Anyone having success on Hamster with Fan Club Memberships

[amacontent]

Im being told by them a good way to monetize is just don't dp Premium. Ive only made $71 in 3 months. They said to take advantage of fan club option. Ill get 68 percent of each subscription But why would anyone pay money to subscribe when they can just join premium.

Very confused with this platform.

[AmeliaG]

What are fan clubs on there? Is that like an OnlyFans individual sub or?

[amacontent]

Originally Posted by AmeliaG

What are fan clubs on there? Is that like an OnlyFans individual sub or?

Its sort of like a studio . You can choose fan club as an option or Premium subscription. I keep getting jibber jabber but bottom line I'm making shit.

[necoeds]

Originally Posted by amacontent

Im being told by them a good way to monetize is just don't dp Premium. Ive only made $71 in 3 months. They said to take advantage of fan club option. Ill get 68 percent of each subscription But why would anyone pay money to subscribe when they can just join premium.

Very confused with this platform.

I would recommend just yanking your content from xhamster premium. My opinion of Sharky and xhamster has changed over the last week or so. Honestly, it's just a waste of time to deal with them. It's very little money, and they expose the content too much now with premium

Since you also aren't doing well, that was the last straw for me.

[Mefo]

Originally Posted by necoeds

I would recommend just yanking your content from xhamster premium. My opinion of Sharky and xhamster has changed over the last week or so. Honestly, it's just a waste of time to deal with them. It's very little money, and they expose the content too much now with premium

Since you also aren't doing well, that was the last straw for me.

I haven't heard of anyone actually making anything decent with Xhamster premium, we never bothered because of this.

On a side note; if you're looking to monetize amateur content please drop me a msg on erwin.deboer @ manicamedia.com - we have something that does work without having to expose your content to the point nobody buys it anymore.

[amacontent]

Originally Posted by Mefo

I haven't heard of anyone actually making anything decent with Xhamster premium, we never bothered because of this.

On a side note; if you're looking to monetize amateur content please drop me a msg on erwin.deboer @ manicamedia.com - we have something that does work without having to expose your content to the point nobody buys it anymore.

Why can't you just tell me here.

[amacontent]

Seems I should not waste my time on XH ... I'm getting Skype messages to the fact.

[SpicyM]

Fan club is limited to your content while Premium is all-in-one service similar to PH Premium.

At least, producers now have the option to decide if they want to sell the scene as a single clip, or use it in a fan club or Premium. Before they added this option, they had forced everyone to sell individual clips while they would also add them to the fan club and 20% of them in Premium ... I complained that it's extremely confusing for both customers and content owners, so at least they improved it a little bit. They mix 3 different marketing models on one site without clearly explaining the differences/advantages between FanClubs and Premium.

I also complained they only promote the Premium on Xhamster video pages but not the Fan club, which makes no sense, especially if you wish to send more customers to your Fan club.

Another thing is that they are slow as fuck. It takes them several days to approve a scene.

[celandina]

What am I not getting here? If you have your own content, why not set up and promote your own pay website and keep 100% of your money?

[amacontent]

Originally Posted by celandina

What am I not getting here? If you have your own content, why not set up and promote your own pay website and keep 100% of your money?

I don't even think thats worth it when you say keep your own money

Hosting
Affiliates
Billing Companies
Designs
Visa Mastercard fees
Marketing

You're in the hole before you even start. Especially starting late in the game.

[amacontent]

Originally Posted by SpicyM

Fan club is limited to your content while Premium is all-in-one service similar to PH Premium.

At least, producers now have the option to decide if they want to sell the scene as a single clip, or use it in a fan club or Premium. Before they added this option, they had forced everyone to sell individual clips while they would also add them to the fan club and 20% of them in Premium ... I complained that it's extremely confusing for both customers and content owners, so at least they improved it a little bit. They mix 3 different marketing models on one site without clearly explaining the differences/advantages between FanClubs and Premium.

I also complained they only promote the Premium on Xhamster video pages but not the Fan club, which makes no sense, especially if you wish to send more customers to your Fan club.

Another thing is that they are slow as fuck. It takes them several days to approve a scene.

Slow as fuck an understatement. At one point I went FIVE WEEKS before a video was approved and published.

And I don't see ANYONE joining a fan club unless you a mega company.

Unless I get a reply from Spanky telling me to stick with it and a good reason Im guessing Im done.

[SpicyM]

Originally Posted by SpicyM

I also complained they only promote the Premium on Xhamster video pages but not the Fan club, which makes no sense, especially if you wish to send more customers to your Fan club.

EDIT: I see they now promote Fan clubs on video pages too, but still mix it with the Premium service, so we can't pick just one of those two to be promoted

[SpicyM]

Originally Posted by amacontent

I don't even think thats worth it when you say keep your own money

Hosting
Affiliates
Billing Companies
Designs
Visa Mastercard fees
Marketing

You're in the hole before you even start. Especially starting late in the game.

