How to start a small paysite or similar? - GoFuckYourself.com

CamRabbit · 03-28-2023, 04:40 PM

Lol my last visit was in 2016...

I shoot own content and want to start a small paysite, like avs in old good days, what are the options today to sell videos except xvideos or hub? Since I am not an actor, I can't start onlyfans page, but I want to shoot and publish interesting videos, to talk with fans and so on, to build the brand, small community. Are any publishers who are working with small studios, I think I am not the only one for sure

Sorry, but I can't understand how to ask the right questions after a break, thanks a lot in advance for any advice.

NoWhErE · 03-28-2023, 04:56 PM

You want to start a traditional paysite? I hope you have traffic.

The basic tools you’ll need:

- hosting
- video cdn
- member’s area cms (prolly elevated X if you’re not tech saavy)
- NATS for cascade billing, affiliate program and linkcode stats tracking
- create channels on all the big tubes
- upload your content on your official channels
- sell your content on every clip store available (c4s, xvideos red, pornhub premium, etc etc)
- integrate cams, dating and similar paysites in your MA, ideally with 1-click upgrades
- setup a mailing solution to remarket to every damn email you collect

That’s the most generic setup. You can go with a simpler setups like with a CCbill only solution, but I highly recommend you get multiple processors in a cascade to increase your chances of sales going through.

I could go on and on for hours on the fine details on each step… but really the one thing you need is traffic. If you don’t have it, that’s the first thing you need to get.

TLDR; the core thing you need before thinking of setting up a paysite is your own traffic. Don’t depend on affiliates to generate sales.

The second most important thing you’ll need is a good processing setup. So much money is left on the table if you only use 1.

The 3rd most important aspect of running a paysite is knowing how to increase the average member value. Upsales, retention, remarketing will be your bread and butter.

Recycling your content on other platforms will help you bring in that extra money you’ll need to cover your shoot expenses

CurrentlySober · 03-28-2023, 05:05 PM

Every thing NoWhErE just said above...

Or...

Just sign up to https://modelcentro.com/ with a studio account, and let them take care of it.

No Ref Link - Genuine suggestion to help you get started

NoWhErE · 03-28-2023, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by CurrentlySober

Every thing NoWhErE just said above...

Or...

Just sign up to https://modelcentro.com/ with a studio account, and let them take care of it.

No Ref Link - Genuine suggestion to help you get started

True! Going with an all-in-one solution if you're just starting out is a cheap and efficient way to get up and running.

CamRabbit · 03-28-2023, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by NoWhErE

True! Going with an all-in-one solution if you're just starting out is a cheap and efficient way to get up and running.

I am starting from scratch after a long break, yep modelcentro was already in mind, thanks for sharing.

OneHungLo · 03-28-2023, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by CamRabbit

I am starting from scratch after a long break, yep modelcentro was already in mind, thanks for sharing.

What kind of content do you shoot?

CamRabbit · 03-28-2023, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by OneHungLo

What kind of content do you shoot?

teachmyass.com, youngthroats.com, assteenmouth.com are my past works, now mix of reality and gonzo

plsureking · 03-28-2023, 06:09 PM

PornCMS.com

PornCMS.com starting at $49 a month. daily paysite management and security experience. worth a look.

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RyuLion · 03-28-2023, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by CamRabbit

teachmyass.com, youngthroats.com, assteenmouth.com are my past works, now mix of reality and gonzo

Did you sell brothersincash.com?
They used to have way more sites now they will list 5.

CamRabbit · 03-28-2023, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by RyuLion

Did you sell brothersincash.com?
They used to have way more sites now they will list 5.

I was just a general producer.

OneHungLo · 03-28-2023, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by CamRabbit

I was just a general producer.

Are you based in the US?

adultinnovation · 03-29-2023, 03:19 AM

if you wanna go broke invest in starting your own paysite

CamRabbit · 03-29-2023, 03:30 AM

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Originally Posted by OneHungLo

Are you based in the US?

Nope, somewhere in between east and west.

