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Old 03-13-2003, 10:12 AM   #1
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Offshore European Hosting

What do you guys think of offshore hosting?
If you could get the same deal as in the US - but better legislation, 24/7 customer service, super bandwidth in a state-of-the-art datacenter - would you do it?
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Old 03-13-2003, 10:21 AM   #2
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What do you guys think of offshore hosting?
If you could get the same deal as in the US - but better legislation, 24/7 customer service, super bandwidth in a state-of-the-art datacenter - would you do it?
Spammers welcome? Not that it matters to me ;)

But yeah i'd go for it. A s h c r o f t can't get you in europe..... Yet.....
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Hej Mia - stik mig en prisliste på jeres ydelser, så kan det være jeg er interesseret.
Jeg har lige købt 4 nye enclosure fra EET til mit overvågnings project, og har brug for seriøse server huller
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Old 03-13-2003, 10:31 AM   #4
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Spammers welcome? Not that it matters to me ;)

But yeah i'd go for it. A s h c r o f t can't get you in europe..... Yet.....
That's true :-) Spammers are not welcome unfortunately. Denmark has a strict policy on spamming - the good thing is - we won't close down cause other clients spam :-)

So, what would it take to get you as a client?

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Old 03-13-2003, 10:32 AM   #5
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Hej Mia - stik mig en prisliste på jeres ydelser, så kan det være jeg er interesseret.
Jeg har lige købt 4 nye enclosure fra EET til mit overvågnings project, og har brug for seriøse server huller
Kan du give mig nogle specifikationer? Hvor meget harddisk, ram, båndbredde, rack-space osv.? Hvis du har det - kan jeg give dig et meget mere specifikt quote.

Det ville være totalt fedt ;-)

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Old 03-13-2003, 10:33 AM   #6
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Spammers welcome? Not that it matters to me ;)

But yeah i'd go for it. A s h c r o f t can't get you in europe..... Yet.....
Same logic holds for Chinese servers. Actually, a growing % of all spam sent is now origination from .cn
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really??! I didn't know that.... I guess when the USD is up then nothing's impossible huh? haha... So, what does it take to get you as a client? At least for your European traffic?? hehe...
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Old 03-13-2003, 10:38 AM   #8
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Hej Mia - stik mig en prisliste på jeres ydelser, så kan det være jeg er interesseret.
Jeg har lige købt 4 nye enclosure fra EET til mit overvågnings project, og har brug for seriøse server huller
P.S Hvad er din e-mail??
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Old 03-13-2003, 10:41 AM   #10
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Try Haven Co in the Principality of Sealand.
thanks - but do you think they have good connectivity from that Island? British Isles are usually known for their legal status, in terms of hosting gaming. But we can host that too from DK - and have much better connectivity I think :-)

http://www.ngdc.net

What do you think?

Thanks for your time, I really appreciate it :-)

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Kan du give mig nogle specifikationer? Hvor meget harddisk, ram, båndbredde, rack-space osv.? Hvis du har det - kan jeg give dig et meget mere specifikt quote.

Det ville være totalt fedt ;-)

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Old 03-13-2003, 10:58 AM   #15
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Spammers welcome? Not that it matters to me ;)

But yeah i'd go for it. A s h c r o f t can't get you in europe..... Yet.....
p.s. You're in New Jersey? I am in New York, do you ever come into the city?
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Old 03-13-2003, 11:06 AM   #16
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COMMON you guys!! There's got to be more opions out there... I really would like to know. Anyone?
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Old 03-13-2003, 11:21 AM   #17
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If an offshore host provides the same service, speed and pricing I think it'd be a no brainer that a large group of people would jump on that wagon and move their hosting offshore.

Personally I know I would, I only have 2 boxes in the US currently and within the next 6-9 months plan on having everything 100% out of the US from a hosting and legal entity standpoint...


avoiding the rush at the last minute is my thoughts on it...
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Old 03-13-2003, 11:26 AM   #18
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If an offshore host provides the same service, speed and pricing I think it'd be a no brainer that a large group of people would jump on that wagon and move their hosting offshore.

Personally I know I would, I only have 2 boxes in the US currently and within the next 6-9 months plan on having everything 100% out of the US from a hosting and legal entity standpoint...


avoiding the rush at the last minute is my thoughts on it...

That sounds great! I sort of get the same from most larger adult companies - however, I have no idea what the medium sized think. When you're interested, please let me know. You can always e-mail me at [email protected] - I will make sure you get a good deal. I appreciate the honest serious response :-)

All the best,
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That sounds great! I sort of get the same from most larger adult companies - however, I have no idea what the medium sized think. When you're interested, please let me know. You can always e-mail me at [email protected] - I will make sure you get a good deal. I appreciate the honest serious response :-)

All the best,
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I will Mia for sure, count on it.

I've had hosting on a friends box a very long time ago in .dk and I was amazed that the speed was so good, coming from such a long distance away from where I'm at...

