MojoHost - Billing update notification

[Holy Damage]

Anyone else received this lovely letter or just me?

[Fenris Wolf]

Same, a 30% increase. Effective date April 1st. Hoping it turns out to be the worst April Fools ever.

[V_RocKs]

Price of natural gas?

[Denny]

No.

[Manfap]

When was the last time they put their prices up? It's been years.

[plsureking]

Originally Posted by Manfap

When was the last time they put their prices up? It's been years.

Moore's law, the price of tech goes down not up. Unless they are upgrading your servers, your price shouldn't go up. 30% is extreme.

PornCMS prices don't go up. I copied the loyalty discount idea from CCBill and all of my long term clients eventually get a rate reduction. I also upgrade every server every 2 years out of pocket (the entire cloud).

No comparison between my services and Mojo, i have a very small niche tech biz. Yet I can weather this recession (and the last two) without taking an extra pound of flesh from my clients.

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[OneHungLo]

That’s a bold move to raise prices 30% in one clip like that.

If I had a Vacares sig I’d drop it.

[OneHungLo]

Originally Posted by plsureking

Moore's law, the price of tech goes down not up. Unless they are upgrading your servers, your price shouldn't go up. 30% is extreme.

PornCMS prices don't go up. I copied the loyalty discount idea from CCBill and all of my long term clients eventually get a rate reduction. I also upgrade every server every 2 years out of pocket (the entire cloud).

No comparison between my services and Mojo, i have a very small niche tech biz. Yet I can weather this recession (and the last two) without taking an extra pound of flesh from my clients.

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I like the way you think.

I have a tenant that I haven’t raised her rent in 18 yrs. She’s the sweetest lady that pays her rent 3 days early. Not once has she ever paid late or cause me a single issue.

[plsureking]

Originally Posted by OneHungLo

I like the way you think.

I have a tenant that I haven’t raised her rent in 18 yrs. She’s the sweetest lady that pays her rent 3 days early. Not once has she ever paid late or cause me a single issue.

<3 thats awesome

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[k0nr4d]

Originally Posted by plsureking

Moore's law, the price of tech goes down not up. Unless they are upgrading your servers, your price shouldn't go up. 30% is extreme.

PornCMS prices don't go up. I copied the loyalty discount idea from CCBill and all of my long term clients eventually get a rate reduction. I also upgrade every server every 2 years out of pocket (the entire cloud).

No comparison between my services and Mojo, i have a very small niche tech biz. Yet I can weather this recession (and the last two) without taking an extra pound of flesh from my clients.

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Yeah, different scale really. They have a ton of staff, all that staff has to heat their houses and pay electrical bills. Power costs more, so servers have to cost more. SoYouStart/OVH also seems to have more expensive dedicated servers now. 30% sucks, but it's understandable. We're trying to keep prices the same as they are as well, but we have the benefit of billing in EUR or USD but we have our own currency so I can play on the exchange rate a bit.

[Manfap]

Originally Posted by plsureking

Moore's law, the price of tech goes down not up. Unless they are upgrading your servers, your price shouldn't go up. 30% is extreme.

PornCMS prices don't go up. I copied the loyalty discount idea from CCBill and all of my long term clients eventually get a rate reduction. I also upgrade every server every 2 years out of pocket (the entire cloud).

No comparison between my services and Mojo, i have a very small niche tech biz. Yet I can weather this recession (and the last two) without taking an extra pound of flesh from my clients.

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Rise in support costs maybe? Most people have deals under the advertised rate.

[plsureking]

Originally Posted by k0nr4d

Yeah, different scale really. They have a ton of staff, all that staff has to heat their houses and pay electrical bills. Power costs more, so servers have to cost more. SoYouStart/OVH also seems to have more expensive dedicated servers now. 30% sucks, but it's understandable. We're trying to keep prices the same as they are as well, but we have the benefit of billing in EUR or USD but we have our own currency so I can play on the exchange rate a bit.

