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celandina · 11-29-2021, 08:26 AM

After about three years of an excellent service the takedown company I have worked with, is now only doing Japanese Adult Videos. I guess they got really popular in Japan and have no room for us mortals.

I am looking for a replacement. Anybody knows somebody?
Any contact would be appreciated

Wautier · 11-29-2021, 08:33 AM

None that would care about your IP as much as you do.

Ideally; create a separate legal email address, have your counsel draft an universal template (that will work for both DMCA and EUCD notices) and have your assistant, or someone else from Fiverr send them through from your legal email address. They're going to be just as valid, and you won't have to pay loads.

I will say this as well, however: You need to have them hit the upstreams as well, and you need to make sure that they're noting how many notices were sent, and maybe, on the third or fourth notice. Pay for a fax, and fax it through with dates of every prior notice. It should note that you're going to sue both the host, and their client.

pornlaw · 11-29-2021, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Wautier

None that would care about your IP as much as you do.

Ideally; create a separate legal email address, have your counsel draft an universal template (that will work for both DMCA and EUCD notices) and have your assistant, or someone else from Fiverr send them through from your legal email address. They're going to be just as valid, and you won't have to pay loads.

I will say this as well, however: You need to have them hit the upstreams as well, and you need to make sure that they're noting how many notices were sent, and maybe, on the third or fourth notice. Pay for a fax, and fax it through with dates of every prior notice. It should note that you're going to sue both the host, and their client.

This... and as a Registered Agent for several platforms I can tell you that if your content is protected by copyright include the registration number in your DMCA takedown notice.

It will get more attention if you have protected your content.

Publisher Bucks · 11-29-2021, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Wautier

None that would care about your IP as much as you do.

Ideally; create a separate legal email address, have your counsel draft an universal template (that will work for both DMCA and EUCD notices) and have your assistant, or someone else from Fiverr send them through from your legal email address. They're going to be just as valid, and you won't have to pay loads.

I will say this as well, however: You need to have them hit the upstreams as well, and you need to make sure that they're noting how many notices were sent, and maybe, on the third or fourth notice. Pay for a fax, and fax it through with dates of every prior notice. It should note that you're going to sue both the host, and their client.

I have a formmail system setup exactly for this.

I just copy and paste a URL or two and click submit and it sends the DMCA notice to the offending parties hosting company or online store and the content gets taken down almost immediately

celandina · 11-30-2021, 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Wautier

None that would care about your IP as much as you do.

Ideally; create a separate legal email address, have your counsel draft an universal template (that will work for both DMCA and EUCD notices) and have your assistant, or someone else from Fiverr send them through from your legal email address. They're going to be just as valid, and you won't have to pay loads.

I will say this as well, however: You need to have them hit the upstreams as well, and you need to make sure that they're noting how many notices were sent, and maybe, on the third or fourth notice. Pay for a fax, and fax it through with dates of every prior notice. It should note that you're going to sue both the host, and their client.

You make no sense. I need somebody to find the illegal content, then generate DMCA notice and also do Google de listing. I pay for the service. I have NO time to chase.
Below are samples of a report .

They were averaging about 1000 DMCAs/ month using dedicated software with key words I have given to them. There is NO way anybody can fuck around with sending these manually... and did somebody mentioned fax??

I have listed as an example about 20 take downs from about a 1000 in that month:

Regular hosts:

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Filehosts:

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Google de listing:

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celandina · 11-30-2021, 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by pornlaw

This... and as a Registered Agent for several platforms I can tell you that if your content is protected by copyright include the registration number in your DMCA takedown notice.

It will get more attention if you have protected your content.

You also are talking nonsense ( read my reply to Wautier)

celandina · 11-30-2021, 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Publisher Bucks

I have a formmail system setup exactly for this.

I just copy and paste a URL or two and click submit and it sends the DMCA notice to the offending parties hosting company or online store and the content gets taken down almost immediately

You guys please read my OP. I have NO time or wish to fuck around with sending stuff manually ( see above in my example). I am looking for a service like that which:

1) finds the thieves
2) send them DMCA
3) if they ignore DMCA, go after the hosting service
4) apply to Google for de listing.
5) send me a monthly record and an invoice.

