Are you noticing many young now have heart problems?

[DVTimes]

It is almost each day that someone young dies of heart problems.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/a...y-aged-32.html

Another trend I have started to see is young people who do not smoke get cancer and die within days or weeks.

I am being open minded, and not going to say it is because of the vaccine. Someone said perhaps the COVID itself could be doing this. Or indeed it may have nothing to do with covid but what we are eating or drinking, or indeed perhaps the rates are no different and simply just being reported more than they once were.

I must make it clear presuming anything is foolish.

[DVTimes]

He is not particularly old.

[Yamato]

No. I don't know anyone.

[dUbster]

Keep getting those vaccines, interesting how it all started within the last 2-3 years, hmm I wonder why

[notinmybackyard]

Over my very long lifetime I've seen society change from being 90% physically active people who ate healthy food to fat slobs who sit on their asses all day and whine about everything. Most people today live in a state of sudden death caused by the strain of pushing too hard while sitting on the toilet. To make things worse, today more pot is smoked in a week than the combined amount of the 60s and 70s.

Oh and I'm sure the jab didn't help the situation.

[pornmasta]

There are more mosquitoes carrying airborne diseases, therefore the culprit is obviously global warming

[TheLegacy]

Of course the fact that heart disease in young adults has slowly increased due to smoking, obesity, lack of physical activity, and other reasons that put pressure on the cardiovascular system has nothing to do with getting the jab so ya - let's blame that


https://wexnermedical.osu.edu/mediaroom/pressreleaselisting/heart-survey-2023#:~:text=A%20study%20in%202019%20shows,for%20D isease%20Control%20and%20Prevention.

A study in 2019 shows heart attacks in people under age 40 have been increasing over the past decade. This is partly because conditions that lead to heart disease such as obesity and high blood pressure are leading to heart disease at younger ages, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. In Ohio State’s survey, 46% of adults under age 35 said they don’t believe high blood pressure is a health risk for them.


oh then again another researcher says

https://www.healthcentral.com/condit...n-young-adults

The rise in heart attacks among young adults is something Robert Roswell, M.D., co-director of cardiac ICU at Lenox Hill Hospital in New York City, has witnessed firsthand. “Heart attacks are growing steadily in younger populations,” he says, pointing to a sedentary lifestyle as a leading culprit. “Generally speaking, obesity in this group has grown over the decades. Less movement, plus less exercise, plus poor food choices equal poorer health outcomes including more heart attacks.”

In addition, some new research points to COVID-19 contributing to the uptick.

A 2022 study of 150,000 people with COVID-19 showed that even a full year after initial infection, the risk for developing a heart condition, such as irregular heartbeat, heart failure, inflammation, or heart attack, was "substantial." A co-author of the study estimates that 4% of individuals with COVID-19 will go on to experience heart complications, which may seem small until you consider that, to date, it's estimated that at least half of all Americans have had COVID, per the CDC, with many more likely to become infected here and around the globe in the coming months and years. And long COVID has also been shown to lead to heart problems in some people, with risk for cardiovascular issues rising with multiple infections, according to research conducted by Washington University School of Medicine in St. Louis.


Covid itself is what caused the increase NOT the jab - but of course if you want to go along with that you're more than welcome too... I mean.. geez.. science eh? idiots.. what do scientists and actual PhD doctors know more than GFY experts.

[jscott]

I know many GFY psychopaths will hate this, but I'll say it anyways:

eat less fast food
more exercise
get daily sunlight
drink lots of water
reduce need for medicines
i'll even throw in... rescue animals

[mopek1]

It's the vaccines.

Every poster above is correct about obesity and lifestyle in young people and the increase in disease like heart problems.

But, the rate skyrocketed in the last 2 years and it's only (mostly) in heavily MRNA vaccinated countries. The increase in young people dropping dead or going to ER with serious heart problems are athletes and people who are generally healthy.

See Alex Berensen and Dr. John Campbell for stats.

