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Applebite Media · 04-14-2021, 05:10 AM

Are you a good tipper?

Do you tip everywhere that asks you for a gratuity?

Do you over tip? If so, is it to be generous to the person you are tipping, or to show off to your friends? (I know someone like that... lol).

It seems everywhere you go, and now more and more delivery services are wanting, or even worse, automatically adding a tip to the bill.

Tipping in a restaurant, to an adult trying to support a family on min wage, that comes to your table, takes your order, brings the food to your table then has the table cleared for you... sure, that deserves a tip.

The pimple faces kid standing at the register at Starbucks, where you wait in line for your order to be taken, wait for your beverage then find a seat IMO is not tip worthy.

Grocery delivery is another... is it because it's food they feel they deserve a tip? You are paying for the service/delivery.... I mean do you tip Amazon every time they bring your FREE delivery? or UPS, FedEX?

And for some to automatically add in a tip based on the amount you spend and NOT the quality of the service that is being performed seems a bit entitled.

For me... when I go out to eat, I start with a base of 20%, the tip will go up or down based on the service. As for others... if the shopper does not send me 15-20 texts when they are doing my shopping, even though paying for the service... I will tip, mostly because if I don't I will hear about it for days from my fiancee. But I wait till the end to adjust so they don't fuck with my food

SBJ · 04-14-2021, 05:47 AM

This thread will not end well. So many people here don't believe in tipping.

I always tip decently. But I haven't been to a sit-down restaurant since Feb 2020. I would say I tipped 15-20%. If the service wasn't great then 10-12%. Also, if the girl was hot and flirting with me I might tip over 25%

Back when I went to bars I way over-tipped (up to 50%) because I knew that if I did they would always make sure I didn't have to wait for a drink.

I don't live in an area where I can get deliveries.

newB · 04-14-2021, 06:48 AM

I put myself through college waiting tables and bartending, so yes, I tip. Usually around 20% for acceptable service - going up or down from there as necessary.

Coffee shop, I'll tip a buck for my coffee.

Bellhops, a dollar a bag.

I haven't done pizza delivery in forever, but I tipped around 15%.

Uber, I go with the middle option.

Hotel maid service is the one that always tripped me up. I think $2-3 per night.

CurrentlySober · 04-14-2021, 06:50 AM

i cunt a4d2 tip...

baodb · 04-14-2021, 06:56 AM

Only for exceptional service. But I also only go to countries that make sure staff gets paid for their job to begin with. So tipping is optional...

newB · 04-14-2021, 07:03 AM

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Originally Posted by baodb

Only for exceptional service. But I also only go to countries that make sure staff gets paid for their job to begin with. So tipping is optional...

LOL - I remember being in Paris and leaving a good tip in a bar around the corner from the hotel I was staying. Another patron tried to make me take back the money saying they didn't do that there. I said "I know, but let's come back tomorrow and see who gets served first."

RyuLion · 04-14-2021, 07:42 AM

It's up to you really and how generous you want to be.
It's important if you go to the same restaurants or bars, use the same delivery service, you want them to service you at their best.

MakeMeGrrrrowl · 04-14-2021, 08:27 AM

I love tipping. I mean I absolutely LOVE it.

Now, I'm no fancy chick, so I don't eat at very expensive places usually...so that may be why I am so gracious with my tipping.

There really is nothing I love more than to know I made someone's day with a little more than they are used to.

An example is, if I eat at Denny's and the bill is 50 I will tip 30. (never know what's a good tip to other people)

baddog · 04-14-2021, 08:32 AM

Why the fuck would anyone spend $50 at a Denny's?

SBJ · 04-14-2021, 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by MakeMeGrrrrowl

I love tipping. I mean I absolutely LOVE it.

Now, I'm no fancy chick, so I don't eat at very expensive places usually...so that may be why I am so gracious with my tipping.

There really is nothing I love more than to know I made someone's day with a little more than they are used to.

An example is, if I eat at Denny's and the bill is 50 I will tip 30. (never know what's a good tip to other people)

They don't have IHOP in Location: Dreamland?

But yes I knew there was a reason why I love you.

