What interesting shit do you think we will learn from or about Mars during our lifetime ??

[Scott McD]

That we don't know already...

[Paul Markham]

We will learn nothing but any thing we invent to get us there.

But the scientists and media will make a big song and dance about bad pictures and samples of rocks and sand.

There's nothing on Mars or the Moon to justify the cost of going there and bringing back.

[Scott McD]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

There's nothing on Mars or the Moon to justify the cost of going there and bringing back.

Aren't they trying to justify the next moon landing just to "get the first woman on the moon".??

Pretty sure i read that just recently...

[Grapesoda]

Humans move into empty areas, always have, always will. Learning to live on Mars etc is just the first step

[Scott McD]

Originally Posted by Grapesoda

Humans move into empty areas, always have, always will. Learning to live on Mars etc is just the first step

Fast forward 20 years and the riots begin...

[OneHungLo]

Is the consensus that Mars did at one point in time have an atmosphere and that atmosphere allowed it to have water? And if there's water there could have been life?

[CurrentlySober]

I have already learnt that eating 20 Mars Bars a day doesn't make me slim...

[sonofsam]

Originally Posted by OneHungLo

Is the consensus that Mars did at one point in time have an atmosphere and that atmosphere allowed it to have water? And if there's water there could have been life?

They believe there is water there right now.

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-02751-1
https://www.nbcnews.com/science/spac...lakes-n1241234

[Domination4K]

Aliens created humans

[CaptainHowdy]

Originally Posted by Domination4K

Aliens created humans

There you have it . . .

[lockept93]

We know it may could be, but we are not sure yet, but i think we will find out that mars was once a planet like the earth, blue and green.

[The Porn Nerd]

Personally I don't to know anything about Bruno Mars.

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by OneHungLo

Is the consensus that Mars did at one point in time have an atmosphere and that atmosphere allowed it to have water? And if there's water there could have been life?

So what benefits does that bring to justify spending $billions?

We could discover water of Earth for less and save lives.

[Manfap]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

There's nothing on the Moon to justify the cost of going there and bringing back.

Yes there is: Helium-3

[Look Chang]

The red planet may fascinate some but I prefer the red girls from Pattaya who are more easily accessible ...

[BaldBastard]

Originally Posted by OneHungLo

Is the consensus that Mars did at one point in time have an atmosphere and that atmosphere allowed it to have water? And if there's water there could have been life?

.. there IS water now, that's already confirmed. There may or may not be life but I don't think anyone's expecting anything more than a bacterial snot.

The more we look.. its pointing to that every planet/moon in our system has life... snot life.

Venus and Pluto are now being investigated

Venus https://earthsky.org/space/life-on-v...-biosignatures

Pluto https://earthsky.org/space/life-insi...internal-ocean

[celandina]

Originally Posted by Domination4K

Aliens created humans

You should know, after all you are from there

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by Manfap

Yes there is: Helium-3

Mars One estimates the cost of bringing the first four people to Mars at US$ 6 billion. This is the cost of all the hardware combined, plus the operational expenditures, plus margins. For every next manned mission including hardware and operations, Mars One estimates the costs at US$ 4 billion.

At $1400 per gram, one hundred kilograms (220 pounds) of helium-3 would be worth about $140 million. One hundred kilograms constitutes more than enough fuel to potentially power a 1000 megawatt electric plant for a year when fused with deuterium, the terrestrially abundant heavy isotope of hydrogen.

So if they can mine, extract, bring back a ton of helium-3 they can't break even.

Like I said, what's on Mars to justify spending 4-6 $billion a trip?

[k0nr4d]

Originally Posted by Manfap

Yes there is: Helium-3

Nazi moon base as well

[newB]

Originally Posted by OneHungLo

Is the consensus that Mars did at one point in time have an atmosphere and that atmosphere allowed it to have water? And if there's water there could have been life?

Mars does have an atmosphere, it just isn't able to support us. The atmosphere there is thin and mainly CO2 - something that I find interesting is that as a result of the CO2 atmosphere, massive glaciers of dry ice form over the poles in the winter. One of the probes we sent we landed near one of the poles and fully expected to be flattened by said glaciers.

[Manfap]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Mars One estimates the cost of bringing the first four people to Mars at US$ 6 billion. This is the cost of all the hardware combined, plus the operational expenditures, plus margins. For every next manned mission including hardware and operations, Mars One estimates the costs at US$ 4 billion.

At $1400 per gram, one hundred kilograms (220 pounds) of helium-3 would be worth about $140 million. One hundred kilograms constitutes more than enough fuel to potentially power a 1000 megawatt electric plant for a year when fused with deuterium, the terrestrially abundant heavy isotope of hydrogen.

So if they can mine, extract, bring back a ton of helium-3 they can't break even.

Like I said, what's on Mars to justify spending 4-6 $billion a trip?

Originally Posted by Paul Markham
There's nothing on the Moon to justify the cost of going there and bringing back.

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by Scott McD

Fast forward 20 years and the riots begin...

over entitled people and groups are always going to try and take the money

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by Manfap

Originally Posted by Paul Markham
There's nothing on the Moon to justify the cost of going there and bringing back.

fuel source

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helium-3

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

So if they can mine, extract, bring back a ton of helium-3 they can't break even.

don't bring it back, use it in space

[ruff]

Apparently the only thing that grows there is potatoes. I think I could get the Mars experience on the moon for half the money and half the time.

[Pryda]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

So what benefits does that bring to justify spending $billions?

We could discover water of Earth for less and save lives.

We could make Mars habitable. That will probably take a few thousand years though. So yeah, not worth it if you're a short term thinker.

[Den BongaCash]

I still believe that there is ancient alien tech on Mars, just waiting for someone like Douglas Quaid to activate it

[Phoenix]

We could begin to terraform mars to have an additional place for humans and some other animals and plants trees etc to live. That alone is worth it in terms of insurance.
It is 100% likely that by going there we will find and invent countless new helpful devices and procedures that will impact millions or more lives here on Earth.

A whole new economy could end up forming around some of those inventions.

Keep in mind that before too long, we will see harvesting of asteroids etc, likely to be brought to the moon first. processed, waste material easily buried and sealed. Final material back to Earth. Economies will change.

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by ruff

Apparently the only thing that grows there is potatoes. I think I could get the Mars experience on the moon for half the money and half the time.

Irish people can immigrate to the moon

[King Mark]

I'm more interested in Venus these days

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by Manfap

Originally Posted by Paul Markham
There's nothing on the Moon to justify the cost of going there and bringing back.

So what is there that justifies the cost?

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by Pryda

We could make Mars habitable. That will probably take a few thousand years though. So yeah, not worth it if you're a short term thinker.

We have major problems here on Earth that will impact on the Earth in a couple of centuries. They have already started, so good luck getting to the next Millenium.

[Scott McD]

Originally Posted by King Mark

I'm more interested in Venus these days

Venus has been even brighter than the moon most nights these past few weeks or so. Amazing sight...

[Manfap]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

So what is there that justifies the cost?

Helium-3

[ilnjscb]

We haven't even explored our own ocean. If Mars had a breathable atmosphere and was 21C it would be awesome, but it doesn't. The gravity is 38% which would completely fuck over human physiology.

[Pryda]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

We have major problems here on Earth that will impact on the Earth in a couple of centuries. They have already started, so good luck getting to the next Millenium.

Sounds like it will be good to have a backup planet

[ruff]

Originally Posted by King Mark

I'm more interested in Venus these days

No place to stand. That's problematic.