US interfere in Europe, European countries interfere in America.

it is, not private contractors, it is special forces. come talking with Maduro, after with Trump, with Guaido we already talking in the video above)) + we move medical aid over there

There are no Eu colonies in S America anymore ! They are independent states, except perhaps the Falkland Islands.

As I said, it was done as a Independent Contractor (from russia) to provide defense to the oil fields, so it is not a nation state invasion, or standing army.
Same as Crimea.
Russia is doing too Venezuela the same thing China is doing to Africa to gain control of their ports.

I"ll repost this here in case you didn't read it earlier in the thread.

Special Report: Vladimir's Venezuela - Leveraging loans to Caracas, Moscow snaps up oil assets | Reuters

CARACAS/HOUSTON (Reuters) - Venezuela’s unraveling socialist government is increasingly turning to ally Russia for the cash and credit it needs to survive – and offering prized state-owned oil assets in return, sources familiar with the negotiations told Reuters.

As Caracas struggles to contain an economic meltdown and violent street protests, Moscow is using its position as Venezuela’s lender of last resort to gain more control over the OPEC nation’s crude reserves, the largest in the world.

Venezuela’s state-owned oil firm, Petroleos de Venezuela (PDVSA), has been secretly negotiating since at least early this year with Russia’s biggest state-owned oil company, Rosneft (ROSN.MM) - offering ownership interests in up to nine of Venezuela’s most productive petroleum projects, according to a top Venezuelan government official and two industry sources familiar with the talks.

Moscow has substantial leverage in the negotiations: Cash from Russia and Rosneft has been crucial in helping the financially strapped government of Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro avoid a sovereign debt default or a political coup.

Rosneft delivered Venezuela’s state-owned firm more than $1 billion in April alone in exchange for a promise of oil shipments later. On at least two occasions, the Venezuelan government has used Russian cash to avoid imminent defaults on payments to bondholders, a high-level PDVSA official told Reuters.

Rosneft has also positioned itself as a middleman in sales of Venezuelan oil to customers worldwide. Much of it ends up at refineries in the United States – despite U.S. sanctions against Russia – because it is sold through intermediaries such as oil trading firms, according to internal PDVSA trade reports seen by Reuters and a source at the firm.

PDVSA and the government of Venezuela did not respond to requests for comment.

The Russian government declined to comment and referred questions to the foreign ministry and the ministries of finance and defense, which did not respond to questions from Reuters. Rosneft declined to comment.

Russia’s growing control over Venezuelan crude gives it a stronger foothold in energy markets across the Americas. Rosneft now resells about 225,000 barrels per day (bpd) of Venezuelan oil - about 13 percent of the nation’s total exports, according to the PDVSA trade reports. That’s about enough to satisfy the daily demand of a country the size of Peru.

Venezuela gives Rosneft most of that oil as payment for billions of dollars in cash loans that Maduro’s government has already spent. His administration needs Russia’s money to finance everything from bond payments to imports of food and medicine amid severe national shortages.

For a graphic detailing the decline of Venezuela's oil industry, see: tmsnrt.rs/2fwsuCV

Venezuela’s opposition lawmakers say Russia is behaving more like a predator than an ally.

“Rosneft is definitely taking advantage of the situation,” said Elias Matta, vice president of the energy commission at Venezuela’s elected National Assembly. “They know this is a weak government; that it’s desperate for cash - and they’re sharks.”

Matta echoed many others in the opposition-majority congress who have blasted corporate deals they say are underpinning Maduro’s efforts to establish a dictatorship.

The Venezuelan government has said previously that Russia’s investment in its oil industry shows confidence in PDVSA’s financial stability and the nation’s business opportunities.

Maduro’s administration has grown increasingly dependent on Moscow in the past two years as China has curtailed credit to Venezuela because of payment delays and the corruption and crime faced by Chinese firms operating there, according to Venezuelan debt analysts and two oil industry sources.

Many multinational firms worldwide, meanwhile, have all but written off their Venezuelan operations amid the nation’s tanking economy and chronic shortages of raw materials.