30% price hike in any industry is a pretty strong sign of poor business management. Brad mentioned last year that Mojo is a $10m a year business. they must be burning all that revenue on margaritas and yacht parties. no fucking way i would increase my prices 30% to cover bloated expenses.

that's bad mojo. just sayin'

(ps yea i heard about helping Ukraine staff. you can't force clients to pay for your charity. sell your house)

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[Brad Mitchell]

Any clients who would like to have a constructive conversation are welcome to reach out to me directly for discussion, as indicated in the support ticket I opened on their account. I’m not going to be baited by the resident troll here, who is just trolling. His views and opinions are his alone and they’re not rooted in facts or experience. I likely have individual support technicians with higher pay than his. I wouldn’t be surprised if our monthly payroll exceeds his annual revenues. His opinions don’t translate at scale. There are no yacht parties here, operations are frugal and efficient as they have always been. My wife did make me a margarita once with dinner this week.

The price increase was 4% on the overall business and affects a smaller percentage of clients with managed servers who exceeded a certain discounting percentage and minimum sales price.

All clients know how to reach me directly for discussion, anytime.

Sincerely,

Brad Mitchell

[plsureking]

Originally Posted by Brad Mitchell

I’m not going to be baited by the resident troll here, who is just trolling. His views and opinions are his alone and they’re not rooted in facts or experience. I likely have individual support technicians with higher pay than his. I wouldn’t be surprised if our monthly payroll exceeds his annual revenues.

Seems like you got baited XD bragging Brad as usual. You're kinda making my point for me tho.

I'm nowhere close to a top troll here. Some people I just don't like. GFY is one of the few places I can post my opinion. Big egos are disgusting and weak.

Enjoy your weekend!

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[OneHungLo]

Originally Posted by Brad Mitchell

I’m not going to be baited by the resident troll here

I don't think he's a resident troll just stating an opinion you don't like...and you just did.

Originally Posted by Brad Mitchell

I likely have individual support technicians with higher pay than his.

Maybe you're overpaying hence the 30% price hike.

Always heard good things about Mojohost. Don't lose your cool man.

[k0nr4d]

Originally Posted by plsureking

30% price hike in any industry is a pretty strong sign of poor business management. Brad mentioned last year that Mojo is a $10m a year business. they must be burning all that revenue on margaritas and yacht parties. no fucking way i would increase my prices 30% to cover bloated expenses.

that's bad mojo. just sayin'

(ps yea i heard about helping Ukraine staff. you can't force clients to pay for your charity. sell your house)

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Not necessarily. We've had to do even more then 30% in the dental clinics we run because of hugely increased electrical costs, increased labor costs, increased lease costs on medical equipment, increased cost of materials etc.

In the case of a server - I don't know how electrical prices are over there but they're absurd here now for businesses. If a server used to cost $40 in electricity per month and now costs $80 or $100, and you've got hundreds or thousands of those to pay for then the cost increase in exponential. If you have 10 you gotta worry about, it's not so bad.

Everything is more expensive now. Groceries, bills, a haircut, car service, mortgages, leases, everything... we can grumble about it but not much we can do.

[plsureking]

Originally Posted by k0nr4d

Everything is more expensive now. Groceries, bills, a haircut, car service, mortgages, leases, everything... we can grumble about it but not much we can do.

Not much that can be done when the shit hits the fan. Preparation, planning, and saving has to happen leading up to a financial crisis. I didn't pass my rising costs to my clients because I know they're all struggling too. I live frugally, watch my expenses, have zero debt, and I can ride thru a long recession. Brad isn't the only host raising rates. Most of them are doing it. I'm just eating the cost instead of passing it along. I have a rare philosophy on wealth and greed I guess.

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[sandman!]

Every datacenter has raised rates in the last 12 months it sucks but there is not much you can do about it.

[dUbster]

I don't know why there are so many people fixated on mojohost, there are so many good, reliable hosts out there for a lot less money

[Markul]

The increase is not big. In my case it's 5% and that is totally acceptable. Brad runs a tight ship and their service is outstanding.

[Zuzana Designs]

I think we're all pretty used to things having to increase by now and, hopefully, understand why. I don't know of anything that's not increased over the last couple of years. It sucks but what can we do?

I'm thankful for Mojohost and their second-to-none customer service. They go above and beyond. I have some pretty wild requests for hosting and they always come through. This weekend they set up a Minecraft server and even did all of the custom mods that were needed. That's good Mojo!

They're the only host I'll recommend because I've never had a single complaint about them and clients have been nothing but thankful that I referred them to Mojo. The amount of time and resources Brad donates to this industry is admired by me and I wish more people followed the same ethics as Mojo and Brad...