How about Model Centro? Wouldn't that be an option?

[celandina]

Originally Posted by amacontent

I don't even think thats worth it when you say keep your own money

Hosting
Affiliates
Billing Companies
Designs
Visa Mastercard fees
Marketing

You're in the hole before you even start. Especially starting late in the game.

For a simple website:

Hosting $ 300/ month
Affiliates No need for these blood suckers
Billing Companies 7 % to 10% of gross
Designs one time $ 1,000 to 2,000
Visa Mastercard fees $ 1,000 per year for both
Marketing : roll up your sleeves and do it yourself

So lets ball park it $ 5,000 will get it going. However the content must be fresh and desirable. Anyway but what do I know

[necoeds]

Originally Posted by celandina

For a simple website:

Hosting $ 300/ month
Affiliates No need for these blood suckers
Billing Companies 7 % to 10% of gross
Designs one time $ 1,000 to 2,000
Visa Mastercard fees $ 1,000 per year for both
Marketing : roll up your sleeves and do it yourself

So lets ball park it $ 5,000 will get it going. However the content must be fresh and desirable. Anyway but what do I know

Agreed.

The premium tubes are just counting on the clowns and small production companies to be their bitches ... create content for the tubes; so they can burn the shit out of it and pay pennies

Go fuck yourselves premium tube assholes

They could be more fair and payout more to producers, instead they find reason after reason to pay less and expose your content more

I’ve taken down all of my premium content from XHamster premium and Xvideos red this week.

Pornhub premium might be next, I’m still waiting to see if they get cc proceeding back and actually keep high per view payouts. Also, they are bribing us by supplementing the lower payouts, so they still might come through; but even then, it’s too much exposure for nickels

[amacontent]

Originally Posted by celandina

For a simple website:

Hosting $ 300/ month
Affiliates No need for these blood suckers
Billing Companies 7 % to 10% of gross
Designs one time $ 1,000 to 2,000
Visa Mastercard fees $ 1,000 per year for both
Marketing : roll up your sleeves and do it yourself

So lets ball park it $ 5,000 will get it going. However the content must be fresh and desirable. Anyway but what do I know

Hey I do appreciate your input. My whole career has been producing content for others. I am working on a foot fetish site with someone I trust very much. It does seem like XHAMSTER is a waster of time... but hey the won GFY award for content creator program of the year. Wonder how much that set them back All I know is I have over 200 videos like on there and Ive made $71 fucking dollars and no one will explain WTF

[nikki99]

Originally Posted by celandina

For a simple website:

Hosting $ 300/ month
Affiliates No need for these blood suckers
Billing Companies 7 % to 10% of gross
Designs one time $ 1,000 to 2,000
Visa Mastercard fees $ 1,000 per year for both
Marketing : roll up your sleeves and do it yourself

So lets ball park it $ 5,000 will get it going. However the content must be fresh and desirable. Anyway but what do I know

fresh and good content, 2,000 a photoshoot

you need 20 photoshoots to start a good website

[amacontent]

Originally Posted by nikki99

fresh and good content, 2,000 a photoshoot

you need 20 photoshoots to start a good website

Well said Nikki

[celandina]

Originally Posted by nikki99

fresh and good content, 2,000 a photoshoot

you need 20 photoshoots to start a good website

Only if you waste time with memberships. Bad business model, unless you are well established over the years, or recycle or steal shit to no end. With $ 2000 you can shoot three model video and make 3 x 1h interesting movies. Interesting means NOT just fucking and sucking meat and potato porn for the lumpenproletariat. Something unusual, but not a porn with ugly tattooed guys who look like they OD's on steroids, females not only tattooed all over the place, but DuPont and Botox enhanced faces, tits and bodies. Of course if you shoot in California this 2K would not be enough because these "uglies" charge a 800/ scene.

But once you figure out how where and be creative, then you can set up VOD site and just like Amazon or iTunes charge per view. If you do a good job you get your $ 2,000 investment back in a week and off you go to make more.

[Porno Dan]

It really comes down to your content, some people like myself are making very good money with xHamster with Premium subscription other people are not.

While my content does well on all the premium tubes like Porn Hub Premium and xVideos Red, it performs poorly on Clips4Sale

So it really comes down to what your content is like if you make one particular platform versus another

[NALEM]

Originally Posted by Porno Dan

It really comes down to your content, some people like myself are making very good money with xHamster with Premium subscription other people are not.

