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Old 04-01-2022, 08:31 AM   #1
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A great sci-fi trilogy

Titan is a science fiction novel by American writer John Varley, the first book in his Gaea Trilogy, published in 1979. It won the 1980 Locus Award for Best Science Fiction Novel and was nominated for both the Nebula Award for Best Novel in 1979, and the Hugo Award for Best Novel in 1980.


Some of my favorite novels are 'the forever war' and 'stranger in a strange land'
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The forever war is amazing, Im about to finish The Murderbot Diaries and then will start on Titan or Stranger in a Strange Land.

Thanks for the suggestions.
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Titan is mind boggeling...hell I should read the trilogy again.

Forever war is deff a great read. The flow up novels, not so much

Check out 'swan song' Robert maccamon
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The forever war is amazing, Im about to finish The Murderbot Diaries and then will start on Titan or Stranger in a Strange Land.

Thanks for the suggestions.

Murderbot is soooooooo good. I love the alienated social analysis. So witty it makes me literally laugh out loud.
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Old 04-01-2022, 05:37 PM   #5
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Titan is a science fiction novel by American writer John Varley, the first book in his Gaea Trilogy, published in 1979. It won the 1980 Locus Award for Best Science Fiction Novel and was nominated for both the Nebula Award for Best Novel in 1979, and the Hugo Award for Best Novel in 1980.


Some of my favorite novels are 'the forever war' and 'stranger in a strange land'
I recall liking some of Varley's take on sex a million years ago (and disliking Heinlein's), but it has been a very long time since I read either.
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Old 04-01-2022, 05:38 PM   #6
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I just finished reading the first book in Arkady Martine's series about empire. She is a professor of like Byzantine social structures and that definitely informs her work.
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Old 04-01-2022, 06:01 PM   #7
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I just finished reading the first book in Arkady Martine's series about empire. She is a professor of like Byzantine social structures and that definitely informs her work.
I just read detective novels these days. Tolkien was a professor of Norwegian languages I believe. Yes on varley and sex, dont remeber heinlines other than being old fashioned.

Joe halderman, the forever war. Check it out
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Murderbot is soooooooo good. I love the alienated social analysis. So witty it makes me literally laugh out loud.
The synopsis sounds funny
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I read the Titan - Wizard - Demon trilogy a long time ago. It remember thinking it was definitely good but not quite a classic.

Not a trilogy, but I just re-read "The Moon is a Harsh Mistress" by Heinlein. Published in 1966, it's about AI and revolution of exploited moon colonists against Earth. It struck me how much The Expanse (book and TV series) seemed to borrow from some of the basic premises. Some of Heinlein's lesser novels are quite good, and feature recurring characters.

Also, check out the Vorkosigan Saga by Bujold.
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I read the Titan - Wizard - Demon trilogy a long time ago. It remember thinking it was definitely good but not quite a classic.

Not a trilogy, but I just re-read "The Moon is a Harsh Mistress" by Heinlein. Published in 1966, it's about AI and revolution of exploited moon colonists against Earth. It struck me how much The Expanse (book and TV series) seemed to borrow from some of the basic premises. Some of Heinlein's lesser novels are quite good, and feature recurring characters.

Also, check out the Vorkosigan Saga by Bujold.
What did you think of Stranger in a strange land
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I just read detective novels these days. Tolkien was a professor of Norwegian languages I believe. Yes on varley and sex, dont remeber heinlines other than being old fashioned.

Joe halderman, the forever war. Check it out
Definitely with you there. I read a lot of detective fiction these days. I re-read everything Chandler once a decade. Recently I've been reading a lot of stuff in that chick murderers sub-genre, but like a lot of it. Actually really enjoyed the Reacher adaptation Amazon did. Have you seen that or what's your subgenre if choice?
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I read the Titan - Wizard - Demon trilogy a long time ago. It remember thinking it was definitely good but not quite a classic.

Not a trilogy, but I just re-read "The Moon is a Harsh Mistress" by Heinlein. Published in 1966, it's about AI and revolution of exploited moon colonists against Earth. It struck me how much The Expanse (book and TV series) seemed to borrow from some of the basic premises. Some of Heinlein's lesser novels are quite good, and feature recurring characters.

Also, check out the Vorkosigan Saga by Bujold.
I really enjoyed parts of The Expanse, especially the first season of the TV show and the Laconia stuff in the books. I liked the way it was both unique and true to the genre.
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I just read detective novels these days. Tolkien was a professor of Norwegian languages I believe. Yes on varley and sex, dont remeber heinlines other than being old fashioned.

Joe halderman, the forever war. Check it out

That is interesting. I know oddly little about Tolkien's background.

Depends a bit on what sort of detective novels you like, but I'd recommend Robert Kroese's The Big Sheep for a fun cyberpunk detective read to get your science fiction and detective on.
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Definitely with you there. I read a lot of detective fiction these days. I re-read everything Chandler once a decade. Recently I've been reading a lot of stuff in that chick murderers sub-genre, but like a lot of it. Actually really enjoyed the Reacher adaptation Amazon did. Have you seen that or what's your subgenre if choice?
Yes on reacher. I actually thought the Tom Cruz was better, just budgets and acting experience though. I have read all the reaches, and the other pop detectives. Do not read Patterson, too hateful or something. Not sure.
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Definitely with you there. I read a lot of detective fiction these days. I re-read everything Chandler once a decade. Recently I've been reading a lot of stuff in that chick murderers sub-genre, but like a lot of it. Actually really enjoyed the Reacher adaptation Amazon did. Have you seen that or what's your subgenre if choice?
Check this author out, Cody McFayden

The novels with Smokey Barrett, this stuff is really devious. Books like this I do not reread, too powerful emotionally for me. I reread books like forever war. Great fast-paced read. Great Sci-Fi

another powerful read: The thicket, Joe Landsdale A wild story about the old west... really really powerful
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I definitely Grok Stranger! It's a classic. I definitely need to re-read it, but remember it had some powerful messages about religion and the powers of cult.

Heinlein was a contemporary of L. Ron Hubbard. It is widely believed that Hubbard and Heinlein made a bet in a bar one night either that Hubbard could not create a religion, or to see which of the two could create a religion first. I think Heinlein could have easily turned Stranger into a Scientology-like religion if he wanted.
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Sci-fi is for children . . .
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I definitely Grok Stranger! It's a classic. I definitely need to re-read it, but remember it had some powerful messages about religion and the powers of cult.

Heinlein was a contemporary of L. Ron Hubbard. It is widely believed that Hubbard and Heinlein made a bet in a bar one night either that Hubbard could not create a religion, or to see which of the two could create a religion first. I think Heinlein could have easily turned Stranger into a Scientology-like religion if he wanted.
Yeah I haven't read that book for 50 years...
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Sci-fi is for children . . .
I started reading sci fi when I was about 10 so yeah.
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Sci-fi is for children . . .
I know you are just trolling, but what do you base that inaccurate statement on?
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I know you are just trolling, but what do you base that inaccurate statement on?
He's just having fun lol....
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