Face masks are retarded and do not work.

[Hawkeye]

Your disposable cotton and paper masks are useless.

Even worse, the cloth masks that everybody is wearing are actually dangerous and facilitiate the transmission of KungFlu.

The only masks that work are "medical masks and respirators", as pictured below. Everything else is useless.



Published in the Journal of Clinical Infectious Diseases, Volume 65, Issue 11, 1 December 2017:

Effectiveness of Masks and Respirators Against Respiratory Infections in Healthcare Workers: A Systematic Review and Meta-Analysis

Conclusions

Our analysis confirms the effectiveness of medical masks and respirators against SARS. Disposable, cotton, or paper masks are not recommended.

...medical masks are preferable to cloth masks, for which there is no evidence of protection and which might facilitate transmission of pathogens when used repeatedly without adequate sterilization.

[The Porn Nerd]

Hey whatever makes you sleep at night bro. Justify not weaing one - then catch the Covid there in Los Angeles where the numbers are spiking. Smart!

Social distancing and washing your hands can cause cancer of the skin, hands and fingers and lead to depression, anxiety and fear of others.

Roll the dice baby!!

[wehateporn]

[BigFurry]

Countries with Early Adoption of Face Masks Showed Modest COVID-19 Infection Rates

In “COVID-19 and Public Interest in Face Mask Use,” researchers from the Chinese University of Hong Kong shared findings from their analysis of how public interest in face masks may have affected the severity of COVID-19 epidemics and potentially contained the outbreak in 42 countries in 6 continents.
https://www.thoracic.org/about/newsr...tion-rates.php


Mask test with disposable mask: https://i.insider.com/5efcc0e35af6cc...eg&aut o=webp
Another: https://ibb.co/hf6nXPy
Full article: https://www.insider.com/microbiologi...navirus-2020-7


Simple aerosol mask test video with different masks - shows that even cheap disposable SURGICAL masks have a big effect: https://imgur.com/CIT9q9y

Will they filter 100%? No. Will they stop big water droplets from reaching other people? Yes.

[wehateporn]

[Rochard]

Common sense tells you that every barrier between your mouth and your nose and any potential source of the virus can prevent you from getting the virus.

Is it full proof? Most likely not. But I am wearing a mask and you are wearing a mask and there six feet of distance between us... Odds are you won't get it.

[The Porn Nerd]

Originally Posted by BigFurry

Countries with Early Adoption of Face Masks Showed Modest COVID-19 Infection Rates

In “COVID-19 and Public Interest in Face Mask Use,” researchers from the Chinese University of Hong Kong shared findings from their analysis of how public interest in face masks may have affected the severity of COVID-19 epidemics and potentially contained the outbreak in 42 countries in 6 continents.
https://www.thoracic.org/about/newsr...tion-rates.php


Mask test with disposable mask: https://i.insider.com/5efcc0e35af6cc...eg&aut o=webp
Another: https://ibb.co/hf6nXPy
Full article: https://www.insider.com/microbiologi...navirus-2020-7


Simple aerosol mask test video with different masks - shows that even cheap disposable SURGICAL masks have a big effect: https://imgur.com/CIT9q9y

Will they filter 100%? No. Will they stop big water droplets from reaching other people? Yes.

Don't start bringing up facts man! Stop it with the common sense and scientific data. This is 'Merica!!! Wearing a mask is for weaklings, losers and Dem damn liberals!

I'm a REAL MAN DAMMIT and no amount of common sense, data, intelligence or facts is going to change that - cough, cough - so just save your - cough, cough - breath, ok?

[Hawkeye]

Originally Posted by BigFurry

Countries with Early Adoption of Face Masks Showed Modest COVID-19 Infection Rates

In “COVID-19 and Public Interest in Face Mask Use,” researchers from the Chinese University of Hong Kong shared findings from their analysis of how public interest in face masks may have affected the severity of COVID-19 epidemics and potentially contained the outbreak in 42 countries in 6 continents.
https://www.thoracic.org/about/newsr...tion-rates.php


Mask test with disposable mask: https://i.insider.com/5efcc0e35af6cc...eg&aut o=webp
Another: https://ibb.co/hf6nXPy
Full article: https://www.insider.com/microbiologi...navirus-2020-7


Simple aerosol mask test video with different masks - shows that even cheap disposable SURGICAL masks have a big effect: https://imgur.com/CIT9q9y

Will they filter 100%? No. Will they stop big water droplets from reaching other people? Yes.

None of these are peer-reviewed scientific studies.

They're effectively just opinion pieces.

[CurrentlySober]

I am also retarded and no longer work either...

[Hawkeye]

Originally Posted by Rochard

Common sense tells you that every barrier between your mouth and your nose and any potential source of the virus can prevent you from getting the virus.