While my content does well on all the premium tubes like Porn Hub Premium and xVideos Red, it performs poorly on Clips4Sale

So it really comes down to what your content is like if you make one particular platform versus another

Dan, any chance that your being friends with the people over at the above mentioned platforms, helps you gain better placement, significantly more traffic, zero skimming on revenue, and immediate deletion of any your content that is illegally uploaded by others?

Just asking for a friend, who doesn't have any friends over there.

[amacontent]

Originally Posted by NALEM

Dan, any chance that your being friends with the people over at the above mentioned platforms, helps you gain better placement, significantly more traffic, zero skimming on revenue, and immediate deletion of any your content that is illegally uploaded by others?

Just asking for a friend, who doesn't have any friends over there.

Are you saying illegally added content added to Dans platform won't be deleted because he knows people there ???

Maybe Dan does great because he WORKS HIS ASS OFF.. and Ive know Dan a very long time and her WORKS FUCKING HARD .

[NALEM]

Originally Posted by amacontent

Are you saying illegally added content added to Dans platform won't be deleted because he knows people there ???

Maybe Dan does great because he WORKS HIS ASS OFF.. and Ive know Dan a very long time and her WORKS FUCKING HARD .

Joe are you suggesting that Dan owns any of the above mentioned platforms?

There is no dispute that Dan is focused on his business, works hard to make sure he succeeds, and uses multiple platform channels to widen his viewer reach and increase his revenue.

In many ways, aren't you doing the same Joe? Yet you and Dan have completely different experiences dealing with the platforms. Why is that? Is it possible that his friendship with the folks over at the platforms, and his decision to the their voice to the industry, has given him preferential treatment?

Respectfully stated, do not be naive.

For example, when I was active in the hospitality industry I maintained long standing relationships with restaurant owners, managers, and executive chefs. Those relationships allowed me to secure a table when the reservation book is full and closed, not wait an 1.5 hour in que, have items prepared that are not found on the menu, and top of all that, often the meal was comped.

When you openly claim friendships with the those that are behind the very platforms you use, its a safe to presume, that it also yields assurances with traffic exposure, getting paid on time and in full, prompt attention (deletion) of unlicensed content published by others, etc.

[amacontent]

Originally Posted by NALEM

Joe are you suggesting that Dan owns any of the above mentioned platforms?

There is no dispute that Dan is focused on his business, works hard to make sure he succeeds, and uses multiple platform channels to widen his viewer reach and increase his revenue.

In many ways, aren't you doing the same Joe? Yet you and Dan have completely different experiences dealing with the platforms. Why is that? Is it possible that his friendship with the folks over at the platforms, and his decision to the their voice to the industry, has given him preferential treatment?

Respectfully stated, do not be naive.

For example, when I was active in the hospitality industry I maintained long standing relationships with restaurant owners, managers, and executive chefs. Those relationships allowed me to secure a table when the reservation book is full and closed, not wait an 1.5 hour in que, have items prepared that are not found on the menu, and top of all that, often the meal was comped.

When you openly claim friendships with the those that are behind the very platforms you use, its a safe to presume, that it also yields assurances with traffic exposure, getting paid on time and in full, prompt attention (deletion) of unlicensed content published by others, etc.

No Dan has been doing it much longer than me and has developed a fan base and name recognition. Where I have mostly produced content for others. Don't you be naive which you clearly are in MANY posts.
That being said looking at my XHAMSTER stats they are starting to grow with great support from Nova from XH. She's gone above and beyond to guide me. Im averaging 120k posts on PH Premium so no issues there.
And even if Dan gets help from powers to be.. SO WHAT . He's paid his dues.

And with all that being said Dan has spent much time guiding me as well . He's very busy and didn't need to take the time.

[NALEM]

Originally Posted by amacontent

No Dan has been doing it much longer than me and has developed a fan base and name recognition. Where I have mostly produced content for others. Don't you be naive which you clearly are in MANY posts.
That being said looking at my XHAMSTER stats they are starting to grow with great support from Nova from XH. She's gone above and beyond to guide me. Im averaging 120k posts on PH Premium so no issues there.
And even if Dan gets help from powers to be.. SO WHAT . He's paid his dues.

And with all that being said Dan has spent much time guiding me as well . He's very busy and didn't need to take the time.

What's important Joe, is that you are doing better now.

[amacontent]

Originally Posted by NALEM

What's important Joe, is that you are doing better now.

Thank you Sir.

[NALEM]

Originally Posted by amacontent

Thank you Sir.

You're sincerely welcome, and btw I really mean it. While we may not be friends, and we don't see eye to eye regarding the tube platforms ... you and I have met and talked on several occasions, both as your guest for a hockey match at the Staples Center up in the Suite, and in Vegas at Inter-Next. You always appeared to be friendly, and down to earth.

The same goes with Dan whom I met while he was based in LA and playing host at a Bar Lounge I believe in Burbank or Studio City.

Alex