But also I always tip more if it's a party of more than 4 or if you require them to serve you more than normal

Alex BongaCash · 04-14-2021, 09:10 AM

Always paying in restaurants or cafe's if service was at middle or higher level. Food couriers also deserve some tips I think, if food was delivered carefully.

fuzebox · 04-14-2021, 10:36 AM

j/k

I tip anyone who provides a service 20-25%. Takeout depends on the venue, whether the food/drink was assembled or just handed over, and my mood.

I also think tipping sucks and am relieved when I am in countries that don't "require" it.

CaptainHowdy · 04-14-2021, 10:39 AM

MakeMeGrrrrowl · 04-14-2021, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog

Why the fuck would anyone spend $50 at a Denny's?

You don't have a family? Kids, wife, parents?

We had a 126.00 bill the other night there. Four teen girls, dinner, and snookies add up.

MakeMeGrrrrowl · 04-14-2021, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by SBJ

They don't have IHOP in Location: Dreamland?

But yes I knew there was a reason why I love you.

But also I always tip more if it's a party of more than 4 or if you require them to serve you more than normal

We do have an IHop, but I don't love IHOP to be honest. Texas roadhouse and Denny's are my favs.

Why?

Because I can eat their beef (nachos at Denny's) and steak at texas roadhouse and not have to immediately shit as I do when I eat beef at other places.

SBJ · 04-14-2021, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by MakeMeGrrrrowl

We do have an IHop, but I don't love IHOP to be honest. Texas roadhouse and Denny's are my favs.

Why?

Because I can eat their beef (nachos at Denny's) and steak at texas roadhouse and not have to immediately shit as I do when I eat beef at other places.

Ok texas roadhouse makes up for not liking ihop lol. Then again I only like IHOP for its breakfast too.

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Originally Posted by MakeMeGrrrrowl

You don't have a family? Kids, wife, parents?

haha I was going to say that but yeah people that have no family don't get..

OneHungLo · 04-14-2021, 04:04 PM

I'm a good tipper. My favorite restaurants that I go to i will tip up to 30-40%. Same thing with grubhub/doordash. I tip the fuck out of those guys. I text them and tell them how much i'm tipping them and tip them in cash. I really don't want them fucking with my food.

LetterTwenty7 · 04-15-2021, 03:08 AM

Why tip only the bartenders? I've never understood it. At least that's what most of the people are doing, right? Why not tip someone at the electronics store for being extremely helpful and trying hard, etc. Another thing, why tip by default? Not every waiter is as good as the next guy. Life is hard.

SBJ · 04-15-2021, 03:20 AM

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Originally Posted by LetterTwenty7

Why tip only the bartenders? I've never understood it. At least that's what most of the people are doing, right? Why not tip someone at the electronics store for being extremely helpful and trying hard, etc. Another thing, why tip by default? Not every waiter is as good as the next guy. Life is hard.

because the people at the electronics store are already paid a living wage and if they have done the job for years and are good are being paid a better wage than an entry-level person

MindWaste · 04-15-2021, 04:46 AM

I used to RUN pizza's so I lived on Tips...

Applebite Media · 04-15-2021, 04:46 AM

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Originally Posted by SBJ

because the people at the electronics store are already paid a living wage and if they have done the job for years and are good are being paid a better wage than an entry-level person

If you are a counter person that performs no electronic work, they are probably not paid that well.

As for the grocery shoppers that automatically add a tip... they probably get a decent wage. Although because it's a separate company, I am sure they are not union as the grocery workers are.

I think the best example for what I mean would be Amazon. Say you have a prime membership... you are in a way, paying for that free shipping. Now along come Fresh... another membership fee to avoid delivery fees... on top of the prime membership...

Ok, so you shop Amazon say a couple times a week... get those packages in a day or two... do you tip that driver when he makes those drops?

Now you have Fresh... they deliver within a few hours... but now it's food and there is a place to tip.

Same company, two people making deliveries... yet only one do we tip.... or feel an obligation to tip.

How is this any different? You place an order, someone fills that order, someone delivers that order... the only difference is one is food.

Just part of the social brainwashing we are subjected to.

MakeMeGrrrrowl · 04-15-2021, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Applebite Media

If you are a counter person that performs no electronic work, they are probably not paid that well.