CamRabbit · 03-29-2023, 03:35 AM

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Originally Posted by adultinnovation

if you wanna go broke invest in starting your own paysite

Thanks for sharing, already was broke twice, so it is not a problem

CaptainHowdy · 03-29-2023, 03:48 AM

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Originally Posted by plsureking

PornCMS.com

PornCMS.com starting at $49 a month. daily paysite management and security experience. worth a look.

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V_RocKs · 03-29-2023, 03:51 AM

https://www.zishy.com/

That guy did it. He built it and came here and everyone laughed at him for having softcore stuff and no "real models"... Now he is laughing all the way to the bank.

plsureking · 03-29-2023, 05:44 AM

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Originally Posted by CamRabbit

Nope, somewhere in between east and west.

Hawaii?

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Woody W. · 03-29-2023, 06:50 AM

+1 for NoWhErE's guide/tips. As for a CMS, it is also worth checking out KVS and Mechbunny scripts.

DVTimes · 03-29-2023, 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by CurrentlySober

Every thing NoWhErE just said above...

Or...

Just sign up to https://modelcentro.com/ with a studio account, and let them take care of it.

No Ref Link - Genuine suggestion to help you get started

Yes

https://modelcentro.com/

If you plan on shooting 4k vids then this is a good option.

I use them for all my sites.

They deal with hosting, website, payment, affiliate and so on. All you do if upload your content.

If you plan on doing it yourself them you need a site, dedicated server and all the other stuff.

But do not expect to make a million day one. Years ago you could set up a site and it made cash. Today it is harder. However many quit too early. Often they are put off because they have few sales when they have only uploaded two films and two sets of pics.

Before you do anything, make sure you have a decent brandable domain name as this can make a huge difference in sales. Try to get a .com.

CamRabbit · 03-29-2023, 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by plsureking

Hawaii?

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I wish so

but not yet

OneHungLo · 03-29-2023, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by CamRabbit

Thanks for sharing, already was broke twice, so it is not a problem

That's not true anyways. A friend came back after a hiatus and rebuilt and is now pulling 500k a yr in profit with a paysite.

fuzebox · 03-29-2023, 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by V_RocKs

Now he is laughing all the way to the bank.

I don't know if anyone's definition of bank is the same

fuzebox · 03-29-2023, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by NoWhErE

TLDR; the core thing you need before thinking of setting up a paysite is your own traffic. Don’t depend on affiliates to generate sales.

As a producer it is still very possible to grow a new paysite using tube traffic. What JT did ten years ago with faketaxi etc (shoot for the tubes, edit tube friendly clips, build a typein brand) is still possible today.

DVTimes · 03-29-2023, 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by fuzebox

As a producer it is still very possible to grow a new paysite using tube traffic. What JT did ten years ago with faketaxi etc (shoot for the tubes, edit tube friendly clips, build a typein brand) is still possible today.

But the key too is to make somthing different.

Faketaxi was different, not just the idea of being shot in a taxi, but using the gopro gave it a sexy feel. It felt it was real footage from an taxi cam.

One problem has been a lot of porn is the same.

If you want to make $$$ then I suggest make something no one has seen.

I see a lot made that to be honest I would not bother with if it is free on a porntube site.

fuzebox · 03-29-2023, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by DVTimes

But the key too is to make somthing different.

Faketaxi was different, not just the idea of being shot in a taxi, but using the gopro gave it a sexy feel. It felt it was real footage from an taxi cam.

One problem has been a lot of porn is the same.

If you want to make $$$ then I suggest make something no one has seen.

I see a lot made that to be honest I would not bother with if it is free on a porntube site.

FakeTaxi was just the lastest in Bangbus rip offs. The fact that it was UK based actually worked against it.

There are other sites with fairly generic porn that did the well on the tubes, like PropertySex.

Editing and consistency of uploading is what makes the money, not a clever or unique idea.

The Porn Nerd · 03-29-2023, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by fuzebox

FakeTaxi was just the lastest in Bangbus rip offs. The fact that it was UK based actually worked against it.

There are other sites with fairly generic porn that did the well on the tubes, like PropertySex.

Editing and consistency of uploading is what makes the money, not a clever or unique idea.