According to the peer-reviewed scientific study I posted, placing a cloth mask over your face is actually more dangerous than doing nothing at all.

The cloth masks are filthy and are never sterilized, let alone sanitized. People put them in their pockets, in their purse, on the car seat after they get out of the store.

They use them over and over again, collecting filth and germs, and then they put it on their face? Common sense says it's counterproductive. So does science.

[wehateporn]

Originally Posted by Hawkeye

None of these are peer-reviewed scientific studies.

They're effectively just opinion pieces.

Yep, just looking for correlations, which are often coincidental

[wehateporn]

I believe in being able to breathe properly, oxygen in, carbon dioxide out, a vital process for the human body.

[BigFurry]

Both WHO and CDC recommends masks, you don't trust those either?

According to the peer-reviewed scientific study I posted, placing a cloth mask over your face is actually more dangerous than doing nothing at all.
The cloth masks are filthy and are never sterilized, let alone sanitized. People put them in their pockets, in their purse, on the car seat after they get out of the store.
They use them over and over again, collecting filth and germs, and then they put it on their face? Common sense says it's counterproductive. So does science.

That's absolutely right, that's why if you have to use cloth masks, you get 10 instead of just 1. Put it on with clean hands, and and wash at 90°C between each use.

[RandyRandy]

Rode the subway on Friday. About 95% mask compliance for riders. In each car I rode, I'd say about 30% were wearing the mask PROPERLY. The vast majority didn't cover their noses.

But hey - most people are mask compliant as far as "looks" are concerned...

I'd love to see the pro-maskers "educate" people in my neighborhood on why you should wear a mask. In my part of Crown Heights you'd get swiss-cheezed up in a second. In the Hasidic part of Crown Heights they're not wearing masks either - and they're the Trump supporters. So once again the broad stroke of equating no masks with Trump is part of the virtue-signaling crowd's repertoire - not based in New York City reality, that's for sure...

Stay safe. Mask-shame on the Interwebs only. You'll live a longer life...

[Slappin Fish]

First, and for the MILLIONTH time, masks are a good protection when the sick or asymptomatic person wears one not as good when the virus is already in suspension everywhere

Second, your respirator image is a little misleading

This is what a N95 respirator looks like.

[8pt-buck]

Look at the OPs location --- Enough said !

[Klen]

We were wearing masks here in CZ for whole 3 months, now not needed anymore. Countries which didnt had such requirement ,are now facing second wawe , while we dont.

[Slappin Fish]

Visual illustration from FOXTV. Wear a mask protect grandma and those around you

[ruff]

Why do stupid people insist on telling everyone how stupid they are? Too bad OP wasn't around for Polio, you didn't need a mask for that.

[Screwed Up]

Originally Posted by Slappin Fish

Visual illustration from FOXTV. Wear a mask protect grandma and those around you

Bacteria?
Covid19 is a virus. Which means covid19 is as small compared to a bacteria, as a bacteria is as small compared to a human. Wrap your head around that.
It's like comparing apples to oranges. Or better yet comparing ants to woolly mammoths.

Besides that, bacteria in your gut and mouth can signal to human cells which cells are infected with a virus even before you have any antibodies. You know, because 70% of your immune system resides in your gut and it's made up of trillions of bacteria.

Keep using anti-bacterial hand gel to protect yourself from a virus people.

[The Porn Nerd]

I agree about cloth masks tho. Those are BAD and nasty. Especially the fashionable ones. Get the disposable and throw it away every time you enter your home.

[Paul&John]

Originally Posted by BigFurry

Countries with Early Adoption of Face Masks Showed Modest COVID-19 Infection Rates

In “COVID-19 and Public Interest in Face Mask Use,” researchers from the Chinese University of Hong Kong shared findings from their analysis of how public interest in face masks may have affected the severity of COVID-19 epidemics and potentially contained the outbreak in 42 countries in 6 continents.
https://www.thoracic.org/about/newsr...tion-rates.php


Mask test with disposable mask: https://i.insider.com/5efcc0e35af6cc...eg&aut o=webp
Another: https://ibb.co/hf6nXPy
Full article: https://www.insider.com/microbiologi...navirus-2020-7


Simple aerosol mask test video with different masks - shows that even cheap disposable SURGICAL masks have a big effect: https://imgur.com/CIT9q9y

Will they filter 100%? No. Will they stop big water droplets from reaching other people? Yes.

Originally Posted by Klen

We were wearing masks here in CZ for whole 3 months, now not needed anymore. Countries which didnt had such requirement ,are now facing second wawe , while we dont.

Just take a look at countries where it was mandatory and you will see that it works. (posting from a country where it is/was mandatory and it fucking worked lol)

[escorpio]

Originally Posted by CurrentlySober

I am also retarded and no longer work either...

