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Old 10-23-2019, 10:56 AM   #1
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SpizCash revshare 50% - unless they buy an expensive membership

SpizCash / Spizoo revshare is 50%... kind of... only for cheap joins.

When someone pays for a more expensive membership, they'll cut your affiliate commission.

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Old 10-23-2019, 12:33 PM   #2
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The third one should say $40 instead of $45.
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Old 10-23-2019, 01:17 PM   #3
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Sign of the dimes :/ ? ?
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Old 10-25-2019, 03:41 AM   #4
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Damn that sucks..
Is this brand new?
I got 2 yearly membership signups last month and I got paid 50% for those ($59.94 of $119.88)
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Old 10-25-2019, 09:44 AM   #5
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Just looked and see the varying commissions for every site, for every price point.

HOWEVER, checking those against the join pages, many of the options are not presented.
(By which I mean that a ridiculously low pps lifetime payout is listed in the details for a 50% revshare link, but is not presented as an option on the join page.)

Just playing Devil's advocate here, but can anyone confirm getting screwed by this?
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Old 10-25-2019, 12:57 PM   #6
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Could these payout changes have anything to do with the recent passing of Jessica Jaymes, who was part owner of the business?
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Old 10-26-2019, 02:11 PM   #7
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We have several programs some are revshare and others are PPS if the affiliates are promoting reshare program but the member select to buy a PPS option instead of a reshare program the commission for affiliate on this situation is set up as PPS instead revshare also the programs PPS is not for all affiliates only a selected affiliates for this programs and in the program we use to set the prices NATS is no possible avoid that a member can buy another different price that the link is showing.
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Old 10-26-2019, 02:21 PM   #8
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SpizCash / Spizoo revshare is 50%... kind of... only for cheap joins.

When someone pays for a more expensive membership, they'll cut your affiliate commission.

We have several programs some are revshare and others are PPS if the affiliates are promoting reshare program but the member select to buy a PPS option instead of a reshare program the commission for affiliate on this situation is set up as PPS instead revshare also the programs PPS is not for all affiliates only a selected affiliates for this programs and in the program we use to set the prices NATS is no possible avoid that a member can buy another different price that the link is showing.
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Old 10-27-2019, 11:40 PM   #9
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We have several programs some are revshare and others are PPS if the affiliates are promoting reshare program but the member select to buy a PPS option instead of a reshare program the commission for affiliate on this situation is set up as PPS instead revshare also the programs PPS is not for all affiliates only a selected affiliates for this programs and in the program we use to set the prices NATS is no possible avoid that a member can buy another different price that the link is showing.
I try to read it several times, but it doesn't make any sense.

If affiliate promotes you via 50% revshare, you should pay 50% for all join options.

It's not relevant whether that price point was supposed to show or not.
The last affiliate was the reason the visitor bought a $400 membership. You made that money because of him. So why not pay him his fair share?

Other programs don't do this.
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Old 10-28-2019, 04:26 AM   #10
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We have several programs some are revshare and others are PPS if the affiliates are promoting reshare program but the member select to buy a PPS option instead of a reshare program the commission for affiliate on this situation is set up as PPS instead revshare also the programs PPS is not for all affiliates only a selected affiliates for this programs and in the program we use to set the prices NATS is no possible avoid that a member can buy another different price that the link is showing.
hehe is the comma and punctuation mark button broke on your keyboard?
Hopefully someone else can translate the message you wrote 😅
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Old 11-18-2019, 02:49 PM   #11
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BigFurry we would like to thank you for bringing this to our attention, this was a major over site on our part.

The $400 lifetime and $799 lifetime should never have been launched to affiliates to promote, this was an internal promotion only. We have removed these price points from SpizCash!

Our program pays a 50% revshare for the life of all sales and we have a PPS set for each partner based on a minimum which can increase based on performance. On SpizCash we list a $25 PPS for all sales, which can be increased, as well as your revshare.

With that being said, we see that for the 18 months / $90 promo pricing, we have it listed at $40 PPS and not $45 PPS to start. This is something that we are fixing to be listed at $45 PPS, going forward.

We always welcome input from affiliates and if there is ever an issue that comes up, please contact us directly so we can resolve things quickly. It is our job to provide a product that converts and we are here to make sure that you are always taken care of!

Please let us know if there is anything you need.

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Old 11-26-2019, 05:31 AM   #12
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BigFurry we would like to thank you for bringing this to our attention, this was a major over site on our part.

The $400 lifetime and $799 lifetime should never have been launched to affiliates to promote, this was an internal promotion only. We have removed these price points from SpizCash!
Appreciate it, but I just checked and the affiliate payout changes displayed on the screenshot are still there in NATS.

To be sure that we DO get credited 50% if the lifetime ever gets offered (even by mistake), the affiliate payout changes should be completely removed.
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Old 11-26-2019, 11:42 AM   #13
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Yes if the Lifetime is every offered, which it will not be. But we will make sure everyone is credited the 50%.

Also, if any affiliate has made a lifetime sale during the period of the mistake. Please notify us of that sale, we will review it in the stats and pay out the remaining %.

We do not believe any affiliates converted the lifetime sale during this time, but we will make sure affiliates are taken care of.

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Old 11-26-2019, 12:45 PM   #14
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Yes if the Lifetime is every offered, which it will not be. But we will make sure everyone is credited the 50%.

Also, if any affiliate has made a lifetime sale during the period of the mistake. Please notify us of that sale, we will review it in the stats and pay out the remaining %.

We do not believe any affiliates converted the lifetime sale during this time, but we will make sure affiliates are taken care of.

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Old 11-26-2019, 01:07 PM   #15
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hey Nikki,

thank you. the wrong account was used for the post

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Old 01-12-2020, 12:51 PM   #16
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Looks like affiliates aren't paid when a yearly membership rebills.



Is this a mistake too or intentional?
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I think it's pretty clear these are random testing price points and as an affiliate your surfer will not be presented with any of those options.

There is no drama here, only a misunderstanding of the nats price point commission table (which probably shouldn't be accessible to affiliates).
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I think it's pretty clear these are random testing price points and as an affiliate your surfer will not be presented with any of those options.

There is no drama here, only a misunderstanding of the nats price point commission table (which probably shouldn't be accessible to affiliates).
No, all of the above had real affiliate transactions happen with the lower-than-50% or 0% commission.

It's possible that they didn't mean for the lifetime offer to appear to affiliates, but the rest can't be explained that way.

And even for the lifetime, it's wrong to set it to 0%. If it never appears for affiliates, you don't need to set it to 0%.
And if it accidentally DOES appear for affiliates for some reason, the right thing is to pay them for the sale.

The NATS price table is one of the best things about NATS in my opinion. I know how to read it, and most programs don't put tricky stuff like this in it.
Transparency makes NATS a trusted platform for affiliates. I won't promote most custom platforms where the owners can do whatever they want.
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Old 01-12-2020, 02:38 PM   #19
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No, all of the above had real affiliate transactions happen with the lower-than-50% or 0% commission.
You see these in your stats?
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Old 01-12-2020, 02:58 PM   #20
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You see these in your stats?
Yes.

The only ones harder to find are the $0 rebills. They won't show directly under your rebills.

But find all the original yearly $60 joins from the last 2 years. (The $60 yearly are the ones they have added this custom NATS payout rule for.)
Check out the detailed member info / transaction log for them. Some rebilled after a year, some didn't.

If they had rebilled you'll see that you were credited $30 for the join. And a rebill transaction too, with $0 affiliate commissions.
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