NoWhErE · 03-29-2023, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by fuzebox

As a producer it is still very possible to grow a new paysite using tube traffic. What JT did ten years ago with faketaxi etc (shoot for the tubes, edit tube friendly clips, build a typein brand) is still possible today.

For sure. Its still possible, but unlikely.

Also JT used to own Youporn and new how to harnest the power of tubes. That was a huge advantage for him

My advice is generic and assumes OP doesn’t have an ace up his sleeve

Klen · 03-29-2023, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by fuzebox

FakeTaxi was just the lastest in Bangbus rip offs. The fact that it was UK based actually worked against it.

There are other sites with fairly generic porn that did the well on the tubes, like PropertySex.

Editing and consistency of uploading is what makes the money, not a clever or unique idea.

True, and that does not apply only to adult, but anything these days. Even the best idea on the world have no use if you are not doing proper marketing.

CamRabbit · 03-29-2023, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by NoWhErE

My advice is generic and assumes OP doesn’t have an ace up his sleeve

No aces/jokers, I am not in a rush for big $$$ - mostly for fun and to cover costs

fuzebox · 03-30-2023, 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by NoWhErE

For sure. Its still possible, but unlikely.

Not with that attitude

plsureking · 03-30-2023, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by fuzebox

Not with that attitude

for sure. the only way to fail is to fail to work.

get up, work until you are tired. go to bed. get up. work again.

at least until the project is making a return of some sort (money, pride, entertainment).

how many traffic trade requests can you send in a day? how many press releases and newsletters can you send out in a week? how many tube posts can you upload?

the people failing are the ones sitting around gfy all day saying "there's no money in porn" and posting in politics for hours. there's no money for those mofos because they aren't spending time on profitable tasks.

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03-28-2023, 04:40 PM	#1
CamRabbit Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 574	How to start a small paysite or similar? Lol my last visit was in 2016... I shoot own content and want to start a small paysite, like avs in old good days, what are the options today to sell videos except xvideos or hub? Since I am not an actor, I can't start onlyfans page, but I want to shoot and publish interesting videos, to talk with fans and so on, to build the brand, small community. Are any publishers who are working with small studios, I think I am not the only one for sure Sorry, but I can't understand how to ask the right questions after a break, thanks a lot in advance for any advice. __________________

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03-28-2023, 04:56 PM	#2
NoWhErE Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Canada Posts: 10,196	You want to start a traditional paysite? I hope you have traffic. The basic tools you’ll need: - hosting - video cdn - member’s area cms (prolly elevated X if you’re not tech saavy) - NATS for cascade billing, affiliate program and linkcode stats tracking - create channels on all the big tubes - upload your content on your official channels - sell your content on every clip store available (c4s, xvideos red, pornhub premium, etc etc) - integrate cams, dating and similar paysites in your MA, ideally with 1-click upgrades - setup a mailing solution to remarket to every damn email you collect That’s the most generic setup. You can go with a simpler setups like with a CCbill only solution, but I highly recommend you get multiple processors in a cascade to increase your chances of sales going through. I could go on and on for hours on the fine details on each step… but really the one thing you need is traffic. If you don’t have it, that’s the first thing you need to get. TLDR; the core thing you need before thinking of setting up a paysite is your own traffic. Don’t depend on affiliates to generate sales. The second most important thing you’ll need is a good processing setup. So much money is left on the table if you only use 1. The 3rd most important aspect of running a paysite is knowing how to increase the average member value. Upsales, retention, remarketing will be your bread and butter. Recycling your content on other platforms will help you bring in that extra money you’ll need to cover your shoot expenses

03-28-2023, 05:05 PM	#3
CurrentlySober Too lazy to wipe my ass Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: A Public Bathroom Posts: 38,484	Every thing NoWhErE just said above... Or... Just sign up to https://modelcentro.com/ with a studio account, and let them take care of it. No Ref Link - Genuine suggestion to help you get started

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V_RocKs Damn Right I Kiss Ass! Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Cowtown, USA Posts: 32,391	https://www.zishy.com/ That guy did it. He built it and came here and everyone laughed at him for having softcore stuff and no "real models"... Now he is laughing all the way to the bank.