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Old 01-29-2020, 08:48 PM   #1
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what do you guys think of a flat tax?

say 18%, with no tax for the first 30K per year FOR EVERYBODY. I haven't been able to find out if that covers everything or just fed, still need to pay disability, SSI? State? I was paying a total of about 54% so it seem like a good deal but what is hidden? any thoughts? any information?
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Old 01-29-2020, 10:03 PM   #2
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I don't think flat girls should have to pay any more tax then big boobie girls.

Sounds like discrimination to me

All boobs should be taxed equally!!

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My heart missed a beat when I thought you said 'Fat Tax'...

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Old 01-30-2020, 03:31 AM   #4
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I just did my wife's taxes she brought in 102k last year as a rn. Her tax rate was 8.75% after current standard deductions. Some how she is getting a refund of $3900. So anyone making under 102k a year a tax of 18% would be a increase. Even if you add ssi and disability i would assume her tax rate would be under 18% but i would have to do the math to verify.
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Old 01-30-2020, 07:38 AM   #5
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Paying taxes is part of living in a modern, civilised country. Do you want social healthcare, education, unemployment, pensions, road, fire services, police, military, etc and all the things that go along with keeping you safe and secure?

What's wrong is giant corporation getting away with paying little, then exporting jobs, paying minimum wage, low skilled immigrants keeping down wage, etc.
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Old 01-30-2020, 07:44 AM   #6
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I just did my wife's taxes she brought in 102k last year as a rn. Her tax rate was 8.75% after current standard deductions. Some how she is getting a refund of $3900. So anyone making under 102k a year a tax of 18% would be a increase. Even if you add ssi and disability i would assume her tax rate would be under 18% but i would have to do the math to verify.
with this table below you still need to add SSI, Disability and State. at least if I remember correctly, and this is on the net. not the gross. with a flat tax there are no deductions. just a straight %

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Old 01-30-2020, 07:48 AM   #7
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Paying taxes is part of living in a modern, civilised country. Do you want social healthcare, education, unemployment, pensions, road, fire services, police, military, etc and all the things that go along with keeping you safe and secure?

What's wrong is giant corporation getting away with paying little, then exporting jobs, paying minimum wage, low skilled immigrants keeping down wage, etc.
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Flat taxes and consumption taxes are generally unfair. That 18% is a far greater portion of a working person's wealth than that of a billionaire etc.
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Old 01-30-2020, 12:42 PM   #9
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Shouldn't this be in the Politics area?
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My heart missed a beat when I thought you said 'Fat Tax'...

I would have been COMPLETELY fucked !
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Old 01-30-2020, 01:08 PM   #12
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Flat taxes and consumption taxes are generally unfair. That 18% is a far greater portion of a working person's wealth than that of a billionaire etc.
I prefer it versus someone arbitrarily deciding how much income is "too much" and needs to be taxed higher (fair share???)... At least america is capped at 37%, many other countries that number just keeps climbing.
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Old 01-30-2020, 02:03 PM   #13
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say 18%, with no tax for the first 30K per year FOR EVERYBODY. I haven't been able to find out if that covers everything or just fed, still need to pay disability, SSI? State? I was paying a total of about 54% so it seem like a good deal but what is hidden? any thoughts? any information?
The issues with our tax system is more of what is income. No deductions? That would be great, but obviously businesses get to deduct costs etc and we are right back into the mess.

The other sides we need to pay taxes so the take has to be the same. Who is going to pay more is the question?
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Old 01-30-2020, 03:09 PM   #14
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nope the political area is not for discussion, only there to slander trump
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The issues with our tax system is more of what is income. No deductions? That would be great, but obviously businesses get to deduct costs etc and we are right back into the mess.

The other sides we need to pay taxes so the take has to be the same. Who is going to pay more is the question?
it's a mess but some how they always figure it to money the political. the 3 richest counties in American are around Washington DC, an area with no industry except politics
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Do you want to pay less tax and higher debt? Or see the private sector take over more or just do away with things that go to make a modern civilised country?

Will your flat rate of tax raise what the country needs?

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Poland has flat 19% income tax but the standard deduction is a joke at like $700-800usd
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If you are looking to pays less tax i invite you to travel to live in Africa or Asia, most of thier contry don`t pay taxes
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If you are looking to pays less tax i invite you to travel to live in Africa or Asia, most of thier contry don`t pay taxes
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Poland has flat 19% income tax but the standard deduction is a joke at like $700-800usd
what about SSI and disability and 'state' taxes? the last year I made big bucks I paid 53%
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If you are looking to pays less tax i invite you to travel to live in Africa or Asia, most of thier contry don`t pay taxes
don't care for Asia as a place to live, as far as Africa... we already left once
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