Rosneft is making the opposite play - using Venezuela’s hard times as a buying opportunity for oil assets with potentially high long-term value.

“The Russians are catching Venezuela at rock bottom,” said one Western diplomat who has worked on issues involving Venezuela’s oil industry in recent years.

As other companies shutter operations here, Rosneft has expanded to an additional floor of its office tower and added staff. The Russian firm has poached PDVSA professionals and brought in more Russian executives, two sources close to Rosneft told Reuters.

The corporate expansion provides a striking contrast to the scene on the streets below these days, in the once-thriving business district of Caracas.

As Rosneft staffers work in swanky offices alongside posters of Russian President Vladimir Putin and a bust of Hugo Chavez - the late Venezuelan leader and socialist icon - crowds of young men outside often throw rocks and Molotov cocktails in escalating protests of Chavez’ successor.

Rosneft currently owns substantial portions of five major Venezuelan oil projects. The additional projects PDVSA is now offering the Russian firm include five in the Orinoco - Venezuela’s largest oil producing region – along with three in Maracaibo Lake, its second-largest and oldest producing area, and a shallow-water oil project in the Paria Gulf, the two industry sources told Reuters.

In a separate proposal first reported by Reuters last month, Rosneft would swap its collateral on 49.9 percent of Citgo [PDVSAC.UL] – the Venezuelan owned, U.S.-based refiner – for stakes in three additional PDVSA oil fields, two natural gas fields and a lucrative fuel supply contract, according to two sources with knowledge of the negotiations.
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There are no Eu colonies in S America anymore ! They are independent states, except perhaps the Falkland Islands.

As I said, it was done as a Independent Contractor (from russia) to provide defense to the oil fields, so it is not a nation state invasion, or standing army.
Same as Crimea.
We do not have colonies, I quoted Monroe doctrine before, let's repeat.
"At the same time, the doctrine noted that the U.S. would recognize and not interfere with existing European colonies nor meddle in the internal concerns of European countries."

It is not private(independent) contractors, it is official Russian army personnel.

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https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-ve...-idUKKCN1R72G7

Crimea always was Russian and our army did not leave from there since the 1783 year. It is very different.

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This is what you call good govt..
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You can invest in Venezuela real estate now, for understand risks such investments.
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This is what you call good govt..
Did you mom tell that you are a special one? I mean you have a very wierd brain, dude... When you say Russia, you mean Putin. So Putin and Russia are synonyms for you? If Putin does something, you assume that Russia does it too? Every Russian is a KGB spy, right? Every Russian steals billions of dollars every year and sends that money to his friends oligarchs, right? Every Russian kisses small boys in their naked bellies? Every Russian was investigated by police for thievery?

If so, let me associate Trump with America then. Yes, associate him with you motherfucker, with AIDSwire etc. So, according to your logic, can I say that every American is a friend of North Korea and every American loves when Russian prostitutes piss at his face?

Don't speak about Russia when you speak about your lovely Putin. Putin has official (official = fabricated by his pocket propaganda) approval rating in Russia ~ 30%. So even according to his own stats, at least 70% or Russians just hate him. I don't remember any political leader here with such a low official rating.
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This is what you call good govt..
invader, if we go democratic your invader country just buys our elections...democracy is not an option...quit pretending your country is not dumpster juice
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Если б твоя мадура вот так запросто ехала без охраны с танками, самолетами и национальной гвардией, ее бы местные вообще в рот выебали, обоссали а потом зарыли заживо. Помнишь как с Каддафи нехорошо вышло... или вошло?

Вот, кстати, тоже зачетный ролик

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Если б твоя мадура вот так запросто ехала без охраны с танками, самолетами и национальной гвардией, ее бы местные вообще в рот выебали, обоссали а потом зарыли заживо. Помнишь как с Каддафи нехорошо вышло... или вошло?

Вот, кстати, тоже зачетный ролик
maduro is still 100x better option than the western puppet...
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Если б твоя мадура вот так запросто ехала без охраны с танками, самолетами и национальной гвардией, ее бы местные вообще в рот выебали, обоссали а потом зарыли заживо. Помнишь как с Каддафи нехорошо вышло... или вошло?

