Educational Why GFY is dying even though it shouldn't be

[ptubes]

GFY Is Almost Dead

This is a fact. Most of you will not want to get into acceptance of it, but pull up similarweb and look at the traffic trends for the past several months and couple years.... Numbers do not lie.

This, in spite of the fact that by all outside indications, the forum should be busier than ever!

• There are more adult Websites than ever before
• There are more adult webasters now than at any point in history
• there are FEWER adult webaster forums than ever before
• Forums are still huge in the webmaster and affiliate sector
• there are THOUSANDS of adult webmasters that can be found in the other (non-adult) forums that never come here

So, Porn is Definitely not dead, Forums are not dead, and affiliate marketing is not dead, but GFY visitors counts continue to plummet despite even less cometition?

It has to do with the way it is run...

I can only speak for myself, so I'll just provide some insight in to why I Personally rarely come here, even though I am primarily an adult webmaster, I visit BlackHatWorld daily (or more) and am very active on several other forums as well (that are webmaster but not adult webmaster, such as this one)... T

If these things are that repellant to a forum junkie like me (who literally forces myself on here from time to time to give it another shot) it's a safe bet at least some of these things (if not all of them) are what is chasing people away in droves:

Bad User interface - inconvenient and cumbersome to use even on desktop let alone mobile, and extremely outdated

Time limit between search queries - VERY annoying and a time waster... you're not losing anything with someone performing 2 searches within 30 seconds - that's a ridiculous restriction. have yet to see that at any other forum in the 10 years I have been a daily user of them.. If there are no results or perhaps one were to make a typo, that 30 second wait to submit another query is almost a guarantee most people will leave the site

REALLY slow searching, with the SAME chaturbate ad as an intersitial - comes across as cheap, and considering most of your visitors are adult webmasters/affiliates who are already part of the chaturbate affiliate program, who do you think you're pitching to?

Too many Trump loving "red hats" posting right wing political nonsense and racist shit - if you don't put a lid on that it'll turn into 4chan

Ridiculous milestone requirements - 100 posts to send a PM? stupid.. I've heard of 5 post minimum, I've even heard of 25 post minimum - but 100? considering how repellent you make the process in comparison to other forums? most people are not going to stick around a community that makes them feel unwelcome - and that is precisely what that does from a user perspective


I fully expect a few people to get uppity and defensive, whatever, that's your prerogative - but these are facts....

Hopefully this can just serve as some helpful advice, maybe you will get a thing or two out of it to help improve the forum so it can actually continue to exist for another year or two or more

[Brian mike]

GTFO ?

[Brit in Cambodia]

Black hat world is a shit show, where the Mods read your private messages! Its full of third world Indian gurus I don't know a single big player who spends any amount of time on there. Builder society (successor to wicked fire)is full of knowledgable people but for adult GFY is still the best place to go as there as still knowledgable people on here.

10 - 15 years ago people use to mock digital point for being full of Indians now BHW has turned into digital point.

[nikki99]

Originally Posted by Brian mike

GTFO ?

[SekobA]

you better pray to not get banned.

I still visit almost every day.

[The Porn Nerd]

Did not read but GFY babe.

[celandina]

GTFO x 3 and

[mikeylikesit]

sounds like somebody has a bad case of more shattered dreams

[candyflip]

Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd

Did not read but GFY babe.

Do you have an email address I can reach you at. Haven't used ICQ in years.

[The Porn Nerd]

Originally Posted by candyflip

Do you have an email address I can reach you at. Haven't used ICQ in years.

Sure: porn nerd cash AT gmail

[CurrentlySober]

i like poo

[OneHungLo]

Ptubes: "Our "president" is a babboon"

So you're Ok with shitlibs like yourself crying about Trump, but how dare anyone support him?

You're clearly biased..but I do agree with the some of your post. There are quite a few things you listed that could improve.

[the Shemp]

more shattered dreams ...

[badgirlfilms]

Originally Posted by ptubes

GFY Is Almost Dead

This is a fact. Most of you will not want to get into acceptance of it, but pull up similarweb and look at the traffic trends for the past several months and couple years.... Numbers do not lie.

This, in spite of the fact that by all outside indications, the forum should be busier than ever!

• There are more adult Websites than ever before
• There are more adult webasters now than at any point in history
• there are FEWER adult webaster forums than ever before
• Forums are still huge in the webmaster and affiliate sector
• there are THOUSANDS of adult webmasters that can be found in the other (non-adult) forums that never come here

So, Porn is Definitely not dead, Forums are not dead, and affiliate marketing is not dead, but GFY visitors counts continue to plummet despite even less cometition?

It has to do with the way it is run...