It sucks and I wish we were able to have discussions about this rather than censor opinions and force/guilt people to take it.

[TheLegacy]

Originally Posted by mopek1

It's the vaccines.

Every poster above is correct about obesity and lifestyle in young people and the increase in disease like heart problems.

But, the rate skyrocketed in the last 2 years and it's only (mostly) in heavily MRNA vaccinated countries. The increase in young people dropping dead or going to ER with serious heart problems are athletes and people who are generally healthy.

See Alex Berensen and Dr. John Campbell for stats.

It sucks and I wish we were able to have discussions about this rather than censor opinions and force/guilt people to take it.

No one is censoring you - all I am doing is posting facts from credible sources in the medical community. I"d love it if you could do the same - find a credible non-political source that attributes it and I'm more than happy to read and research it because right now - whether Goggle Canada is limiting it - I am unable to find proof of your claim that isn't a Russian blog or a couch potato twitter poster.

I'm one of the few out there who can and would admit I'm wrong if evidence shows it. We learn that way.

[mopek1]

Originally Posted by TheLegacy

No one is censoring you -

I don't mean you or anyone on gfy. I mean it's too bad we as a society/culture can't have civil discussion in general, and especially when it comes to covid. We censor and ban and shame instead of letting people speak and share ideas.

If so we may have had different outcomes.

We fight because of our tribal identity which psychologically is really, really deep and we don't even know that that's what we're doing. We have psychological trauma or moderate issues and then identify with one political side or the other as a means of stabilization and then fight each other to the death. Because we're fighting for our worth and for who we are and so our brain thinks it's THAT serious. so we have to win.

So either Trump can't do no wrong, OR, covid measures are all correct and we can't say otherwise.

...

It's fine that you disagree or have another opinion about young people and the cause of rising heart issues. I was just referring to how our society functions which is tragic.

[TheLegacy]

Originally Posted by mopek1

I don't mean you or anyone on gfy. I mean it's too bad we as a society/culture can't have civil discussion in general, and especially when it comes to covid. We censor and ban and shame instead of letting people speak and share ideas.

If so we may have had different outcomes.

We fight because of our tribal identity which psychologically is really, really deep and we don't even know that that's what we're doing. We have psychological trauma or moderate issues and then identify with one political side or the other as a means of stabilization and then fight each other to the death. Because we're fighting for our worth and for who we are and so our brain thinks it's THAT serious. so we have to win.

So either Trump can't do no wrong, OR, covid measures are all correct and we can't say otherwise.

...

It's fine that you disagree or have another opinion about young people and the cause of rising heart issues. I was just referring to how our society functions which is tragic.

Totally agree - and apologize for the misunderstanding. Sadly GFY is a melting pot and some simply just disagree hoping for chaos.

Hope all is well with you and thanks for responding

[jscott]

Originally Posted by mopek1

I don't mean you or anyone on gfy. I mean it's too bad we as a society/culture can't have civil discussion in general, and especially when it comes to covid. We censor and ban and shame instead of letting people speak and share ideas.
If so we may have had different outcomes.
We fight because of our tribal identity which psychologically is really, really deep and we don't even know that that's what we're doing. We have psychological trauma or moderate issues and then identify with one political side or the other as a means of stabilization and then fight each other to the death. Because we're fighting for our worth and for who we are and so our brain thinks it's THAT serious. so we have to win.
So either Trump can't do no wrong, OR, covid measures are all correct and we can't say otherwise.
...
It's fine that you disagree or have another opinion about young people and the cause of rising heart issues. I was just referring to how our society functions which is tragic.

Very true. Imagine if all health issues were dictated by leftists only, they would reject that anything has anything to do with vaccines, there would be absolutely no consideration at all. And with that, they are anti-science.

An open discussion is what many doctors & medical professionals wanted, but instead they were silenced, banned, fired & ostracized. (see Malone, McCullough, Campbell, Craig, Gold, Malholtra, & many others)

[MaDalton]

Originally Posted by jscott

Very true. Imagine if all health issues were dictated by leftists only, they would reject that anything has anything to do with vaccines, there would be absolutely no consideration at all. And with that, they are anti-science.