... and done

Klen · 11-30-2021, 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by celandina

You guys please read my OP. I have NO time or wish to fuck around with sending stuff manually ( see above in my example). I am looking for a service like that which:

1) finds the thieves
2) send them DMCA
3) if they ignore DMCA, go after the hosting service
4) apply to Google for de listing.
5) send me a monthly record and an invoice.

... and done

You can hire someone locally to do same ?

CurrentlySober · 11-30-2021, 09:45 AM

sorry to say it, but i clicked on just one of the links you posted, and it's still there...

BoundHeat ? The Story of Nora | Clips4Free - Free Fetish World

Havent clicked on anything else...

fuzebox · 11-30-2021, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by celandina

You guys please read my OP.

I think what they are trying to tell you is the services out there are not good.

RyuLion · 11-30-2021, 12:14 PM

Yes, hit me up at alex at ryulion.com

Publisher Bucks · 11-30-2021, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by celandina

You also are talking nonsense ( read my reply to Wautier)

You do realize you just told an attorney, that deals with this on a regular basis, he doesn't know what he is talking about, right?

Wautier · 11-30-2021, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by celandina

You make no sense. I need somebody to find the illegal content, then generate DMCA notice and also do Google de listing. I pay for the service. I have NO time to chase.
Below are samples of a report .

They were averaging about 1000 DMCAs/ month using dedicated software with key words I have given to them. There is NO way anybody can fuck around with sending these manually... and did somebody mentioned fax??

I have listed as an example about 20 take downs from about a 1000 in that month:

With all due respect, you misunderstood my post.

While you may *believe* (genuinely) that the answer is in having someone run bots/spiders against your chosen keywords, you will simply not receive the desired results.

Correct me if I'm wrong or speaking out of line here, but you want to make your content scarce, and be the one in control, and make it so that they have to purchase either a VOD version or a DVD version if you still offer them.

My point being; no one will care about those notices sent by people who are involved in running bots/spidering. They send so many notices per day to the hosts that they don't pay it attention, and if a customer chose to ignore them -- the host won't follow up because they're seen as an annoyance, not as a LEGITIMATE request from a LEGITIMATE representative.

You have a very niche product, and you don't need as much time as you believe. Type your brand name and search for illegal downloads every few days, and you can get the links in an hour.

You don't have to DMCA _every single link_, and if they say that you do: have your counsel call them out on it. If you can prove a pattern of willful infringement, and repeat abuse. You can just hit them with one of the links from the uploader, and request for his account to be terminated.

Just don't give up, or believe money-hungry people. It can be done, and it's being done.

P.S. Emails can be ignored, and claimed that they haven't been received. Every datacenter has a dedicated fax number for legal matters (subpoenas, etc) it's the next best thing to registered mail. Even though I would say that both of them are good, especially if you want to prove that you're not backing down.

Fenris Wolf · 11-30-2021, 02:00 PM

Bookmarked.

ZENRA · 11-30-2021, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by celandina

After about three years of an excellent service the takedown company I have worked with, is now only doing Japanese Adult Videos. I guess they got really popular in Japan and have no room for us mortals.

I am looking for a replacement. Anybody knows somebody?
Any contact would be appreciated

What company is this? The censored JAV industry has not been on it when it comes to takedowns for a long time (at least going by Google's Transparency Reports). Hopefully, things are changing.

AmeliaG · 11-30-2021, 03:14 PM

Probably almost everyone here has had to deal with those poorly designed bots sending inaccurate DMCA notices by the hundreds to totally legitimate and often unrelated sites. Models often hire these companies and they think it would be an insanely huge job to clean up the thousands of links. But many of their huge reports include dozens of URLs that are fundamentally one post and one notice could have addressed. Most of them also only DMCA Google, so you won't see your content searching, but all the pirate sites will continue to steal from you and distribute for free or for filelocker upsell or whatever system.

RyuLion · 11-30-2021, 07:51 PM

Lots of big companies use this Co. btw
https://digiregs.com/

celandina · 12-01-2021, 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by CurrentlySober

sorry to say it, but i clicked on just one of the links you posted, and it's still there...

BoundHeat ? The Story of Nora | Clips4Free - Free Fetish World

Havent clicked on anything else...

NOT so, the image is there but the keep2share file shows:

Quote:

This file is no longer available

celandina · 12-01-2021, 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Klen

You can hire someone locally to do same ?