I can only speak for myself, so I'll just provide some insight in to why I Personally rarely come here, even though I am primarily an adult webmaster, I visit BlackHatWorld daily (or more) and am very active on several other forums as well (that are webmaster but not adult webmaster, such as this one)... T

If these things are that repellant to a forum junkie like me (who literally forces myself on here from time to time to give it another shot) it's a safe bet at least some of these things (if not all of them) are what is chasing people away in droves:

Bad User interface - inconvenient and cumbersome to use even on desktop let alone mobile, and extremely outdated

Time limit between search queries - VERY annoying and a time waster... you're not losing anything with someone performing 2 searches within 30 seconds - that's a ridiculous restriction. have yet to see that at any other forum in the 10 years I have been a daily user of them.. If there are no results or perhaps one were to make a typo, that 30 second wait to submit another query is almost a guarantee most people will leave the site

REALLY slow searching, with the SAME chaturbate ad as an intersitial - comes across as cheap, and considering most of your visitors are adult webmasters/affiliates who are already part of the chaturbate affiliate program, who do you think you're pitching to?

Too many Trump loving "red hats" posting right wing political nonsense and racist shit - if you don't put a lid on that it'll turn into 4chan

Ridiculous milestone requirements - 100 posts to send a PM? stupid.. I've heard of 5 post minimum, I've even heard of 25 post minimum - but 100? considering how repellent you make the process in comparison to other forums? most people are not going to stick around a community that makes them feel unwelcome - and that is precisely what that does from a user perspective


I fully expect a few people to get uppity and defensive, whatever, that's your prerogative - but these are facts....

Hopefully this can just serve as some helpful advice, maybe you will get a thing or two out of it to help improve the forum so it can actually continue to exist for another year or two or more

I can agree with most of this, besides the Trump hating..you lost me there.

[ezgirl]

Red hat Blue hat - I prefer none, I come here for biz related purposes but have stopped coming for anything. Too much stupid stuff.

SEARCH FEATURE - dead, why do I come here at all if I can't search for info I want?

[Goethe]

A better forum software and search would be good

[AdultRanks]

Agreed UI is a little outdated.

Being a bit more mobile friendly and a more functional search feature could greatly improve the experience on this forum.

[sarettah]

This place was good enough for my grandfather, it's good enough for me.



dammit.


.

[sonofsam]

The thing is that this place isn't really used for business anymore. People who have been here a long time use it as a social network, a brain dump and political forum.

Why do you think sponsors don't skin the site anymore? It doesn't lead to money generating affiliates.

I'm sure there will be people who will say "I do a ton of business here! I have made tons of money in the background because of gfy!" but they are the tiny minority. The fact is the majority of people here are not making money, and just come here to reconnect with people in the industry or banter with their cyber friends.. maybe it's a nostalgic thing.

It's going to keep on dying and real webmasters will continue to migrate to more business oriented forums and still stop by here time to time to see this site dying.

Take a look at the main forum every day. It's spammed by currentlysober making the exact same "joke" every day talking about poo. If this site wasn't bleeding members he would have been removed or told to stop, but they cant afford to lose any more members.. and the added number of "daily posts" inflated by idiots like him help sucker what little advertisers they have left by making the site appear more active than it is. Do you think they tell advertisers they have "x number of business ports a day" or "x number of posts a day" ?

[AmeliaG]

Pretty much everything OP said is inaccurate.

GFY is useful for business.

There are way fewer adult web sites and fewer adult webmasters now.

I used to sell tons of site skins on my non-adult properties to major motion pictures. But site skins dried up as mobile share of visitors increased. Skins are not useful on mobile.

Lastly, unlike some places depending on rage refreshes for views, GFY put all the political BS in a subforum where you only have to be bothered if you are making the choice to go there.

[The Porn Nerd]

GFY was supposedly "dying" the day I joined. LOL

Right around the time Paul Markham et al were saying the Adult business was dying and I was a fool to get into it because it was a race to zero.

I don't listen to people.
Cha-ching!

[OneHungLo]

Originally Posted by AmeliaG

Lastly, unlike some places depending on rage refreshes for views, GFY put all the political BS in a subforum where you only have to be bothered if you are making the choice to go there.

Exactly. They did a good job quarantining all the political shit to its very own subforum.

Ptubes is biased and has a bad case of TDS

[CaptainHowdy]

I died a little today . . .

[ruff]

I come for the tits.

[NewbieNudes]

Originally Posted by ptubes

Time limit between search queries - VERY annoying and a time waster... you're not losing anything with someone performing 2 searches within 30 seconds - that's a ridiculous restriction. have yet to see that at any other forum in the 10 years I have been a daily user of them.. If there are no results or perhaps one were to make a typo, that 30 second wait to submit another query is almost a guarantee most people will leave the site

This point is completely valid - we don't need a time limit restriction on searches, or if there has to be one it should be like 5 or 10 seconds.

[adultchatpay]

I agree on some point specially the UI part. Viewing GFY in mobile device is a total garbage.
But still GFY is the best adult forum in the world wide web.

