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Old 06-10-2020, 11:46 AM   #1
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France to block porn sites

https://www.01net.com/actualites/le-...s-1930557.html

I can see VPN's in the future and I can also see quite a few "age verification" tube sites popping up.
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It will fail just like did in the UK.
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I translated article with using google translate but it seems to me it's only first level of adaption, not fully adopted yet so still chance to kill it.
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They want to do the same in Germany

News from today:

https://www.heise.de/news/Websperren...r-4778790.html

It´s about Pornhub, Youporn and MyDirtyHobby

If those companies don´t take action they are asking the ISPs to block the sites....
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Liberals against porn.
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It will fail just like did in the UK.
Don't underestimate the full-on power of French bureaucracy
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Most of the muslim countries block porn sites. When i was in Turkey i coundnt open Gfy since adult related.Fance and Germany is different so it wont happen for sure
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Most of the muslim countries block porn sites. When i was in Turkey i coundnt open Gfy since adult related.Fance and Germany is different so it wont happen for sure
Have you seen the demographic changes in France and Germancy?
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It's the conservatives that hate porn.
honestly at this point you'd have to be pretty ignorant to think it's a partisan issue

there's bad actors on both sides that use anti-porn platforms/rhetoric/etc for their own gain

i mean look at that "end pornhub" campaign about sex trafficking that went around a few months ago...that was pushed by a "liberal" but if you investigated who was really behind it...she's pretty clearly a narcissistic power-obsessed asshole with a history of championing feel-good causes to build her own personal brand and influence
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I m a French webmaster and it ll be a big problem for us. Even if it s the first level adaptation , i m sure it will be adopted.

Now , i don't know what to do ? Give away from porn ?

And THANK YOUR DORCEL ( he supported the project) : FUCK YOU
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I m a French webmaster and it ll be a big problem for us. Even if it s the first level adaptation , i m sure it will be adopted.

Now , i don't know what to do ? Give away from porn ?

And THANK YOUR DORCEL ( he supported the project) : FUCK YOU
Well, it depend on implementation, it theory if they make it as simple process it might not cause actual damage.
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I m a French webmaster and it ll be a big problem for us. Even if it s the first level adaptation , i m sure it will be adopted.

Now , i don't know what to do ? Give away from porn ?

And THANK YOUR DORCEL ( he supported the project) : FUCK YOU
Flog VPN's that's what I was gearing up to do before it got scrapped in the UK
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Conservatives hate porn in their ideology, Mike Pence, but the left will use us as bargaining chip in a second if they need to.
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I m a French webmaster and it ll be a big problem for us. Even if it s the first level adaptation , i m sure it will be adopted.

Now , i don't know what to do ? Give away from porn ?

And THANK YOUR DORCEL ( he supported the project) : FUCK YOU

How is the ban supposed to work? Would you have to ask your ISP to unblock porn sites or is that the age verification thing?
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Conservatives hate porn in their ideology, Mike Pence, but the left will use us as bargaining chip in a second if they need to.
I think Trump, the guy who bangs porn stars and has made millions off selling porn in his hotels, is the most porn friendly president we’ve ever had.

And I have to say the torch has been passed to conservatives when it comes to free speech.
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How is the ban supposed to work? Would you have to ask your ISP to unblock porn sites or is that the age verification thing?
According to article , it is not defined yet, nothing unsual as this is still first step . There is even still a chance how it will drop it.
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I think Trump, the guy who bangs porn stars and has made millions off selling porn in his hotels, is the most porn friendly president we’ve ever had.

And I have to say the torch has been passed to conservatives when it comes to free speech.

It's not really just conservatives vs liberals. There are also liberal conservatives and conservative liberals.

Locally, we do have some religious conservatives (the worst case of all imo) who are anti porn, though currently their main agenda is abortion laws. In the past they wanted to implement some light censorship of nudity but it didn't pass.

We also have conservative liberals (right wing) who protect personal freedom and who would oppose any form of censorship or prohibition of abortions but there are also countries with these left wing liberal parties that are always fighting for social justice.
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According to article , it is not defined yet, nothing unsual as this is still first step . There is even still a chance how it will drop it.

Thanks. I will search for some English article on this later. Don't want to ruin my mood for today, lol
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Russians have also tried to block it (even pornhub has been "blocked" for a few days), because as they say, the people don't have sex in the real life because of porn. No sex - no soldiers for Putin... The Russian kids sing they will die for Putin (that's not a joke - they really sing that). This is called as political pedo-necrofilia.



P.S. Just a question because I don't know French. What is a reason to block it there? They also need a big army or what?
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30-40% of users of tubes sites are UNDER 18.

This is the big secret of the industry that no one wants to see...

