Best Science Fiction Book Written By A Woman?

[The Porn Nerd]

I say there isn't any. Aren't any? None, that's how many.

What say you?

[sarettah]

Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd

I say there isn't any. Aren't any? None, that's how many.

What say you?

You are quite the asshole sometimes, you know that?

How about just about anything by Ursula K Le Guin or Andre Norton for starters, and that is without me having to think on it at all.

Don't forget Mary Shelley, pretty much one of the originators of the genre.

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[EddyTheDog]

Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd

I say there isn't any. Aren't any? None, that's how many.

What say you?

https://www.barnesandnoble.com/blog/...eads-by-women/

[EddyTheDog]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catego...antasy_writers

Another list of over 1000...

[Look Chang]

Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd

I say there isn't any. Aren't any? None, that's how many.

What say you?

How can you affirm things about subjects you know nothing about? That is pure idiocy!

[JesseQuinn]

Originally Posted by sarettah

Don't forget Mary Shelley, pretty much one of the originators of the genre

one of my current favs is Atwood's Orxy and Crake. she doesn't describe it as 'pure sci-fi' but it's def in the genre

really wicked read

Originally Posted by EddyTheDog

https://www.barnesandnoble.com/blog/...eads-by-women/

from your link, I haven't read Madeleine L’Engle in years but man I adored her stuff as a kid

the tesseract!!! A Swiftly Tilting Planet was my fav though

[The Porn Nerd]

Originally Posted by sarettah

You are quite the asshole sometimes, you know that?

How about just about anything by Ursula K Le Guin or Andre Norton for starters, and that is without me having to think on it at all.

Don't forget Mary Shelley, pretty much one of the originators of the genre.

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Hacks all.

JK Rowling aside, where are the Asimovs and Tolkeins and Heinleins?

The ones I have read have all focused on the "relationships" aspect, just like chicks always do. Low on science, low on military action and violence, always a utopian world where everyone endlessly explores their feelings about aliens.

Where is the new Dune? Show me some SF series written by women that are as great as Arthur C. Clarke. C'mon now.

[EddyTheDog]

The Handmaids Tale took a while to grow on me, but I am getting into it along with millions of others - Written by a woman...

The Hunger Games is not for me, but massive - Written by a woman.....

[Sly]

Originally Posted by EddyTheDog

The Hunger Games is not for me, but massive - Written by a woman.....

Does anyone legitimately believe that she did not completely rip that story?

[The Porn Nerd]

Originally Posted by EddyTheDog

The Handmaids Tale took a while to grow on me, but I am getting into it along with millions of others - Written by a woman...

The Hunger Games is not for me, but massive - Written by a woman.....

Good examples of popular not equaling great. Handmaid's Tale is filled with feminist idealogy that ruins it for me (I just want slave women to fuck at will dammit) while the other suffers from a similar pro-femme Mary Sue angle.

I did enjoy the first few Anne Rice vampire novels but by book 4 or so the stories degenerated into glorified WB episodes starring lovelorn teenage vampires. Yuck.

Originally Posted by Sly

Does anyone legitimately believe that she did not completely rip that story?

Good point.

[EddyTheDog]

Originally Posted by Sly

Does anyone legitimately believe that she did not completely rip that story?

I haven't delved into that - What's the history?..

[Sly]

Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd

Good point.

And then she lies about it. There is absolutely no way she "doesn't know Battle Royale."

[Sly]

Originally Posted by EddyTheDog

I haven't delved into that - What's the history?..

I like her works just fine but go watch Battle Royale and try telling me she's never heard of it.

[AmeliaG]

Have most of you not read any science fiction since the 70's? Those are mostly 60's and 70's writers, people who wrote at a time when female authors in the genre typically wrote under initials or male pseudonyms.

Sly, regarding Collins, while I agree her best known work centers around a Battle Royale scenario, Battle Royale was such an important work that people can know the concept without having the literary background on it. Someone today could write cyberpunk without having read Gibson or Sterling or space opera without having read Heinlein or Alan Dean Foster or adult-oriented swords and sorcery without having read George R. R. Martin. But they likely couldn't do those things if giants had not come before them to put those ideas out there.

[AmeliaG]

And can we please have some opinions about authors published in the last couple decades?

[JesseQuinn]

Originally Posted by AmeliaG

And can we please have some opinions about authors published in the last couple decades?

Octavia Butler and Nalo Hopkinson ftw

[CaptainHowdy]

Simone de Beauvoir . . .

[MK Ultra]

C.J. Cherryh builds worlds like nobody else, the Alliance-Union universe is classic, Rider At The Gate gave me chills.

The Chanur series was just good fun

Foreigner is going on a little long...

[The Porn Nerd]

Originally Posted by MK Ultra

C.J. Cherryh builds worlds like nobody else, the Alliance-Union universe is classic, Rider At The Gate gave me chills.

The Chanur series was just good fun

Foreigner is going on a little long...

Thanks for the recommendation!
This is the kind of stuff I am talking about.