[escorpio]

Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd

I agree about cloth masks tho. Those are BAD and nasty. Especially the fashionable ones. Get the disposable and throw it away every time you enter your home.

This is correct. Hard as hell to find the disposable ones right now, unfortunately. I can't find them anywhere, just lots of those cloth fashion ones. Some people must be making serious bank off those things.

[nikki99]

just wear the mask

[alexistexasass]

"You are useless"

[mikeylikesit]

Originally Posted by escorpio

This is correct. Hard as hell to find the disposable ones right now, unfortunately. I can't find them anywhere, just lots of those cloth fashion ones. Some people must be making serious bank off those things.

try ebay, they have a bunch of the n95 surgicals without the breathing ports on them

I just ordered some of these today https://www.ebay.com/itm/184314078855

[Dickjagger1]

Except for the fact that none of that has a fucking thing to do with anything, it's a great point.

First, this ain't SARS or H1N1. Second, everybody with more than 3 functioning brain cells knows that masks won't protect you from getting it. What they do is keep you from SPREADING it by community spread, which your article doesn't address because it only looks at healthcare workers contracting it in a controlled healthcare setting.

Also, you are a moron.

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by Slappin Fish

Visual illustration from FOXTV. Wear a mask protect grandma and those around you

And there it is. Every major news org has produced similar videos.

This is common fucking sense. If you are standing three freet directly in front of someone and they sneeze, your face is going to get snot on it. If both of you are wearing masks.... You won't.

[ruff]

So many scientists on GFY. Who knew?

[Hawkeye]

Originally Posted by Slappin Fish

First, and for the MILLIONTH time, masks are a good protection when the sick or asymptomatic person wears one not as good when the virus is already in suspension everywhere

Second, your respirator image is a little misleading

This is what a N95 respirator looks like.

The peer-reviewed scientific literature refers to "medical masks and respirators", which are quite different from N95 masks.

This is the only type of mask that prevents the spread of KungFlu and other coronaviruses:

[King Mark]

The real retarded part is how you bozos say they wont stop viruses from spreading while at the same time claiming they're strong enough to lower your oxygen levels.

Drama queens... I guess you'll demand your surgeon be unmasked while operating on you too should the occasion arrive

[GAMEFINEST]

I rather wear it then die.

thanks

[Canada-eh]

Originally Posted by Hawkeye

Your disposable cotton and paper masks are useless.

God bless America and thank you for staying there.
Sincerely, your neighbors next door in Canada, where our curve was flattened many weeks ago by...wait for it....wearing masks and social distancing.

[bean-aid]

Originally Posted by Canada-eh

God bless America and thank you for staying there.
Sincerely, your neighbors next door in Canada, where our curve was flattened many weeks ago by...wait for it....wearing masks and social distancing.

Click feet, all lies.

[Canada-eh]

Originally Posted by beaner

Click feet, all lies.

Is it the verifiable nature of my post that bothered you most?

[bean-aid]

Originally Posted by Canada-eh

Is it the verifiable nature of my post that bothered you most?

Here's the thing. In the US we have such a violent peace we must spend BILLIONS on testing. More testing, more positives. It's mind blowing nobody talks about death rate plummeting

[klinton]

[klinton]

Originally Posted by King Mark

I guess you'll demand your surgeon be unmasked while operating on you too should the occasion arrive

show me a doctor that wears it constantly 10-15 hours/ day, 7 days a week.

[_Richard_]

Originally Posted by escorpio

This is correct. Hard as hell to find the disposable ones right now, unfortunately. I can't find them anywhere, just lots of those cloth fashion ones. Some people must be making serious bank off those things.

for the purpose of use (stopping you from spraying fluid everywhere in case you have picked it up during grocery shopping etc), cloth works fine..

the surgical stuff + n95 id suggest saving for trips to hospital etc

[Mr Pheer]

Originally Posted by beaner

Here's the thing. In the US we have such a violent peace we must spend BILLIONS on testing. More testing, more positives. It's mind blowing nobody talks about death rate plummeting

The death rate will appear to drop as more testing as done, but it is actually not moving that much. The cases of covid are climbing because there is a lot more testing being done. Personally I think there are massive amounts of false positives.

[Major (Tom)]

Originally Posted by Hawkeye

Your disposable cotton and paper masks are useless.

Even worse, the cloth masks that everybody is wearing are actually dangerous and facilitiate the transmission of KungFlu.

The only masks that work are "medical masks and respirators", as pictured below. Everything else is useless.



Published in the Journal of Clinical Infectious Diseases, Volume 65, Issue 11, 1 December 2017:

Effectiveness of Masks and Respirators Against Respiratory Infections in Healthcare Workers: A Systematic Review and Meta-Analysis

Conclusions

Our analysis confirms the effectiveness of medical masks and respirators against SARS. Disposable, cotton, or paper masks are not recommended.

