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2MuchMark · 06-10-2019, 10:48 AM

Could you take a look at this film clip and tell me what I am seeing?

And in images like these

These are all from the new Twilight Zone. The show and stories themselves are mostly OK with a couple of bad ones, but the photography of each episode just blows me away.

Can anyone describe the techniques that are being used to capture images like this? I am guessing that they are using giant lens for low light and depth of field, and some tweaking of the colours of course, but when watching the show it seems like alot more is going on.

If you wanted to shoot this how would you (re)create it?

SilentKnight · 06-10-2019, 01:40 PM

A third remake of this - first Shatner then John Lithgow.

Another Hollywood regurgitation.

Busty2 · 06-10-2019, 01:46 PM

This used to be more evident in 35mm film cameras. But by using a wide aperture and selective focus you can achieve this narrow depth of field . I think i still have a text book from college that had a table showing the depth of focus relating to depth of field and aperture for various lenses. Im sure these tables / graphs are still available online somewhere if you are interested?

Alexreal · 06-10-2019, 02:08 PM

That looks like a shot on a DSLR camera with wide aperture.

candyflip · 06-10-2019, 02:46 PM

That's an expensive camera (Arri) with expensive lenses, helmed by someone with years of experience and a crew of at least 100.

There's no one thing that's responsible for that image. You're looking at new camera tech, proven lens tech, lighting (both practical and off screen), skilled tradespeople with YEARS of experience, just for starters.

If what you're asking about is the bokeh effect you're seeing in all of these, it's just wide aperture shooting and a focus puller who's also paid his dues.

candyflip · 06-10-2019, 02:49 PM

Also...film and television productions don't do "low light". That shit is lit the fuck up and dialed back in post.

In all honesty, the entire "bokeh" blurred out look could be done in post as well. And not with all that much difficulty.

Grapesoda · 06-10-2019, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by 2MuchMark

Could you take a look at this film clip and tell me what I am seeing?

And in images like these

These are all from the new Twilight Zone. The show and stories themselves are mostly OK with a couple of bad ones, but the photography of each episode just blows me away.

Can anyone describe the techniques that are being used to capture images like this? I am guessing that they are using giant lens for low light and depth of field, and some tweaking of the colours of course, but when watching the show it seems like alot more is going on.

If you wanted to shoot this how would you (re)create it?

looks like a politically corrected sci fi with the music from sicario to me, shot low dof.... with fast glass, some telephoto. lots of color design and color manipulation going on with purposeful lighting, i.e. the story is being lit, not just the set. there are many crafts involved here as well as talented experienced people. good actors.

Bosa · 06-11-2019, 08:41 AM

2MuchMark · 06-11-2019, 08:53 AM

Thanks Candyflip and everyone else - these are the answers I was looking for.

Of course it's not just one "effect" - its the blur itself, plus the color grading, plus lighting, plus plus plus. The total effect to me though is absolutely beautiful.

The new Twilight Zone reboot is not that good so far. The stories start off good but in the 4 episodes I have seen so far each have a disappointing ending. That's too bad because the tension and intrigue that each episode builds on, plus the fucking-beautiful visuals really hook me.

If you haven't watched the show yet, try watching "Nightmare at 30000 feet". The ending will disappoint, but you will enjoy everything else. I've already watched it twice.

2MuchMark · 06-11-2019, 08:58 AM

Also I first noticed this effect ("bokeh effect") in another "plane" story, Non-Stop

though its not used nearly as much.

Grapesoda · 06-11-2019, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by 2MuchMark

Also I first noticed this effect ("bokeh effect") in another "plane" story, Non-Stop

though its not used nearly as much.

Mark there is nothing more beautiful than the work of a top notch cinematic crews working with great producers, directors and writers. chinese, korean, ukrainian, french, american, japanese etc..the only reason I watch films

06-10-2019, 10:48 AM	#1
2MuchMark Videochat Solutions Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 48,539	Question for Pro Photographers and Cinematographers Could you take a look at this film clip and tell me what I am seeing? And in images like these These are all from the new Twilight Zone. The show and stories themselves are mostly OK with a couple of bad ones, but the photography of each episode just blows me away. Can anyone describe the techniques that are being used to capture images like this? I am guessing that they are using giant lens for low light and depth of field, and some tweaking of the colours of course, but when watching the show it seems like alot more is going on. If you wanted to shoot this how would you (re)create it?

06-10-2019, 02:08 PM	#4
Alexreal Back to the business Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 514	That looks like a shot on a DSLR camera with wide aperture. __________________ Skype: alex_primorsky

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candyflip Carpe Visio Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: New York Posts: 43,052	That's an expensive camera (Arri) with expensive lenses, helmed by someone with years of experience and a crew of at least 100. There's no one thing that's responsible for that image. You're looking at new camera tech, proven lens tech, lighting (both practical and off screen), skilled tradespeople with YEARS of experience, just for starters. If what you're asking about is the bokeh effect you're seeing in all of these, it's just wide aperture shooting and a focus puller who's also paid his dues. __________________ Spend you some brain. Email Me

06-10-2019, 02:49 PM	#6
candyflip Carpe Visio Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: New York Posts: 43,052	Also...film and television productions don't do "low light". That shit is lit the fuck up and dialed back in post. In all honesty, the entire "bokeh" blurred out look could be done in post as well. And not with all that much difficulty. __________________ Spend you some brain. Email Me

06-11-2019, 08:41 AM	#8
Bosa Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Europe Posts: 4,325	Color Grading and Shallow depth of field

06-10-2019, 01:40 PM	#2
SilentKnight Megan Fox's fluffer Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: shooting pool in Elysium Posts: 24,818	A third remake of this - first Shatner then John Lithgow. Another Hollywood regurgitation.

06-10-2019, 01:46 PM	#3
Busty2 Member since 1999 Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Off the Amalfi coast Posts: 7,202	This used to be more evident in 35mm film cameras. But by using a wide aperture and selective focus you can achieve this narrow depth of field . I think i still have a text book from college that had a table showing the depth of focus relating to depth of field and aperture for various lenses. Im sure these tables / graphs are still available online somewhere if you are interested?

06-11-2019, 08:53 AM	#9
2MuchMark Videochat Solutions Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 48,539	Thanks Candyflip and everyone else - these are the answers I was looking for. Of course it's not just one "effect" - its the blur itself, plus the color grading, plus lighting, plus plus plus. The total effect to me though is absolutely beautiful. The new Twilight Zone reboot is not that good so far. The stories start off good but in the 4 episodes I have seen so far each have a disappointing ending. That's too bad because the tension and intrigue that each episode builds on, plus the fucking-beautiful visuals really hook me. If you haven't watched the show yet, try watching "Nightmare at 30000 feet". The ending will disappoint, but you will enjoy everything else. I've already watched it twice.

06-11-2019, 08:58 AM	#10
2MuchMark Videochat Solutions Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 48,539	Also I first noticed this effect ("bokeh effect") in another "plane" story, Non-Stop though its not used nearly as much.