Вот, кстати, тоже зачетный ролик
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Все верно. Вот и скажи своему путену, чтоб уебывал с Венесуэлы к себе куда-нибудь в бандитский Петербург нах. А мадуре твоей песда по любому
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Все верно. Вот и скажи своему путену, чтоб уебывал с Венесуэлы к себе куда-нибудь в бандитский Петербург нах. А мадуре твоей песда по любому
You know what will happen if we leave? This will have consequences for Venezuela and a loss investment for us (for Putin)

"Venezuela’s opposition lawmakers say Russia is behaving more like a predator than an ally."

"Cash from Russia and Rosneft has been crucial in helping the financially strapped government of Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro avoid a sovereign debt default or a political coup"

"Venezuela gives Rosneft most of that oil as payment for billions of dollars in cash loans that Maduro’s government has already spent. His administration needs Russia’s money to finance everything from bond payments to imports of food and medicine amid severe national shortages."
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Who are "we", clown? You haven't even been to army and now you say "we"? Ты совсем йобнутый, солдат диванных войск, бля? Да разберутся как-нибудь венесуэльцы без указаний путенских задротов, это их страна. Один хуй им хуже не будет, чем российским старикам, что жрут из помойки по вине путена (ты ж на него дрочишь сейчас?) который оказывает помощь твоей мадуре за их счет. Мадура значит нам сейчас дюже как интересна, а на россиян хуй положить, да?















Слава путену, слава партии жуликов и воров, йобта! И ты неверно реально удивляешься почему путена и вас - сочувствующих вся страна ненавидит?

З.Ы. Беспокоит мадура? Так покажи врачу ее, может что-то венерическое...
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Why doesn't the US just invade Venezuela , occupy it , and take all the Oil while saving the starving people.
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We will send you over there, you were in the army Will be hero
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Ты совсем йобнутый, солдат диванных войск, бля? Да разберутся как-нибудь венесуэльцы без указаний путенских задротов, это их страна. Один хуй им хуже не будет, чем российским старикам, что жрут из помойки по вине путена (ты ж на него дрочишь сейчас?) который оказывает помощь твоей мадуре за их счет. Мадура значит нам сейчас дюже как интересна, а на россиян хуй положить, да?

Слава путену, слава партии жуликов и воров, йобта! И ты неверно реально удивляешься почему путена и вас - сочувствующих скотов вся страна ненавидит?

З.Ы. Беспокоит мадура? Так покажи врачу ее, может что-то венерическое...
А деньги оттуда такие дауны как ты как потом будут забирать которые уже вложили? Ты не думал к хахлам переехать, там заповедник таких же идиотов как ты.
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А деньги оттуда такие дауны как ты как потом будут забирать которые уже вложили?
Как я? Ты клея опять обнюхался? Это же ты постом выше говоришь, что путен, сечин и т.д. - дауны. Ведь это ж они миллиарды долларов в Венесуэлу вбухали, не я. Путен, кстати, на панамские счета Ролдугина аж 2 миллиарда зелени скинул. Скоро там войну Панаме объявалят будете, клоуны диванные?

Ну а на Украину сам пиздуй. Не уедешь, так тебя скоро принудительно в фуфайке грузовым вагоном по этапу отправят - помяни мое слово...











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Why doesn't the US just invade Venezuela , occupy it , and take all the Oil while saving the starving people.
Because it can become a big problem for the USA in the region and it expensive.

Iraq war costs U.S. more than $2 trillion: study
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-i...92D0PG20130314


“5,000 troops to Colombia”: U.S. threats against Venezuela increase
https://www.peoplesworld.org/article...uela-increase/

ELN interview: Colombian Marxist guerrillas 'will fight' US troops if they invade Venezuela
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...ght-us-troops/

US to tighten financial restrictions on Cuba's military: Bolton
As Cuba continues to support Venezuela's Maduro, the US announces a number of punitive measures against the country
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