.dk must have some good pipe for sure

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we do ;-) How's Steve by the way??
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we do ;-) How's Steve by the way??
not sure about 'steve' but the guy I was referring to went by the nick of Shaft...

really nice guy, but havent' seen/heard from him in ages...

last I heard from him was about a year or so ago and he was of course still living abroad and having a great time
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not sure about 'steve' but the guy I was referring to went by the nick of Shaft...

really nice guy, but havent' seen/heard from him in ages...

last I heard from him was about a year or so ago and he was of course still living abroad and having a great time
Oh I am sorry - I thought you worked for Steve "Lightspeed" haha.. looked at your banner :-) Sorry if I am wrong ...
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thanks - but do you think they have good connectivity from that Island? British Isles are usually known for their legal status, in terms of hosting gaming. But we can host that too from DK - and have much better connectivity I think :-)

http://www.ngdc.net

What do you think?

Thanks for your time, I really appreciate it :-)

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Actually, Sealand is not part of Britian. Its an independant country, located on an ex-British WWII anti-aircraft platform in the English channel.



As for the quality of HavenCo's bandwidth, I really can't comment. I don't host there, nor do I know of any sites hosting there. I've heard it costs an arm and a leg though.

The main selling point of HavenCo, is their very lax Acceptable Use policy: no spam, no kiddie porn, and no hacking. Other than that anything goes.

The other reason to host there is best taken from their website:
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Wow, I could imagine that would be expensive. Well, we're not, we're doing small amount of Gigs for 2USD per gig - and larger amounts for down to 0.8USD per gig...

I heard about this guy who once wanted to buy an oilrig to live on, build casino on it and have it made his own country. Is that the same rig?
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p.s. it's pretty funny - the island that Copenhagen (The capitol of Denmark) is on - is also called Sealand ;-)
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If you do any mailing, offshore is your only option.
Well, we can handle mailings - but we don't accept spam. It's sort of a: commit to 1 mbit per month - you can have 1 complaint a day etc.

But actual spam - and we have to pass on the person to another hosting company ;-(
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Well, we can handle mailings - but we don't accept spam. It's sort of a: commit to 1 mbit per month - you can have 1 complaint a day etc.

But actual spam - and we have to pass on the person to another hosting company ;-(
Cool. But, if you do have to pass them on to another hosting company, you know where to send them.
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Cool. But, if you do have to pass them on to another hosting company, you know where to send them.
Hahaha - yes of course!! haha... What goes around - comes around no?

Send me your datacenter specs - and I will know what to refer :-)

"You show me yours - I'll show you mine" hehe...
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Cool. But, if you do have to pass them on to another hosting company, you know where to send them.
p.s. I'll race you to a thousand posts! haha
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Wow, I could imagine that would be expensive. Well, we're not, we're doing small amount of Gigs for 2USD per gig - and larger amounts for down to 0.8USD per gig...

I heard about this guy who once wanted to buy an oilrig to live on, build casino on it and have it made his own country. Is that the same rig?
$0.80 a GB? I'm not sure who's paying those prices for "larger" accounts. We have 5 dedicated boxes and we're paying much much less than that. Think more than 50% less.

If you're serious about looking for real business, you're going to have to do better than that.
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$0.80 a GB? I'm not sure who's paying those prices for "larger" accounts. We have 5 dedicated boxes and we're paying much much less than that. Think more than 50% less.

If you're serious about looking for real business, you're going to have to do better than that.
Well, it kind of also depends on what bandwidth you buy? I don't know how you pay for your hosting 95%-tile, flatfee, non-burstable, crap bandwidth etc. and what carriers you get for your money. We offer redundancy, major carriers, small latencies into the US, and some of the best latencies in Europe. We don't shave people's traffic, which is why we might be a little more expensive. But everyone get's exactly what they signed up for. Also, Europe as you might now - is more expensive in terms of hosting than the US.
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$0.80 a GB? I'm not sure who's paying those prices for "larger" accounts. We have 5 dedicated boxes and we're paying much much less than that. Think more than 50% less.

If you're serious about looking for real business, you're going to have to do better than that.
p.s. would love to hear what you pay and what you get for your money. I am always trying to improve on our offers.

If you have time, please mail me at [email protected]

Thanks, I really appreciate the info.
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what are the rest of you paying per Gb?
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Not being in the US...
We probably have the best price in Canada...
As low as .40 cents per gig.
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Not being in the US...
We probably have the best price in Canada...
As low as .40 cents per gig.
That's very good - and still North American prices :-)

Legally Denmark is still more open though... However, definately like the idea of Canada too.
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That's very good - and still North American prices :-)

Legally Denmark is still more open though... However, definately like the idea of Canada too.
Mia, your right... but in Canada, those prices are just unreal.
Most big providers here ask anywhere from 2 to 7$ per gig!
Wich is just not possible for adult hosting.
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Mia, your right... but in Canada, those prices are just unreal.
Most big providers here ask anywhere from 2 to 7$ per gig!
Wich is just not possible for adult hosting.
Yeah I know. I definately will agree that Canada still beats the US :-)
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wow- gone for a couple of days - and my post has almost fallen off the board haha....
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