As for the grocery shoppers that automatically add a tip... they probably get a decent wage. Although because it's a separate company, I am sure they are not union as the grocery workers are.

I think the best example for what I mean would be Amazon. Say you have a prime membership... you are in a way, paying for that free shipping. Now along come Fresh... another membership fee to avoid delivery fees... on top of the prime membership...

Ok, so you shop Amazon say a couple times a week... get those packages in a day or two... do you tip that driver when he makes those drops?

Now you have Fresh... they deliver within a few hours... but now it's food and there is a place to tip.

Same company, two people making deliveries... yet only one do we tip.... or feel an obligation to tip.

How is this any different? You place an order, someone fills that order, someone delivers that order... the only difference is one is food.

Just part of the social brainwashing we are subjected to.

The difference is probably about 8.00 an hour. Servers and bartenders make like 2.00 an hour.

That's why we tip them.

fuzebox · 04-15-2021, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by MakeMeGrrrrowl

The difference is probably about 8.00 an hour. Servers and bartenders make like 2.00 an hour.

That's why we tip them.

But they also make $2 per hour because we tip them.

lock · 04-16-2021, 01:30 AM

I only tip in restaurants as is not part of our culture instead we pay a proper hourly rate.

Applebite Media · 04-16-2021, 04:00 AM

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Originally Posted by MakeMeGrrrrowl

The difference is probably about 8.00 an hour. Servers and bartenders make like 2.00 an hour.

That's why we tip them.

Well, they make more than that but it is really low... and I do agree 100%

Rochard · 04-16-2021, 08:05 AM

Always tip. If you give me anything more than "slightly above average service" I will over tip. If you give me average service I'll give you an average tip.

MakeMeGrrrrowl · 04-16-2021, 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Applebite Media

Well, they make more than that but it is really low... and I do agree 100%

Actually, they don't. At least at Denny's. I spoke with the night manager when I was there (since she was the only one working other than cook) and she specifically said it's 2.00 an hour.

newB · 04-16-2021, 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by MakeMeGrrrrowl

Actually, they don't. At least at Denny's. I spoke with the night manager when I was there (since she was the only one working other than cook) and she specifically said it's 2.00 an hour.

It may vary by state, but when I waited tables and bartended it was $2.13/hour. I actually worked a lot of hours off the clock because I was more interested in the tips than the hourly pay.

Also, servers typically have to tip out to hostesses, busboys, bartenders, and sometimes even kitchen staff. Usually it's based off sales, so if a table stiffs them the server actually loses money.

OneHungLo · 04-16-2021, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard

Always tip. If you give me anything more than "slightly above average service" I will over tip. If you give me average service I'll give you an average tip.

Relic · 04-16-2021, 10:50 AM

Here's a tip op: Move the fuck out Minneapolis immediately.

OneHungLo · 04-16-2021, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Relic

Here's a tip op: Move the fuck out Minneapolis immediately.

PornDiscounts-V · 04-17-2021, 09:00 AM

I am an over tipper.

My mother worked as a waitress and I got my allowance in ones and quarters.

So it began as a way to put a smile on some hard working woman's face. But then I realized I got better service than those around me. So I began to tip more and more.

Now I tip the valet $10-$20 and he parks my car right at the hotel/casino entrance. Then tells the bell desk they have a VIP. They grab my luggage and take me to the VIP check-in. I then pass that person a $100 bill. And they upgrade my room for the entire stay for "free" which makes out to be $500 or so off and my room is spectacular as far as the view goes. Some will also give me a card to show that basically says, give this man anything he wants. So I didn't make a reservation to eat and the line is around the corner. No problem, sir, we have your table ready for you.

At bars I might even tip the bouncers. Cannot tell you how many times that has come in handy. Lol

Maids always make sure I have everything I need proactively. Mainly because if I see them in the hallway I might give them $20 each. Suddenly they do clean your room even with covid-19 restrictions. And leave me extra water or other drinks if it's a casino. Towels like a mofo.

Door Dash on a Friday or Saturday night at 8pm? Over tip. Suddenly the 1 1/2 to 2 hour wait cuts down to 40 minutes. Same with groceries. Particularly when you are on the cusp of the end of the night and your order might get pushed into the next morning.

