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Old 12-01-2019, 12:18 PM   #1
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Ice preserved a tiny puppy in near-perfect condition for 18,000 years



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Old 12-01-2019, 03:15 PM   #2
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They should clone it...see if it produces a dog or wolf.
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Old 12-02-2019, 05:27 PM   #3
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They should clone it...see if it produces a dog or wolf.
They're all wolves... especially then.
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From Pekingese to St. Bernard and greyhound, dogs come in such startling variety it's easy to forget they belong to the same species. The profusion of breeds today -- at least 150 -- reflects intense, purposeful interbreeding of dogs in the past 150 years.

One consequence of interbreeding to create purebreds with sharply individual traits is that many disease-causing genes have become concentrated in these breeds. Because of the growing concern about health problems and the availability of powerful methods to hunt genes, scientists are hard at work on the "dog genome project." As with the Human Genome Project, the goal is to locate and map canine genes, particularly those that play a role in disease. Genes that influence behavior are also of great interest.

At the same time, the entire history of dogs and their relationship with humans has undergone some rethinking recently, thanks in large part to high-tech molecular dating methods that can determine evolutionary relationships and chronologies.

The dog, Canis familiaris, is a direct descendent of the gray wolf, Canis lupus: In other words, dogs as we know them are domesticated wolves. Not only their behavior changed; domestic dogs are different in form from wolves, mainly smaller and with shorter muzzles and smaller teeth.

Darwin was wrong about dogs. He thought their remarkable diversity must reflect interbreeding with several types of wild dogs. But the DNA findings say differently. All modern dogs are descendants of wolves, though this domestication may have happened twice, producing groups of dogs descended from two unique common ancestors.

(humans mated with Neanderthal's twice apparently about maybe 100K years apart. the Neanderthals mated with humans before leaving Africa and then again when humans left African possibly)

How and when this domestication happened has been a matter of speculation. It was thought until very recently that dogs were wild until about 12,000 years ago. But DNA analysis published in 1997 suggests a date of about 130,000 years ago for the transformation of wolves to dogs. This means that wolves began to adapt to human society long before humans settled down and began practicing agriculture.

(modern humans go back 300K years possibly more.)

This earlier timing casts doubt on the long-held myth that humans domesticated dogs to serve as guards or companions to assist them. Rather, say some experts, dogs may have exploited a niche they discovered in early human society and got humans to take them in out of the cold.
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my guy although he's gained about 20-25 lbs since this pic, he's 185-190 lb now, maybe 165 lb in the pic

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my guy although he's gained about 20-25 lbs since this pic, he's 185-190 lb now, maybe 165 lb in the pic

That's a whole lot of dog. What does his diet consist of?
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That's a whole lot of dog. What does his diet consist of?
kibbles, was using royan canan large breed. the kibbles are large about 1/2 he ate about 4 cups a day. now I feeding him costco old dog.... he's still eating about 2 cups a day mixed with a pouch and 1/2 of Moist & Meaty Burger with Cheddar Cheese Flavor Dry Dog Food. he's losing some fat and gaining muscle. seems to be doing good, less yeast in his ears. plus he get 2 or 3 snacks a day. like a greenie etc...
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