[AmeliaG]

Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd

GFY was supposedly "dying" the day I joined. LOL

Right around the time Paul Markham et al were saying the Adult business was dying and I was a fool to get into it because it was a race to zero.

I don't listen to people.
Cha-ching!

[mce]

Most IM forums are DEAD

But that doesn't mean people don't make money from them through B2B deals

The era of high volume low value churn/burn IM deals ala WarriorForum are over...

I still make money off GFY and other forums. People ARE still making money off Internet Marketing (whether it be adult or mainstream).

[Markul]

Slowest death in history then.

[Look Chang]

Slow agony ...

[EddyTheDog]

You used to be able to use Google to search - It was much better - For some reason they have dropped most of the site from the index though.....

It's still worth a try though if you are really stuck - Search for - site:*.gfy.com [keyword] [keyword]...

[CurrentlySober]

Originally Posted by EddyTheDog

You used to be able to use Google to search - It was much better - For some reason they have dropped most of the site from the index though.....

It's still worth a try though if you are really stuck - Search for - site:*.com [keyword] [keyword]...

yup, most of its gone... when i search:

site:gfy.com "i like poo"

i only get ' About 115 results (0.27 seconds) ' - Ive poosted i like poo much more than 115 times...

[CurrentlySober]

i like poo (116)

[Vendzilla]

We were told with the new owners , change was coming.
Sounded like a political promise and yet here we are, nothing really changed. Go figure.
There are less porn sites as solo girls and tgps and other kinds of sites became less or zero profitable.
Big businesses running tubes and clip selling sites have taken over. I'm sure webcams are doing well.
GFY needs to be changed in a big way, management can contact me if they want to know how.

[Darth_Porn]

I think it's because the way the industry is promoted has changed quite a bit. Most of my affiliates today use farmed FB and Insta accounts and they just don't bother coming on this site for info. This is for us older folks

[DraX]

Originally Posted by ptubes

posting right wing political nonsense and racist shit

Give me example of the nonsense you refer to, would also help if you could refer to the racist shit you found?

Perhabs it's just you who doesn't like other opinions?

[fuzebox]

Originally Posted by NewbieNudes

This point is completely valid - we don't need a time limit restriction on searches, or if there has to be one it should be like 5 or 10 seconds.

In 2004 they had to implement the time restriction because you could crash the site by searching

[EddyTheDog]

Originally Posted by CurrentlySober

yup, most of its gone... when i search:



i only get ' About 115 results (0.27 seconds) ' - Ive poosted i like poo much more than 115 times...

I only get 46 results - But look who the first person you talk to is! - Little old me ...

[CurrentlySober]

Originally Posted by EddyTheDog

I only get 46 results - But look who the first person you talk to is! - Little old me ...

Quick ! Add that your are OFFICIALLY Number One in Google to your sig, and when questioned, reference this poost for proof!

[The Porn Nerd]

Originally Posted by EddyTheDog

I only get 46 results - But look who the first person you talk to is! - Little old me ...

Did you use a VPN? If not those results are probably tailored to you specifically.

I did a search for i like poo gfy and saw zero results on the first 4 pages. Mostly GIF sites like this one:
https://gfycat.com/giddyvariablebettong

GFY needs some SEO attention methinks.

[GAMEFINEST]

Gfy til i die ! lol

[sonofsam]

Originally Posted by Vendzilla

We were told with the new owners , change was coming.
Sounded like a political promise and yet here we are, nothing really changed. Go figure.
There are less porn sites as solo girls and tgps and other kinds of sites became less or zero profitable.
Big businesses running tubes and clip selling sites have taken over. I'm sure webcams are doing well.
GFY needs to be changed in a big way, management can contact me if they want to know how.

just stfu

[adultinnovation]

Originally Posted by ptubes

So, Porn is Definitely not dead, Forums are not dead, and affiliate marketing

compared to when? It is completely dead compared to years ago

[Tasty1]

A new forum will come, but is in motion.

[EddyTheDog]

Originally Posted by Tasty1

A new forum will come, but is in motion.

Oh fuck, it's that bad - It's been nice knowing you guys...

[Look Chang]

Originally Posted by ruff

I come for the tits.

and the slits...

[Kittens]

Ahhhh a 2020 "GFY is dying/dead" post. These are ritualistic posts every year since I first started viewing this board in 2003.

[CurrentlySober]

Originally Posted by Kittens

Ahhhh a 2020 "GFY is dying/dead" post. These are ritualistic posts every year since I first started viewing this board in 2003.

Amen.

Always from people who think GFY is dying, because GFY isn't exactly what THEY want it to be...

Yet the multitude of us, who embrace GFY for what it actually IS, seem to be perfectly happy...

Sigh...

[RyuLion]

Originally Posted by EddyTheDog

Oh fuck, it's that bad - It's been nice knowing you guys...

I think you misunderstood him.

[babeterminal]

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