My 420 delivery people always bring me extra goodies.

Every place I eat at knows my entire families orders and treats us like royalty.

Local Lyft drivers learn my habits so that they will be starting their shift at the same time I'm going to dinner or a movie, or both so they begin the night with a great ride. Many that stay local work it out to also pick me up.

Tipping is a time saver and time is money.

mikeet · 04-17-2021, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Relic

Here's a tip op: Move the fuck out Minneapolis immediately.

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Originally Posted by OneHungLo

klinton · 04-17-2021, 07:38 PM

I tip only when I'm in good mood or the service is excellent.
From 5 to 15 %.
It happens maybe 1-2 times out of 10.

Also, restaurants in many countries already include "10 % service fee", when it happens, I don't tip.
and actually, I avoid that kind of places, lol

OneHungLo · 04-17-2021, 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by klinton

I tip only when I'm in good mood or the service is excellent.
From 5 to 15 %.
It happens maybe 1-2 times out of 10.

Also, restaurants in many countries already include "10 % service fee", when it happens, I don't tip.
and actually, I avoid that kind of places, lol

What a cheap bastard you are

klinton · 04-18-2021, 01:11 AM

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Originally Posted by OneHungLo

What a cheap bastard you are

seriously, wtf is with this mandatory tipping?

doesn't make sense at all

you tip because of the quality service, not because you have to.

OneHungLo · 04-18-2021, 02:54 AM

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Originally Posted by klinton

seriously, wtf is with this mandatory tipping?

doesn't make sense at all

you tip because of the quality service, not because you have to.

Yeah I've been to many countries in Europe and it's nothing like the US.

We're tip obsessed. Everywhere you go there are "tip jars" out.

NatalieK · 04-18-2021, 04:05 PM

we always tip here in Spain, it´s not needed, or expected, but it´s nice to pay for good service, I appreciate good service

04-14-2021, 05:10 AM	#1
Applebite Media Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2018 Location: Minneapolis, MN Posts: 406	Tipping? Are you a good tipper? Do you tip everywhere that asks you for a gratuity? Do you over tip? If so, is it to be generous to the person you are tipping, or to show off to your friends? (I know someone like that... lol). It seems everywhere you go, and now more and more delivery services are wanting, or even worse, automatically adding a tip to the bill. Tipping in a restaurant, to an adult trying to support a family on min wage, that comes to your table, takes your order, brings the food to your table then has the table cleared for you... sure, that deserves a tip. The pimple faces kid standing at the register at Starbucks, where you wait in line for your order to be taken, wait for your beverage then find a seat IMO is not tip worthy. Grocery delivery is another... is it because it's food they feel they deserve a tip? You are paying for the service/delivery.... I mean do you tip Amazon every time they bring your FREE delivery? or UPS, FedEX? And for some to automatically add in a tip based on the amount you spend and NOT the quality of the service that is being performed seems a bit entitled. For me... when I go out to eat, I start with a base of 20%, the tip will go up or down based on the service. As for others... if the shopper does not send me 15-20 texts when they are doing my shopping, even though paying for the service... I will tip, mostly because if I don't I will hear about it for days from my fiancee. But I wait till the end to adjust so they don't fuck with my food __________________ ================================================== ============================ Help, HELP!.... Jane, Stop This Crazy Thing!!!!!! Stop renting software! Say NO to Rentware! Take a Bite - Applebite Media

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SBJ So Fucking Fabulous Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Indiana Posts: 11,374	This thread will not end well. So many people here don't believe in tipping. I always tip decently. But I haven't been to a sit-down restaurant since Feb 2020. I would say I tipped 15-20%. If the service wasn't great then 10-12%. Also, if the girl was hot and flirting with me I might tip over 25% Back when I went to bars I way over-tipped (up to 50%) because I knew that if I did they would always make sure I didn't have to wait for a drink. I don't live in an area where I can get deliveries. __________________ Chaturbate - Make tons of money from Cams! *Name Silo - Domains under $9 and free ID protect*

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newB Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Somewhere between reality and total ape-shit bonkers. Posts: 2,870	I put myself through college waiting tables and bartending, so yes, I tip. Usually around 20% for acceptable service - going up or down from there as necessary. Coffee shop, I'll tip a buck for my coffee. Bellhops, a dollar a bag. I haven't done pizza delivery in forever, but I tipped around 15%. Uber, I go with the middle option. Hotel maid service is the one that always tripped me up. I think $2-3 per night. __________________ The best Adult Affiliate Programs reviewed and indexed by niche and feature. Easily find the sponsors that suit your needs.