Who ? They would need a software. To do it manually would not work.

celandina · 12-01-2021, 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by fuzebox

I think what they are trying to tell you is the services out there are not good.

The one I have ( but they will stop in Jan.) was excellent maybe there is another one.

celandina · 12-01-2021, 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Publisher Bucks

You do realize you just told an attorney, that deals with this on a regular basis, he doesn't know what he is talking about, right?

If he is manually scanning the Internet ( because the hardest part is the find pirated content) and faxing DMCAs then he does not know what is happening. Maybe he is still controlling and checking VHS rental stores

celandina · 12-01-2021, 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by ZENRA

What company is this? The censored JAV industry has not been on it when it comes to takedowns for a long time (at least going by Google's Transparency Reports). Hopefully, things are changing.

Send me a PM and I will tell you.

Wautier · 12-01-2021, 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by celandina

NOT so, the image is there but the keep2share file shows:

CurrentlySober is right; they're taking the mick. K2S and the other biggest file upload services will auto-accept every DMCA and delete with no questions asked.

However, the video from Streamtape is still playable, which is even better for surfers, because they don't have to buy a K2S account to download it.

They won't respond to notices, however. At least not to notices from companies that do bots/spiders like DigiRegs. If that's what you genuinely believe will help your bottom line, then send an email to Ryu.

celandina · 12-01-2021, 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by AmeliaG

Probably almost everyone here has had to deal with those poorly designed bots sending inaccurate DMCA notices by the hundreds to totally legitimate and often unrelated sites. Models often hire these companies and they think it would be an insanely huge job to clean up the thousands of links. But many of their huge reports include dozens of URLs that are fundamentally one post and one notice could have addressed. Most of them also only DMCA Google, so you won't see your content searching, but all the pirate sites will continue to steal from you and distribute for free or for filelocker upsell or whatever system.

MY guys did about 1000 take downs per month and were about 90 % successful. That was good enough for me.

Wautier · 12-01-2021, 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by celandina

MY guys did about 1000 take downs per month and were about 90 % successful. That was good enough for me.

And how much were you paying them per month?

celandina · 12-01-2021, 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Wautier

CurrentlySober is right; they're taking the mick. K2S and the other biggest file upload services will auto-accept every DMCA and delete with no questions asked.

However, the video from Streamtape is still playable, which is even better for surfers, because they don't have to buy a K2S account to download it.

They won't respond to notices, however. At least not to notices from companies that do bots/spiders like DigiRegs. If that's what you genuinely believe will help your bottom line, then send an email to Ryu.

I look at it this way every single takedown helps my bottom line.

Wautier · 12-01-2021, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by celandina

I look at it this way every single takedown helps my bottom line.

Ideally, you should run as tight a ship as possible.

DMCA screenshots -- everything. Make it a bother to pirate your movies.

They won't do it if you make it hard enough, and they will move onto someone else's.

That's why a couple of us, including Amelia, told you to not waste your time on bots.

Almost all file hosters will auto-delete, but then they will re-upload, or move onto bulletproof hosters, and their page is still up, etc. So if you're paying $100/m, fine. But if it's more than that... fuck bots.

CurrentlySober · 12-01-2021, 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by celandina

NOT so, the image is there but the keep2share file shows:

IS So... Well at least the video is available to watch in HD full screen. While I cant download it, I can still watch it...

As you can see, it even wants to helpfully let me resume my viewing from the point that I closed it before - 1.21

TaiGhost · 12-02-2021, 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Wautier

Ideally, you should run as tight a ship as possible.

DMCA screenshots -- everything. Make it a bother to pirate your movies.

They won't do it if you make it hard enough, and they will move onto someone else's.

That's why a couple of us, including Amelia, told you to not waste your time on bots.

Almost all file hosters will auto-delete, but then they will re-upload, or move onto bulletproof hosters, and their page is still up, etc. So if you're paying $100/m, fine. But if it's more than that... fuck bots.

I thought you and PornLaw and a few others have given the OP great advice. I think he is just looking for a service to manage it and hope for the best.

Cel, who is the company? You must be talking uncensored Japanese porn.

celandina · 01-28-2022, 08:05 AM

Still looking

celandina · 02-01-2022, 07:35 AM

one more bump

TaiGhost · 02-01-2022, 07:47 AM

Did you try digiregs/dmcaforce?