Now, if there is a yacht party with margaritas, I hope I'm invited because I could use a vacation and a drink!

[AmeliaG]

There is no reason to be mean about it. I know this is GFY and all, but FFS.

Totally useful to have a thread about the increase, as this is big news for our industry.

At the end of the day, make a choice that fits your business and your budget. Weigh what you get from Mojohost in terms of support, performance, and pricing versus the handful of other quality adult-friendly hosts, and make the best decision for your business.

Because Brad is very likeable and accessible, some clients may choose to pay a premium, even if there is a premium. Yes, how you personally feel about the situation in Ukraine may impact your choice, but please think how awful the situation is for people actually in or from that part of the world.

As Zuzana and Konrad pointed out, a lot of things are increasing. A few weeks ago, I paid over $5 a pound for organic broccoli because of "temporary supply chain issues" Whole Foods and Trader Joe's had no organic broccoli, so I chose to pay the high price to Natural Grocers, and, no doubt, some people just bought different veggies.

So, yes, inflation plus a host of disruptions are changing the way most people budget and price. But these kinds of choices are just part of reality and almost everyone has to figure out how to manage, adjust, and pivot as needed. A little kindness.

[2MuchMark]

When it comes to hosting solutions, the market offers an abundance of options to choose from. As someone who works in IT, specifically in server and network management, I have had experience with multiple hosting providers over the years. Among them, TMDHosting.com (https://tmdhosting.com) has become my preferred choice since approximately 2017 (note: this is not an affiliate link). What stands out to me most about TMDHosting is their rapid and thorough technical support. Their ticket system is simple to use, and I consistently receive detailed responses to my inquiries within 15 minutes, even on weekends and holidays such as Christmas.

(And yes, they accept adult website clients)

I have observed that users often over-provision when selecting a hosting provider, such as by acquiring dedicated servers or unnecessarily high-spec machines for the websites or web services they aim to run. In some cases, sales representatives at certain hosting providers tend to encourage customers to spend more than necessary on hardware and services that do not meet their needs.

For those who possess technical knowledge, particularly familiarity with cPanel, I also recommend Linode (https://linode.com) as a reliable hosting option (note: this is not an affiliate link). With Linode, it is possible to set up a server running cPanel and Wordpress for only $5.00 per month at the data center of your choice.

If your current hosting provider is increasing its rates or demonstrating inadequate customer support, I advise taking the time to seek out alternative options. There is a wide range of providers to choose from. If you require assistance in selecting a provider or provisioning your server(s) to meet your specific needs, while also allowing for easy expansion in the future, I would be happy to offer my expertise.

[Holy Damage]

Originally Posted by dUbster

I don't know why there are so many people fixated on mojohost, there are so many good, reliable hosts out there for a lot less money

Can you share some of these?

[Holy Damage]

Originally Posted by Fenris Wolf

Same, a 30% increase. Effective date April 1st. Hoping it turns out to be the worst April Fools ever.

30% here as well

[Oracle Porn]

Originally Posted by AmeliaG

how you personally feel about the situation in Ukraine may impact your choice, but please think how awful the situation is for people actually in or from that part of the world

I don't post here much now a days, but the email I received did make me come here and lurk around. I wouldn't have posted in this thread but I am really wondering what does that mean? Am I being asked to pay more because of the situation in Ukraine, or because stuff is just more expensive? Do I need to boast around that I had to leave my life and my home that I built with my family on Feb 24th 2022? Should this be the ace down my sleeve for my price not to rise? Or do I need to share the costs of other unfortunate people like me? I am really confused...

[2MuchMark]

Originally Posted by Holy Damage

Can you share some of these?

Checkout https://tmdhosting.com

They will even take care of migrating your site and data over to your new server for you, and, they give you a 30 day money-back guarantee.

[2MuchMark]

Originally Posted by plsureking

Moore's law, the price of tech goes down not up.

Not quite Moore's law, but yes tech prices go down almost every day.

Originally Posted by sandman!

Every datacenter has raised rates in the last 12 months it sucks but there is not much you can do about it.

Of course there is. You can always call and negotiate a better price, or re-provision your servers to cut costs, or even do both (I've done it myself).