Obviously tube sites don't want to tell you, because they still want to sell advertising.

When you buy tube traffic, just know that 30-40% are KIDS and obviously, they do NOT have credit card or any way to pay.

This is what they are trying to prevent here.
I think it's a good thing
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30-40% of users of tubes sites are UNDER 18.

This is the big secret of the industry that no one wants to see...

Obviously tube sites don't want to tell you, because they still want to sell advertising.

When you buy tube traffic, just know that 30-40% are KIDS and obviously, they do NOT have credit card or any way to pay.

This is what they are trying to prevent here.
I think it's a good thing
It depend on technical solution made to do this. For example, if they would have system like "e-citizen", which would exists in form of desktop/mobile app, and which could be easily installed, then there wouldn't be any problem. In shortly, solution need to be simpler then installing VPN which is quite easy to do, especially on mobile where it is required single click only.
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30-40% of users of tubes sites are UNDER 18.
Hmm. Is that bad or what? Most of the boys are interested in sex from they are about 8-9 year old age (am I wrong?). This is a human physiology. So what's a problem?

P.S. Do you understand that whey don't look for movies about murders like Rambo or something like that? Killing of people is unnatural, while sex is something that gave us (a 100% of dudes here) a life. Feel the difference.
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30-40% of users of tubes sites are UNDER 18.

This is the big secret of the industry that no one wants to see...

Obviously tube sites don't want to tell you, because they still want to sell advertising.

When you buy tube traffic, just know that 30-40% are KIDS and obviously, they do NOT have credit card or any way to pay.

This is what they are trying to prevent here.
I think it's a good thing
you pulled that number out of your ass, admit it

I'd believe 10%

I'd even believe 20%

40%? that came straight out of your poophole
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It depend on technical solution made to do this. For example, if they would have system like "e-citizen", which would exists in form of desktop/mobile app, and which could be easily installed, then there wouldn't be any problem. In shortly, solution need to be simpler then installing VPN which is quite easy to do, especially on mobile where it is required single click only.
You have missed a key points:

1) Every 12 year old knows how to circumvent anything parents have installed and hide his/hers browsing history.

2) Genie is out for 25 years and NOBODY can put it back.

3) Some "sex education" via porn keeps them away from jihadi, antifa,neo nazi, NRA and other " legit" propaganda
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The genie IS out of the bottle when it comes to technology in general. There is a hack for everything now and people are smart enough to use Google to find these sources of info. NOTHING can 100% prevent ANYTHING, in life or especially on the Internet.

Having said all that I, as a paysite owner and content creator who started in 2008 or so long after 'the good times', I would welcome an effective age verification solution. Sales would not return to pre-2010 levels but they would most certainly go up. The big tubes could also survive having all implemented a paid section.

Speaking of which: tubes should also implement one-click upsells to the paysites who provide the free content for these paid sections so a Member can more easily join the contributing paysite. Just a thought.
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Studied there, lived there, ran businesses there.

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They are no 'conservatives' or 'liberals' in France

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"Liberals" are for the free market in france.
For most people in france, it is a synonym of capitalism.
In the US, liberals are commies...

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P.S. Just a question because I don't know French. What is a reason to block it there?
It's hard to tell what's the reason.
It all started as a political conversation around the topic "we must stop violence against women".
And then From "stop violence to women" it derived somehow into "block porn to minors".

All professionals from our industry agree that violence to women must stop, and that minors should not access porn.
But the methods they're about to implement are probably questionnable in their efficiency... and their real motive.

Talking about real motive... are they sincerly trying to protect women and minors, or is it a mix of PR stunt to gain popularity and take advantage of the situation to implement more control over individuals surfing the net ?

Hey, who knows, bets are open

What's interesting is that it started in the UK, then they dropped it for several reasons... and now France puts the same stuff on the table. And apparently Italy and Germany are also being inspired.

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Old 07-27-2020, 11:49 PM   #49
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@porcorosso have ever noticed this competition between states to be the best ?
Check the Coronavirus...

Now France tries its best 🙄

Anyway, i feel like the FemiMcCarthyism is losing slowly it's influence.
On the other hand, there are may be to many sex scandals in France: since politicians are less and less popular, people criticize them with what they have.

For teenagers, first they are not customers and then i'm still waiting for a scientific consensus on the fact that watching sex is harmful for teenagers.
I mean beside that purely moral PoV.
Usually watching animals doing it (in a farm for example, because back in the time, there used to be a lot of farmers... with children), this is Nature. But watching people doing it, is some kind of witchcraft that is harmful...
What about a delivery ?
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They cant block porn, because of bussiness.. motherfucker.. whos idea was this? Fuck the goverment, fuck the police
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