Depending on what you want to do you may need a lawyer's help as well.

celandina · 02-02-2022, 05:40 AM

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Originally Posted by TaiGhost

Did you try digiregs/dmcaforce?

Depending on what you want to do you may need a lawyer's help as well.

Yes I did, but we could not make it work. I have very specific requirements.

SpicyM · 02-02-2022, 06:23 AM

I'm interested too.

TaiGhost · 02-02-2022, 06:34 AM

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Originally Posted by celandina

Yes I did, but we could not make it work. I have very specific requirements.

Most or all of the dmca companies analyze your content then go looking for it. When they find unauthorized usage they send DMCA notices. They may be willing to help you document chronic thieves but for the most part, in general, thats where they stop and a lawyer starts.

Anything else has to be contractually agreed upon.
You may have requirements outside of their scope of operations and need a lawyer or lawyers to step in.

adtrafic · 02-04-2022, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by TaiGhost

Did you try digiregs/dmcaforce?

DMCA force is very bad.

You just have to search for the keywords that it is reporting and put a post with a picture of a banana and it will send DCMA reports.

Half of the content he is reporting is promotional content. And the other half is company X content and will submit the report on behalf of company Y direct competition to company X. Shady ass fuck.

The only thing it does is spam keywords, to pass very long reports to the clients it scams.

TaiGhost · 02-04-2022, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by adtrafic

DMCA force is very bad.

You just have to search for the keywords that it is reporting and put a post with a picture of a banana and it will send DCMA reports.

Half of the content he is reporting is promotional content. And the other half is company X content and will submit the report on behalf of company Y direct competition to company X. Shady ass fuck.

The only thing it does is spam keywords, to pass very long reports to the clients it scams.

First I am hearing of that. Can you show any examples?
Thanks

adtrafic · 02-05-2022, 06:12 AM

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Originally Posted by TaiGhost

First I am hearing of that. Can you show any examples?
Thanks

I can't share emails or reports or anything. But, what I say, that there is no kind of human intervention, they only report keyords.

I mean at no time do they check if it is promotional, under license or pirated. I personally did the test of creating posts by keywords with a photo of a banana and the reports keep coming.

Also, the fact that they send reports from company X on behalf of company Y from the same niche is very standard. Either because the same model filmed with both companies or because the content uses similar titles and they are just spraying the keywords.

And my theory is that these companies are the ones that pirate the most content, so the wheel of work never stops. (This last is my personal opinion, I have no evidence that can verify it)

Grapesoda · 02-05-2022, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by celandina

After about three years of an excellent service the takedown company I have worked with, is now only doing Japanese Adult Videos. I guess they got really popular in Japan and have no room for us mortals.

I am looking for a replacement. Anybody knows somebody?
Any contact would be appreciated

Seal team 6?

TaiGhost · 02-06-2022, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Grapesoda

Seal team 6?

SEAL TEAM starring David Borleanz is your best bet. ;)

ANAL PASTE · 02-06-2022, 12:25 PM

Amazing how socialist suddenly don't like the idea of sharing when it comes to their own property.

ZTT · 02-06-2022, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by ANAL PASTE

Amazing how socialist suddenly don't like the idea of sharing when it comes to their own property.

Nobody cares about c̶o̶p̶y̶r̶i̶g̶h̶t anything except their for own stuff any more.

Torrent Spider-Man and you'll have the Gestapo at your door in five minutes, but do you think if I draw a penis on a bus shelter the chairman of Sony Pictures cares when it appears in the background of someone's TikTok? Hell no. He just keeps telling me to please stop phoning him about it.

AdultB2B · 02-06-2022, 08:44 PM

Takedown Piracy.

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Wautier pleb Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2019 Posts: 212	None that would care about your IP as much as you do. Ideally; create a separate legal email address, have your counsel draft an universal template (that will work for both DMCA and EUCD notices) and have your assistant, or someone else from Fiverr send them through from your legal email address. They're going to be just as valid, and you won't have to pay loads. I will say this as well, however: You need to have them hit the upstreams as well, and you need to make sure that they're noting how many notices were sent, and maybe, on the third or fourth notice. Pay for a fax, and fax it through with dates of every prior notice. It should note that you're going to sue both the host, and their client.

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