Hosting prices should go down, not up, for several reasons. Firstly, servers today are more powerful yet cost less. The cost of hardware components such as processors, RAM, and storage has decreased significantly over the years. As a result, hosting providers are able to offer more powerful servers at lower prices. This means that customers can get better performance for less money, which is a win for everyone.

Secondly, virtualization has made hosting cheaper than ever. Virtualization technology allows multiple virtual servers to run on a single physical server. This means that hosting providers can maximize the use of their hardware, reducing the need for additional physical servers. This translates to lower costs for both the provider and the customer.

Thirdly, competition among hosting providers is fierce. There are a large number of hosting providers in the market, which means that customers have a lot of options to choose from. This competition drives providers to offer better services and lower prices in order to attract and retain customers.

If you're not happy with your hosting provider, switch. If you like your hosting provider and want to stay, Call them and negotiate a better rate. Since competition is fierce as I said earlier, they should really want to keep you, and should really offer you a good deal - hopefully better than you can get anywhere else.

[k0nr4d]

Originally Posted by dUbster

I don't know why there are so many people fixated on mojohost, there are so many good, reliable hosts out there for a lot less money

Specifically? There are cheaper hosts out there like OVH or Leaseweb, Mojohost is managed hosting so they handle a lot of stuff that other hosts will not. If your server at OVH goes down they really don't give a shit if it's down a day or two even. The support at Mojo is second to none - and I deal with a lot of web hosts - and they are very familiar with the specific needs of the adult industry which is worth something as well.

[k0nr4d]

Originally Posted by plsureking

I'm just eating the cost instead of passing it along. I have a rare philosophy on wealth and greed I guess.

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You are able to eat the raising costs because you are operating on a vastly different margin then a webhost operates on. Your costs probably aren't directly dependent on your revenue - they're mostly flat and static - whereas for a webhost every new customer is a new cost since they have to buy/lease a server, pay electricity. At best they might have bandwidth without additional cost because they're over-bought.

[plsureking]

Originally Posted by k0nr4d

You are able to eat the raising costs because you are operating on a vastly different margin then a webhost operates on. Your costs probably aren't directly dependent on your revenue - they're mostly flat and static - whereas for a webhost every new customer is a new cost since they have to buy/lease a server, pay electricity. At best they might have bandwidth without additional cost because they're over-bought.

PornCMS is a hosted service. clients aren't required to get their own servers. i lease and manage all of the servers hosting PornCMS sites. its true, i don't add and subtract hundreds of clients per month, but neither does Mojo.

this thread isn't about fluctuating revenue, its about excessive expenses. the guy bra(d)gged about paying his support staff more than me. if that's the case, then it explains their overpriced hosting products. dumb thing to brag about in a thread discussing a rate hike.

this is a fairly nice thread for gfy. most of us come here to let off steam and avoid having to censor our comments. there's a few who come here to push their overpriced hosting

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[Holy Damage]

Originally Posted by 2MuchMark

Checkout https://tmdhosting.com

They will even take care of migrating your site and data over to your new server for you, and, they give you a 30 day money-back guarantee.

thanks for the info... i will get in touch with them

[Major (Tom)]

It’s not too bad, but adding a fee on Credit cards hurt too. I understand fully though. It’s unfortunate that paysites can’t really raise prices. Come to think of it my prices have been the same since 2003.

Brad, is it because of the recession and inflation? I’m feeling a pinch because of it.

[Major (Tom)]

Originally Posted by V_RocKs

Price of natural gas?

I’m sure all their back up generators are electric/battery

[2MuchMark]

Originally Posted by Holy Damage

thanks for the info... i will get in touch with them

My pleasure. Good luck!

[2MuchMark]

On a related note, there is actually nothing stopping anyone from becoming their own hosting provider.

If you are the kind of person that does not require alot of technical support from your host, then why not save the money and do it yourself?

Here is a really quick way to do it.

#1. Go to https://www.linode.com and create an account. If you are prompted for a coupon code, try using "Network chuck" to get a free month.

#2. Go to marketplace, Choose cPanel, and install it on the smallest shared server at $5.00 per month. You can easily expand it later if you need to. Or if you don't need multiple domains and need something simple like a Wordpress site, choose Wordpress instead. (If you need both, choose cPanel first and then install Wordpress from it).

#3. Once setup, point your domains to it like you would any other (Or just point your A-records if all you need is web hosting).