...medical masks are preferable to cloth masks, for which there is no evidence of protection and which might facilitate transmission of pathogens when used repeatedly without adequate sterilization.

Yup. Waste of time

[Slappin Fish]

Originally Posted by Screwed Up

Bacteria?
Covid19 is a virus. Which means covid19 is as small compared to a bacteria, as a bacteria is as small compared to a human. Wrap your head around that.
It's like comparing apples to oranges. Or better yet comparing ants to woolly mammoths.

Besides that, bacteria in your gut and mouth can signal to human cells which cells are infected with a virus even before you have any antibodies. You know, because 70% of your immune system resides in your gut and it's made up of trillions of bacteria.

Keep using anti-bacterial hand gel to protect yourself from a virus people.

Are you an idiot?

The virus is carried by droplets, the bacteria test is a visual representation of how many droplets made it through the mask, nothing to do with bacteria being good or bad. Whatever the size the virus isn't flying by itself it is encapsulated in respiratory droplets.

Goodness me, some of you really are imbeciles.

[mopek1]

Originally Posted by Mr Pheer

The death rate will appear to drop as more testing as done, but it is actually not moving that much. The cases of covid are climbing because there is a lot more testing being done. Personally I think there are massive amounts of false positives.

The rate is dropping somewhat but you're right in that it "appears" to be dropping more because of the increased testing. But it is dropping.

And yeah, testing has increased dramatically all over the world so of course cases are going up. But, that doesn't mean cases are actually going up. It's just that we cans see them now whereas before we couldn't but the situation hasn't changed.

And the media is playing this out like we are going backwards, having a field day reporting all the case increases like the fire is spreading and getting out of control.

We all love to be in this hysteria ...

[wehateporn]

Originally Posted by King Mark

The real retarded part is how you bozos say they wont stop viruses from spreading while at the same time claiming they're strong enough to lower your oxygen levels.

What about the opposing claims that a mask is able stop viruses but still allow oxygen and carbon dioxide through? You can't have it both ways

[pimpmaster9000]

Originally Posted by wehateporn

What about the opposing claims that a mask is able stop viruses but still allow oxygen and carbon dioxide through? You can't have it both ways

masks stop droplets that contain viruses...better than nothing...its like claiming we should not wear seat belts because not everybody survives with a belt...an idiot can see why seat belts and masks help even if not 100%...

[Konda]

The main reason you wear a mask is to not infect others.

If you are close to people that are infected without them knowing (which is the majority of the infected people) and they don't wear a mask and they caugh or sneeze or even talk you, you are MUCH more likely to get infected than if they'd were a mask. So if everyone wears a mask, the virus spreads much slower. It's just common sense, I don't understand why it's even debated.


I live in South Korea, were everyone wears a mask and it's not even mandatory (except in public transport in some regions). People were a mask because they don't want lockdowns like in other parts of the world. We have never had any lockdowns here and are able to go to bars, cinemas, gyms, malls, amusement parks, etc all those things that are considers 'high risk', yet we only have 60 cases a day (it was even 0 some days).

If everyone wears a mask the virus spreads much much slower, and you don't need any of those lockdowns. I rather wear a mask and have a normal life without almost any limitations. Life here has been 99% normal during this pandemic. I'd choose that over not wearing a mask.

[Mickey_]

"Useless" is an exaggeration. Viral load matters and any mask will help reduce that.

You have a choice. Continue to argue your point via random links analyzing whether masks help or not or be a responsible adult so that you can start returning to close-to-normal life as soon as possible. The majority of the world chose the latter and they're out and about again after having tackled the first wave.

[celandina]

[Klen]

Originally Posted by Konda

The main reason you wear a mask is to not infect others.

If you are close to people that are infected without them knowing (which is the majority of the infected people) and they don't wear a mask and they caugh or sneeze or even talk you, you are MUCH more likely to get infected than if they'd were a mask. So if everyone wears a mask, the virus spreads much slower. It's just common sense, I don't understand why it's even debated.


I live in South Korea, were everyone wears a mask and it's not even mandatory (except in public transport in some regions). People were a mask because they don't want lockdowns like in other parts of the world. We have never had any lockdowns here and are able to go to bars, cinemas, gyms, malls, amusement parks, etc all those things that are considers 'high risk', yet we only have 60 cases a day (it was even 0 some days).

If everyone wears a mask the virus spreads much much slower, and you don't need any of those lockdowns. I rather wear a mask and have a normal life without almost any limitations. Life here has been 99% normal during this pandemic. I'd choose that over not wearing a mask.

Yes, it is simple logic, after lockdown passed, i think for government would be much less cost if they simply invested money into good masks and giving them instead restricting everything.