Tech Car Guys - Is 8BHP and 10 Torque much of a gain?

[CurrentlySober]

Looking at a remap for one of my cars. The Beemer gets a raise of 30BHP but this one would only get 8? Would 8BHP (and 10 Torque) make a noticeable difference?

[NatalieK]

hey, car girls and guys


tbh, on a little mzda, if you´re not upgrading other things like the injectors or the air system, the remap is probably all it may upgrade...

we upgraded the exhaust and tyres, air intake on a primera GT and you could feel the difference, a remap would have upgraded about 20bh too, but never got around to doing the remap, bought the skyline instead

[Paul&John]

Looks like thats an MX-5 NC, according to wiki it weights around ~1150kg (2.500lbs), so its a relatively light car..

[CurrentlySober]

Originally Posted by Paul&John

Looks like thats an MX-5 NC, according to wiki it weights around ~1150kg (2.500lbs), so its a relatively light car..

So would that mean that 8 is gonna seem more than it would on a heavier car, or because its so light it wont mean much at all ? Which way round is it?

[Ferus]

Originally Posted by NatalieK

hey, car girls and guys


tbh, on a little mzda, if you´re not upgrading other things like the injectors or the air system, the remap is probably all it may upgrade...

we upgraded the exhaust and tyres, air intake on a primera GT and you could feel the difference, a remap would have upgraded about 20bh too, but never got around to doing the remap, bought the skyline instead

Gary still talking about the GTS he owned 10-15 years ago now?

[notinmybackyard]

Originally Posted by CurrentlySober

Looking at a remap for one of my cars. The Beemer gets a raise of 30BHP but this one would only get 8? Would 8BHP (and 10 Torque) make a noticeable difference?

It's a 1.8l engine.
Honestly, your not going to get a lot more out of it without serious modifications. Honestly, if you want more HP then change the engine.

[CurrentlySober]

Originally Posted by notinmybackyard

It's a 1.8l engine.
Honestly, your not going to get a lot more out of it without serious modifications. Honestly, if you want more HP then change the engine.

No, I get you. You just as easily say if I want more HP then buy a different car, and I get that... Its just that a local place is advertising a 'non invasive' engine remap (My words, not theirs) kinda while I wait, and so I plugged my car into their online calculator and it offered me a gain of 8.

Now as I don't exactly have the knowledge to gauge as to how much one HP is, I am wondering if I had 8 more, would I notice any difference, or would the difference be just 'on paper' so to speak?

I know if they had offered me say a gain of 50, I wouldn't have asked the question.

[Ferus]

Originally Posted by CurrentlySober

No, I get you. You just as easily say if I want more HP then buy a different car, and I get that... Its just that a local place is advertising a 'non invasive' engine remap (My words, not theirs) kinda while I wait, and so I plugged my car into their online calculator and it offered me a gain of 8.

Now as I don't exactly have the knowledge to gauge as to how much one HP is, I am wondering if I had 8 more, would I notice any difference, or would the difference be just 'on paper' so to speak?

I know if they had offered me say a gain of 50, I wouldn't have asked the question.

its roughly a 6% increase.

If your turds were 6% bigger, would you notice? I bet you would.
If my turds were 6% bigger, would I notice? nope

Conclusion: it depends on your perspective and knowledge, if you feel much of a difference.

Buy a Borla Exhaust and you will fit right in with the locals at the pub

[CurrentlySober]

Originally Posted by Ferus

its roughly a 6% increase.

If your turds were 6% bigger, would you notice? I bet you would.
If my turds were 6% bigger, would I notice? nope

Conclusion: it depends on your perspective and knowledge, if you feel much of a difference.

Buy a Borla Exhaust and you will fit right in with the locals at the pub

Thankyou. Using turds to explain has actually helped me understand it fully.

I have no frame of reference for HP... But I sure do for turds - Very much so.

Spanks again X

[k0nr4d]

It would be roughly the same difference you feel as when you have a passenger in the car vs not.

[notinmybackyard]

Originally Posted by CurrentlySober

No, I get you. You just as easily say if I want more HP then buy a different car, and I get that... Its just that a local place is advertising a 'non invasive' engine remap (My words, not theirs) kinda while I wait, and so I plugged my car into their online calculator and it offered me a gain of 8.

