Tech If i wanted to self-host my own content plus live stream content what are my options?

[Windows95Plus]

If I wanted to do it all from my own home what would be the recommended Upload speed I would need, what kind of server would I need to run, and how much bandwidth should I shoot to have while starting out and storage space? from experiences, what would be the traffic level I should allot my network resources for. Lets say this is a solo site project. I wanna livestream 720p video content with a decent bitrate and also have prerecorded 1080p video content galleries and HQ image content galleries that I want to update daily.

Would a VPS + a CDN be a better option?

[VRR]

The answer would depend entirely on what you want to achieve. Hosting from home is not an option, because among other things, you will probably find that in your contract with your ISP this is forbidden. Even if not, this home computer acting as a server would be subject to power outages and service provider outages where you don't have any guarantee that the issue will be resolved in a timely manner.

The traffic levels (actually, the bandwidth) would depend entirely on how many visitors are watching the streams/vod at the same time. A well optimized 720p is around 2-2.5Mbps. A well optimized 1080p is around 4 up to 5Mbps. So, 50 people watching 720p content would add up to 125Mbps minimum and you can see how this could easily get hairy.

You may be able to do with a VPS that has a gigabit connection and a generous amount of traffic included. This would work unless your viewers happen to be spread around the world. You should not go with a cheap option because you will need disk I/O and bandwidth that is not oversold.

VPS + external storage + CDN is your best bet. This way the VPS deals with rendering the site, the storage is your managed repository for all your content where you simply upload stuff and don't need to manage anything, and the CDN does the magic to deliver the videos to one or 1000s of viewers.

[ruff]

Hosting from home? You'd probably get hacked in .03 nanoseconds.

[InfoGuy]

Originally Posted by ruff

Hosting from home? You'd probably get hacked in .03 nanoseconds.

Especially if OP is still running Win95.

[CaptainHowdy]

Originally Posted by InfoGuy

Especially if OP is still running Win95.

. . .

[directfiesta]

Originally Posted by Windows95Plus

If I wanted to do it all from my own home what would be the recommended Upload speed I would need, what kind of server would I need to run, and how much bandwidth should I shoot to have while starting out and storage space? from experiences, what would be the traffic level I should allot my network resources for. Lets say this is a solo site project. I wanna livestream 720p video content with a decent bitrate and also have prerecorded 1080p video content galleries and HQ image content galleries that I want to update daily.

Would a VPS + a CDN be a better option?

Flashback to 2001 with an ATT ADSL .....

[Windows95Plus]

Originally Posted by VRR

The answer would depend entirely on what you want to achieve. Hosting from home is not an option, because among other things, you will probably find that in your contract with your ISP this is forbidden. Even if not, this home computer acting as a server would be subject to power outages and service provider outages where you don't have any guarantee that the issue will be resolved in a timely manner.

The traffic levels (actually, the bandwidth) would depend entirely on how many visitors are watching the streams/vod at the same time. A well optimized 720p is around 2-2.5Mbps. A well optimized 1080p is around 4 up to 5Mbps. So, 50 people watching 720p content would add up to 125Mbps minimum and you can see how this could easily get hairy.

You may be able to do with a VPS that has a gigabit connection and a generous amount of traffic included. This would work unless your viewers happen to be spread around the world. You should not go with a cheap option because you will need disk I/O and bandwidth that is not oversold.

VPS + external storage + CDN is your best bet. This way the VPS deals with rendering the site, the storage is your managed repository for all your content where you simply upload stuff and don't need to manage anything, and the CDN does the magic to deliver the videos to one or 1000s of viewers.

Damn, so I went and looked at the contract and it says:

use or run dedicated, stand-alone equipment or servers from the Premises that provide network content or any other services to anyone outside of your Premises local area network (“Premises LAN”), also commonly referred to as public services or servers. Examples of prohibited equipment and servers include, but are not limited to, email, web hosting, file sharing, and proxy services and servers;

use or run programs, devices, or equipment from the Premises that provide network content or any other services to anyone outside of your Premises LAN, except for your personal and non-commercial residential use;
.