[MK Ultra]

Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd

Thanks for the recommendation!
This is the kind of stuff I am talking about.

I started collecting sci-fi novels when I was 12, I have over 3k paperbacks that I've moved across the US, twice.

Cherryh is one of my all-time favorites, this thread made me look to see if she has any new books out, she does and I ordered it. A continuation in the Alliance-Union universe.

So thanks for starting this thread

https://www.amazon.com/kindle-dbs/en...lectorHeade r

[ruff]

What would be the first book by C.J. Cherryh that I should read? I looked her up on Amazon, but can't tell what to get started on.

[MK Ultra]

Originally Posted by ruff

What would be the first book by C.J. Cherryh that I should read? I looked her up on Amazon, but can't tell what to get started on.

It would depend on what you like, I like the entire Alliance-Union series but they didn't seem to be in any particular order.
Good start would be:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...api_tkin_p2_i1
https://www.amazon.com/Downbelow-Sta...s%2C240&sr=8-1

If you like more "alien-human contact" type (from the alien's point of view) there's the Chanur series. more like space opera. here are the first 3 of 5 in one volume:
https://www.amazon.com/Chanur-Saga-C...s%2C232&sr=8-2
The 4th and 5th of the series:
https://www.amazon.com/Chanurs-Endga...WNXTD5YD7M5CN3
I wasn't crazy about the 5th book though.

I mentioned Rider At The Gate, a favorite of mine
https://www.amazon.com/Rider-at-Gate...09586 &sr=8-1
It gets downright spooky at times. Second book wasn't nearly as good

Then, if you want a years-long read try the Foreigner series, 22 books (and counting)
https://www.amazon.com/Foreigner-Ann...s%2C229&sr=8-3

I liked pretty much everything but the Cyteen books.

[The Porn Nerd]

Originally Posted by MK Ultra

Then, if you want a years-long read try the Foreigner series, 22 books (and counting)
https://www.amazon.com/Foreigner-Ann...s%2C229&sr=8-3

The only way I would listen to 22 Foreigner audiobooks was if Lou Gramm was singing them.

Then, maybe. LOL

[MK Ultra]

Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd

The only way I would listen to 22 Foreigner audiobooks was if Lou Gramm was singing them.

Then, maybe. LOL

late 1970s (at least I think) the Double Vision tour, Becky D. and a hit of Windowpane, ah, those were the days

[The Porn Nerd]

Originally Posted by MK Ultra

late 1970s (at least I think) the Double Vision tour, Becky D. and a hit of Windowpane, ah, those were the days

Hey I had my first kiss during "I Want To Know What Love Is" at a Foreigner show at Madison Square Garden. I remember being shocked when this slimy tongue thing slithered into my mouth. Haha! Innocence.

[MK Ultra]

Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd

Hey I had my first kiss during "I Want To Know What Love Is" at a Foreigner show at Madison Square Garden. I remember being shocked when this slimy tongue thing slithered into my mouth. Haha! Innocence.

How the fuck did we all get so old?

Anyway, try the C.J. Cherryh, I've been enjoying her books since before you made acquaintance with that tongue.

[AmeliaG]

Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd

Hey I had my first kiss during "I Want To Know What Love Is" at a Foreigner show at Madison Square Garden. I remember being shocked when this slimy tongue thing slithered into my mouth. Haha! Innocence.

How cool! I would have loved to see that tour. And at the Garden too!

[MK Ultra]

Originally Posted by AmeliaG

How cool! I would have loved to see that tour. And at the Garden too!

Yeah me too, it probably beat the hell out of the Double Vision tour 6 years earlier at the Civic Auditorium in Bakersfield. even the special effects were laughably bad, at least that's what the flashbacks are telling me.

I'm wondering how many GFYers had to look up Lou Gramm to get the Foreigner reference

Anyway, back to the holiday drinking

[ruff]

Originally Posted by MK Ultra

late 1970s (at least I think) the Double Vision tour, Becky D. and a hit of Windowpane, ah, those were the days

We used to do Windowpane by dropping it in our eye. That was wild.

[ruff]

Originally Posted by MK Ultra

Then, if you want a years-long read try the Foreigner series, 22 books (and counting)
https://www.amazon.com/Foreigner-Ann...s%2C229&sr=8-3

I liked pretty much everything but the Cyteen books.

I'll start with the Foreigner series. If she can keep it going for 22 books, seems like it might be worth taking a look at. Thx.

[ruff]

Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd

Hey I had my first kiss during "I Want To Know What Love Is" at a Foreigner show at Madison Square Garden. I remember being shocked when this slimy tongue thing slithered into my mouth. Haha! Innocence.

I did not get kissed during "Kick out the jams, motherfuckers" at an MC5 concert at the Grande Ballroom in Detroit, in 1968, but I did get a soggy burning roach though. The first of many soggy roaches.

[The Porn Nerd]

Originally Posted by AmeliaG

How cool! I would have loved to see that tour. And at the Garden too!

And it had Joe Walsh as the opening act, I do remember that too.