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04-14-2021, 06:56 AM	#5
baodb Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2021 Posts: 103	Only for exceptional service. But I also only go to countries that make sure staff gets paid for their job to begin with. So tipping is optional...

04-14-2021, 08:27 AM	#8
MakeMeGrrrrowl Grrrrrrrrr Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Dreamland Posts: 4,974	I love tipping. I mean I absolutely LOVE it. Now, I'm no fancy chick, so I don't eat at very expensive places usually...so that may be why I am so gracious with my tipping. There really is nothing I love more than to know I made someone's day with a little more than they are used to. An example is, if I eat at Denny's and the bill is 50 I will tip 30. (never know what's a good tip to other people)

04-14-2021, 08:32 AM	#9
baddog So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: the beach, SoCal Posts: 107,089	Why the fuck would anyone spend $50 at a Denny's?

04-14-2021, 09:10 AM	#11
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fuzebox making it rain Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: seattle Posts: 22,070	j/k I tip anyone who provides a service 20-25%. Takeout depends on the venue, whether the food/drink was assembled or just handed over, and my mood. I also think tipping sucks and am relieved when I am in countries that don't "require" it.

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OneHungLo So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Location: Your mom's front hole Posts: 40,906	I'm a good tipper. My favorite restaurants that I go to i will tip up to 30-40%. Same thing with grubhub/doordash. I tip the fuck out of those guys. I text them and tell them how much i'm tipping them and tip them in cash. I really don't want them fucking with my food.

04-15-2021, 03:08 AM	#18
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04-16-2021, 08:05 AM	#26
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04-16-2021, 10:50 AM	#30
Relic So Fucking Banned Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 10,300	Here's a tip op: Move the fuck out Minneapolis immediately.

04-17-2021, 09:00 AM	#32
PornDiscounts-V Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: L.A. Posts: 5,744	I am an over tipper. My mother worked as a waitress and I got my allowance in ones and quarters. So it began as a way to put a smile on some hard working woman's face. But then I realized I got better service than those around me. So I began to tip more and more. Now I tip the valet $10-$20 and he parks my car right at the hotel/casino entrance. Then tells the bell desk they have a VIP. They grab my luggage and take me to the VIP check-in. I then pass that person a $100 bill. And they upgrade my room for the entire stay for "free" which makes out to be $500 or so off and my room is spectacular as far as the view goes. Some will also give me a card to show that basically says, give this man anything he wants. So I didn't make a reservation to eat and the line is around the corner. No problem, sir, we have your table ready for you. At bars I might even tip the bouncers. Cannot tell you how many times that has come in handy. Lol Maids always make sure I have everything I need proactively. Mainly because if I see them in the hallway I might give them $20 each. Suddenly they do clean your room even with covid-19 restrictions. And leave me extra water or other drinks if it's a casino. Towels like a mofo. Door Dash on a Friday or Saturday night at 8pm? Over tip. Suddenly the 1 1/2 to 2 hour wait cuts down to 40 minutes. Same with groceries. Particularly when you are on the cusp of the end of the night and your order might get pushed into the next morning. My 420 delivery people always bring me extra goodies. Every place I eat at knows my entire families orders and treats us like royalty. Local Lyft drivers learn my habits so that they will be starting their shift at the same time I'm going to dinner or a movie, or both so they begin the night with a great ride. Many that stay local work it out to also pick me up. Tipping is a time saver and time is money.

04-17-2021, 07:38 PM	#34
klinton So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: online Posts: 8,766	I tip only when I'm in good mood or the service is excellent. From 5 to 15 %. It happens maybe 1-2 times out of 10. Also, restaurants in many countries already include "10 % service fee", when it happens, I don't tip. and actually, I avoid that kind of places, lol

04-18-2021, 04:05 PM	#38
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