So what if I dont do the image galleries BUT I wanna do the live stream. If its noncommercial then I can still do that based on what I am seeing tho right? So non commercial live streaming should be fine right as long as I dont make my own hls or rtmp server. (Which makes it still impossible to self host a livestream right?)

[NatalieMojoHost]

VRR pretty much outlined it, but to add to his post - the local residential network is simply not set up to act as a data center, so performance, as well as reliability, would be far below substandard. If you're looking to do it non-commercial, that means you can't make a penny off the site - even through ads.

I think going with a hosting company would be your best bet. If you're worried about using a provider, some hosts offer options for colocation at data centers.

I'd be happy to talk to you about your options (I represent MojoHost, so please reach out via any of my contacts in the sig). It may be that a VPS will be a good choice to start, though of course, any larger membership site would eventually require migrating to dedicated servers or more complex virtualized environments.

[sandman!]

Your isp says in the contract no you can’t host at home it’s the same with 99% of isps unless you buy a business connection which is usually a lot more.

Originally Posted by Windows95Plus

Damn, so I went and looked at the contract and it says:

use or run dedicated, stand-alone equipment or servers from the Premises that provide network content or any other services to anyone outside of your Premises local area network (“Premises LAN”), also commonly referred to as public services or servers. Examples of prohibited equipment and servers include, but are not limited to, email, web hosting, file sharing, and proxy services and servers;

use or run programs, devices, or equipment from the Premises that provide network content or any other services to anyone outside of your Premises LAN, except for your personal and non-commercial residential use;
.

So what if I dont do the image galleries BUT I wanna do the live stream. If its noncommercial then I can still do that based on what I am seeing tho right? So non commercial live streaming should be fine right as long as I dont make my own hls or rtmp server. (Which makes it still impossible to self host a livestream right?)

[Klen]

Originally Posted by sandman!

Your isp says in the contract no you can’t host at home it’s the same with 99% of isps unless you buy a business connection which is usually a lot more.

Yep, those cheeky bastards dont want you to run hosting at home unless you shell shitload of money to them.
Once i called for quote on fixed ip , and they said 100 euros monthly, and when i asked why, such a big price they said because it could be used for hosting.

[sandman!]

here upload speed is what gets you i have 100 down 10 up if i want 20 up i have to upgrade to the 500 down plan i dont need 500 down i would like to have 20-50 up tho

10 up is not enough to host shit.

Originally Posted by Klen

Yep, those cheeky bastards dont want you to run hosting at home unless you shell shitload of money to them.
Once i called for quote on fixed ip , and they said 100 euros monthly, and when i asked why, such a big price they said because it could be used for hosting.

[NatalieK]

Originally Posted by ruff

Hosting from home? You'd probably get hacked in .03 nanoseconds.

it´s also the connections, equipment and other self hosting costs..

our meterage here in Spain wouldn´t take a site being hit 100 times in an hour, but the connection is 600 mbps, so it´s great upload and download, but to have the amount of hits a site can take, this would be crazy

[Klen]

Originally Posted by sandman!

here upload speed is what gets you i have 100 down 10 up if i want 20 up i have to upgrade to the 500 down plan i dont need 500 down i would like to have 20-50 up tho

10 up is not enough to host shit.

Well, you can host something simple on bad connection, like about me website. But the biggest irony is, how connections speeds as time when i made that call was 1 mb top , if not less. Tho, there was one simple trick for hosting your own websites when static ip is not available , and that is using no ip.

[CurrentlySober]

Originally Posted by sandman!

host shit.

i lik 2 host shit...

[INever]

Originally Posted by Windows95Plus

If I wanted to do it all from my own home what would be the recommended Upload speed I would need, what kind of server would I need to run, and how much bandwidth should I shoot to have while starting out and storage space? from experiences, what would be the traffic level I should allot my network resources for. Lets say this is a solo site project. I wanna livestream 720p video content with a decent bitrate and also have prerecorded 1080p video content galleries and HQ image content galleries that I want to update daily.

Would a VPS + a CDN be a better option?

there are some decent under the radar hosts. pm me for one or two suggestions.