#4 (Optional): Turn this into a business by add WHMCS from https://www.whmcs.com (Only $18.95 per month).

The above setup lets you run your own webhosting business in the cloud, and sell hosting and other services to your clients. If you are your only client and prefer to keep it that way, then you can skip #4.

[AMDWarrior]

Originally Posted by dUbster

I don't know why there are so many people fixated on mojohost, there are so many good, reliable hosts out there for a lot less money

Well thats just false, and you get what ya pay for. MOJO has that reputation for a reason.

[Tjeezers]

Their quality support team of engineers, wp nerds, and overenthusiastic helpers that actually learn me a thing or 2 have proven to be worth the investment, as they provide me with peace of mind and allow me to get sleep.

If they raise, I will pay, with pleasure.

[bgmen]

I think you don't understand what managed servers mean. You pay more for the specialists than for the hardware, and since inflation is serious everywhere, it is normal for their services to become more expensive. If you don't like it, rent a server, learn Linux, and maintain it yourself, as I do for example.

[2MuchMark]

Originally Posted by bgmen

I think you don't understand what managed servers mean. You pay more for the specialists than for the hardware, and since inflation is serious everywhere, it is normal for their services to become more expensive. If you don't like it, rent a server, learn Linux, and maintain it yourself, as I do for example.

That's actually an important distinction that I should have mentioned earlier. https://linode.com offers unmanaged servers, which is perfect for those who know or who want to know linux, and be more hands-on. https://tmdhosting.com on the other hand provides managed servers where everything is setup and adjusted for you, letting you focus on your business instead of the machines themselves.

[bgmen]

TMD Hosting's prices really look good for servers with full support, but the others you recommend are not at all cheaper or better than Mojo.

[2MuchMark]

Originally Posted by bgmen

TMD Hosting's prices really look good for servers with full support, but the others you recommend are not at all cheaper or better than Mojo.

The only other one I recommended was Linode, but they are unmanged servers... meaning they are only good for you if you really know what you're doing. Personally I choose managed servers for most of my stuff, and use only unmanaged for special projects.

[VladS]

For years working with various hosting companies, MojoHost is one of the few i recommend to clients asking for hosting. As you guys know, their support is very good and they are adult oriented, easy to understand your needs.

As i understand it, the raise is not 30% globally to all clients, so perhaps you guys try to contact them and see exact what is the best option for you?

Offtopic @Zuzana if i send over the margaritas, will you please accept my apologies?

[Major (Tom)]

I’m sticking with the brad. His support is amazing and he’s helped me in so many ways. He’s a man of character and good report. Not only that he’s my friend.

Duke

[King Mark]

Brad is a cool dude. Went above and beyond for me years ago and made something special and exclusive for me. He probably doesn't even remember, but I don't forget good people and appreciate them forever.

But still, the flex in this thread was corny. Doesn't make Brad a bad dude, just a corny moment in his GFY career. Happens to everybody when emotions take over. The troll got em 🤣

That's all. MojoHost is still my top #1 host when I make recommendations. And I make those recommendations with enthusiasm and successful personal experience.

[Brian mike]

FREE Beer on Mojo at Party's AKA Branding Marketing is Key here that Brad successfully delivers with Good service I guess ....

Originally Posted by dUbster

I don't know why there are so many people fixated on mojohost, there are so many good, reliable hosts out there for a lot less money

But....
OVH pricing + your own Server admin = Best way to do it! ( save LOTS of money and Keep Total control)

I would not want to rely on Hosting + support at same company anymore.
( For so many reason ..... ex: hosting bullshit you with stories / your server admin will tell you) vice versa......)

The rule of " don't put all your eggs in the same basket, apply here " !

[NoWhErE]

I don't get all the drama. Prices for hosting everywhere are going up. OVH, Stackpath, etc have all increased their prices lately.

[NatalieMojoHost]

Just to clarify - this wasn't a 30% increase on costs across the board. Accounts that were discounted exceptionally deeply had about a third of their discount removed. If you think your cost after the increase isn't a fit for your current needs, reach out for a review and let's discuss it.

[NETbilling]

Brad runs an exceptional business,offers a great service at reasonable prices. NETbilling even hosts a couple of our non-transaction processing servers at Mojo. Mojo support is awesome as is Brad and his crew.

Mitch

[Denny]

It looks like the prices of everything go up, except the porn memberships