Now as I don't exactly have the knowledge to gauge as to how much one HP is, I am wondering if I had 8 more, would I notice any difference, or would the difference be just 'on paper' so to speak?

I know if they had offered me say a gain of 50, I wouldn't have asked the question.

8HP is NOT a lot of gain and then again I've got a 1935 ford that only has 84HP. So, I would jump for joy at an extra 8HP. My question therefore is, why do you want or need more HP? What I'm getting at is that it pretty much comes down to that when you're dealing with a 1.8l engine and just 8HP. ((But if they're giving you the upgrade for free then go for it))




On that note....


Horsepower is actually a difficult calculation. In the very most basic (and inaccurate) definition used by car collecting hobbyists like myself...

Horsepower is the ability of 1 draft horse to lift 1 ton the distance of 1 inch using a single overhead pulley.

This graphic gives a better understanding

[Tubevideditor]

Not much gain but remaps often make a car more driveable and smoother.
From the factory, the map will be all about emmissions (on newer cars) so a map can improve things.
I had a map on a 300hp car and ignoring the extra power, the thing i first noticed was just how much nicer (not faster) it was to drive in town.

On thing to note is if you have a manufacture warranty on your car, any map will prob void it if anything goes wrong as they can detect changes to the ECU.

[fuzebox]

ECU remaps, flashes, tunes, etc can squeeze more out of even the miata's NA 1.8L. You'll have to run premium gas. You may feel a bit more throttle response or it may be a placebo given the 5% gains like everyone else says here.

To maximize the output of the tune you'll have to do intake and header as well. On the NC miata the biggest restriction is that catted header.

Lots of advice here: https://forum.miata.net/vb/forumdisplay.php?f=110

[ruff]

Not much of a gain. Are you still in warranty? Might want to see what voids it.

[SBJ]

in a car as light as that you might notice the 8% gain and if nothing else it will sound more healthy. If the cost isn't that much I say go for it. but then again if you lost 10% of your weight the car might go 10% faster

[NatalieK]

Originally Posted by Ferus

Gary still talking about the GTS he owned 10-15 years ago now?

first, Gary prefers 4x4´s, range rovers, jeeps, etc...

second, it was a GTR you fucking moron, it was my car and I sold it when we moved here to Spain because we didn´t want to spend 4 grand putting a Spanish plate on it, you fucking moron gypsy.


Stop harassing me, you´ll get the ban hammer soon! Every time I comment or post, you´re somewhere around, sniffing my ass hole and posting some shit BS about me or Gary, now fuck off Ferus, grow up, get a life!




@CS, as said, you want to look at maybe the air intake, getting more air into the engine will improve the engine dramatically and again with the exhaust, probably 15 to 20 hp extra and then another 2 hp from your re map, so the remap will be 10hp, you´ll have another 20 to 30bp on that tiny car, enough to get 0-60, 2 seconds quicker, probably 7 seconds, and another 10 mpg top end...

also think about changing the injectors and sparks...



people spend 20 to 50 grand on car mods to make them a lot different, new fast flow water cooling and much more!

[Ferus]

Originally Posted by NatalieK

first, Gary prefers 4x4´s, range rovers, jeeps, etc...

second, it was a GTR you fucking moron, it was my car and I sold it when we moved here to Spain because we didn´t want to spend 4 grand putting a Spanish plate on it, you fucking moron gypsy.


Stop harassing me, you´ll get the ban hammer soon! Every time I comment or post, you´re somewhere around, sniffing my ass hole and posting some shit BS about me or Gary, now fuck off Ferus, grow up, get a life!

Get over yourself Gary, and you should REALLY stop pretending to be Nat.
Remember your place and remember where you are

[Major (Tom)]

Originally Posted by CurrentlySober

Looking at a remap for one of my cars. The Beemer gets a raise of 30BHP but this one would only get 8? Would 8BHP (and 10 Torque) make a noticeable difference?

Not for a remap. 8hp is like a cold air intake. I have a hellcat & a demon. I got more hp with long tube headers, cold air intake and a larger intercooler with a co2 spay to chill the water to about 35 degrees.