Originally Posted by ruff

I did not get kissed during "Kick out the jams, motherfuckers" at an MC5 concert at the Grande Ballroom in Detroit, in 1968, but I did get a soggy burning roach though. The first of many soggy roaches.

Weren't you the bass player for Soggy Roaches, that punk band back in the '70's?

[AmeliaG]

Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd

And it had Joe Walsh as the opening act, I do remember that too.



Weren't you the bass player for Soggy Roaches, that punk band back in the '70's?

For how many great songs The Eagles created both together and as solo acts, it's kind of odd they don't come up more often. I'm not sure I would have gone to the Hotel California 2020 tour, had it not been 2020'd, but was Joe Walsh good in an arena?

I saw Ministry on their most recent tour and that was only 25 years or so after their peak and it was kinda painful. I super wanted to love it.

[The Porn Nerd]

Originally Posted by AmeliaG

For how many great songs The Eagles created both together and as solo acts, it's kind of odd they don't come up more often. I'm not sure I would have gone to the Hotel California 2020 tour, had it not been 2020'd, but was Joe Walsh good in an arena?

I saw Ministry on their most recent tour and that was only 25 years or so after their peak and it was kinda painful. I super wanted to love it.

Joe Walsh was sloppy as heck, drunk off his rocker. LOL But he only did maybe seven or eight songs, the only Eagles ones being 'Life In The Fast Lane' and 'In The City'.

I saw Jethro Tull in 2012 and it was so sad. 'Locomotive Breath' was super slow, like half speed. Then again, Ian Anderson was 62 or something at the time.

[Major (Tom)]

1619 project

[JesseQuinn]

Originally Posted by AmeliaG

I saw Ministry on their most recent tour and that was only 25 years or so after their peak and it was kinda painful. I super wanted to love it.

SO not my music but there are a few tracks by Ministry I adore

get ya on the kinda feeling of seeing wicked talent no longer at the top of their game, felt the same when I went to a Pink Floyd show. my dad played them all the time (when he wasn't listening to the Soggy Roaches), think I know the lyrics by heart to most of their tracks. it was a bunch of old dudes on stage, singing about long past eras in their lives. felt kinda weird tbh

an exception would be Buju Banton's first concert after he finished his 10 year Federal US conspiracy to traffic coke sentence...man the place was on fucking fire, as was his performance. if anything he came off as more powerful than a decade ago

@PN I have some tracks from Aqualung on one of my workout playlists, I really love that album. not sure why, but I do. something about the beats I think

take you to the cinema
and leave you in a wimpy bar
you tell me that we've gone too far
come running up to me

[ruff]

Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd

Weren't you the bass player for Soggy Roaches, that punk band back in the '70's?

No autographs, please! (Great name for a band though!)

[ruff]

Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd

I saw Jethro Tull in 2012 and it was so sad. 'Locomotive Breath' was super slow, like half speed. Then again, Ian Anderson was 62 or something at the time.

I forgot that Jethro Tull opened for that very same MC5 concert in 68. He kept putting the MC5 down on stage, which was a big no-no then in Detroit. He's lucky the band didn't become the late Jethro Tull. Of course, the audience was so stoned, they didn't get pissed until several days later.

[escorpio]

Originally Posted by MK Ultra

I'm wondering how many GFYers had to look up Lou Gramm to get the Foreigner reference

Not this old fuck, I also saw them on the Double Vision tour.

[Lexi BongaCash]

The Handmaids tale

[Evil Chris]

Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd

JK Rowling

[ruff]

I hate to tell you all this, but my generation considered Foreigner right up there with David Cassidy!

[The Porn Nerd]

Originally Posted by ruff

I hate to tell you all this, but my generation considered Foreigner right up there with David Cassidy!

Funny because I put David Cassidy right up there with Ricky Nelson.

[Diomed]

Originally Posted by Sly

I like her works just fine but go watch Battle Royale and try telling me she's never heard of it.

Dead ringer

[AmeliaG]

Originally Posted by ruff

I hate to tell you all this, but my generation considered Foreigner right up there with David Cassidy!

I had the Dukes of Hazzard on my wall, not David Cassidy. It was a minute later until I discovered Foreigner but loved them.

[carolwebb]

Don't know if this counts? The Matrix was written by the Wachowski brothers, who are now the Wachowski sisters.

[The Porn Nerd]

Originally Posted by carolwebb

Don't know if this counts? The Matrix was written by the Wachowski brothers, who are now the Wachowski sisters.

It's a stretch...but I'll take it! WooHoo!

[ruff]

Originally Posted by AmeliaG

I had the Dukes of Hazzard on my wall, not David Cassidy. It was a minute later until I discovered Foreigner but loved them.

Christ, I've been confusing Foreigner for Journey. My bad, I blame the 70's for all my problems.

[BaldBastard]

What great books are written by Russian women?

[_Richard_]

Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd

I say there isn't any. Aren't any? None, that's how many.

What say you?

must be joking.. the best sci fi series is written by a woman:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vorkosigan_Saga