[notinmybackyard]

Originally Posted by DukeSkywalker

Not for a remap. 8hp is like a cold air intake. I have a hellcat & a demon. I got more hp with long tube headers, cold air intake and a larger intercooler with a co2 spay to chill the water to about 35 degrees.

Stop the pillow talk because you'll make me cream my jeans.

[Major (Tom)]

Originally Posted by notinmybackyard

Stop the pillow talk because you'll make me cream my jeans.

Lol. I habe my hellcat down in south carolina. I put a 4 link rear it and a new motor and trans. Twin turbos. I ditched the blower.

[NatalieK]

Originally Posted by Ferus

Get over yourself Gary, and you should REALLY stop pretending to be Nat.
Remember your place and remember where you are

Ferus, as said, you´re always around sniffing my asshole, putting you behind me in my rear view mirror, no matter where we are, ass hat

You need to remember where you are, GFY doesn´t like abusive wankers or harassment, and you´re always harassing me, keep going and get that ban hammer



back to the thread... CS, did you get the free remap? Did they try to upgrade other items while you were there?

[CurrentlySober]

Originally Posted by NatalieK

Ferus, as said, you´re always around sniffing my asshole, putting you behind me in my rear view mirror, no matter where we are, ass hat

You need to remember where you are, GFY doesn´t like abusive wankers or harassment, and you´re always harassing me, keep going and get that ban hammer



back to the thread... CS, did you get the free remap? Did they try to upgrade other items while you were there?

No, it was never a free offer. Just a service being offered locally that had been advertised. They invited you to use an online vehicle checker to see what your gains would be. I have not had it done, and I do not intend to now

Here's the calculator page: https://www.revswest.com/re-mapping/

[Ferus]

Originally Posted by NatalieK

Ferus, as said, you´re always around sniffing my asshole, putting you behind me in my rear view mirror, no matter where we are, ass hat

You need to remember where you are, GFY doesn´t like abusive wankers or harassment, and you´re always harassing me, keep going and get that ban hammer

"harassment"? fuck off Gary. I really have no time for cunts like you. Look at yourself you fat failure - you have no problem renting your wife out to turists bukakke parties, and then logs on to a site called "Go Fuck Yourself" and claim to feel violated because some european dude points out your repeditive failures.

You really think anyone here care about your feelings Gary? really?

Go eat a dick Gary.. and tell us more about how you wasted Natalie's money on Nagacoin.

[NatalieK]

Originally Posted by Ferus

"harassment"? fuck off Gary. I really have no time for cunts like you. Look at yourself you fat failure - you have no problem renting your wife out to turists bukakke parties, and then logs on to a site called "Go Fuck Yourself" and claim to feel violated because some european dude points out your repeditive failures.

You really think anyone here care about your feelings Gary? really?

Go eat a dick Gary.. and tell us more about how you wasted Natalie's money on Nagacoin.

seriously, i´ve not read the above, just fuck off, stop writing to me,...

in fact, no need, i´m adding you to my small banned list... you´re on ignore mother fucker!

no need to type any more... night night

[NatalieK]

Originally Posted by CurrentlySober

No, it was never a free offer. Just a service being offered locally that had been advertised. They invited you to use an online vehicle checker to see what your gains would be. I have not had it done, and I do not intend to now

Here's the calculator page: https://www.revswest.com/re-mapping/

looks like it would push 50 added bhp on a new GTR 2011, having to get one, some day...


personally i think you should look at the sparks and air intake, just add a mushroom box, clean air, and then maybe speak to them about remapping, it´s worth it considering you get better fuel economy too

[Ferus]

Originally Posted by NatalieK

seriously, i´ve not read the above, just fuck off, stop writing to me,...

in fact, no need, i´m adding you to my small banned list... you´re on ignore mother fucker!

no need to type any more... night night

Yeah... that will teach me.... Gonna write a angry letter next?

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by CurrentlySober

advertising a 'non invasive' engine remap (My words, not theirs)

sounds like a 'tune'. sometimes a 'tune' will lite a few warnings on the dash permanently, change yer gas mileage etc.. and tunes can do HP or torque depending..... usually a few 'bolt on's' like headers, cold air intake and some other stuff combined with a tune it what is usually done.