An open discussion is what many doctors & medical professionals wanted, but instead they were silenced, banned, fired & ostracized. (see Malone, McCullough, Campbell, Craig, Gold, Malholtra, & many others)

seek help

[jscott]

Originally Posted by MaDalton

seek help

nice argument, really adds to the discussion here

[mopek1]

Originally Posted by jscott

Very true. Imagine if all health issues were dictated by leftists only, they would reject that anything has anything to do with vaccines, there would be absolutely no consideration at all. And with that, they are anti-science.

An open discussion is what many doctors & medical professionals wanted, but instead they were silenced, banned, fired & ostracized. (see Malone, McCullough, Campbell, Craig, Gold, Malholtra, & many others)

I've been a center liberal most of my life and am afraid of where the left is taking us now. It's pretty extreme.

But the right also would wreak havoc if they had the same type of influence now. I think most people just want to live their lives, but we constantly get caught up in the windstorm that is thrust at us everyday from media and government and interest groups and it's just too much so we go with whatever we're told.

[J. Falcon]

Originally Posted by jscott

nice argument, really adds to the discussion here

What discussion?

You're ranting like a fucking hobo on the corner with a cardboard sign.

Basically what you do in every thread.

The pandemic really did a number on you. And I don't mean the virus.

[jscott]

Originally Posted by mopek1

I've been a center liberal most of my life and am afraid of where the left is taking us now. It's pretty extreme.
But the right also would wreak havoc if they had the same type of influence now. I think most people just want to live their lives, but we constantly get caught up in the windstorm that is thrust at us everyday from media and government and interest groups and it's just too much so we go with whatever we're told.

Agreed. Coming from a 99% liberal family (many of which hold/held public office) we all agree on the dangers of the Radical Left movement, which is trying to drive Democrats/liberals into a really nasty path of division, hate, & crazy. That is why I always speak of RL's as separate from real Dems/libs, they are nothing alike.

[J. Falcon]

The RADICAL LEFT is after you JScott!!!



BUWAHAHAHA

[elmy]

time is too fast, too fast and they can't stop

[CaptainHowdy]

Originally Posted by elmy

time is too fast, too fast and they can't stop

That's punk rock, son!

[Rochard]

Have I noticed young people having heart attacks? No. Not at all.

[newB]

I was just reading how colorectal cancers are also increasing among the young, mainly being attributed to poor diet - particularly high sugar and red meat consumption.

I'm waiting for the mouth-breathers who will therefore conclude that the mRNA vaccine gives you ass cancer.

[Retiree]

[eric_wahlberg]

Originally Posted by notinmybackyard

Over my very long lifetime I've seen society change from being 90% physically active people who ate healthy food to fat slobs who sit on their asses all day and whine about everything. Most people today live in a state of sudden death caused by the strain of pushing too hard while sitting on the toilet. To make things worse, today more pot is smoked in a week than the combined amount of the 60s and 70s.

Oh and I'm sure the jab didn't help the situation.

You are absolutely right. Work tensions, debt problem plus unhealthy eating patter are all responsible for it. Not only heart, but there is rise in diabetic patients too.

[mainstreammix]

Originally Posted by dUbster

Keep getting those vaccines, interesting how it all started within the last 2-3 years, hmm I wonder why

Keep getting that COVID. This all started when the idiots insisted on getting COVID. hmm I wonder why.

You lead brained morons are insufferable.

[Kaos_internet]

Originally Posted by Rochard

Have I noticed young people having heart attacks? No. Not at all.

Pizza is good for the heart.

[DVTimes]

[J. Falcon]

Originally Posted by DVTimes

Dr Suneel Dhand is a frontline doctor.

America's Frontline Doctors

America's Frontline Doctors (AFLDS) is an American right-wing political organization. Affiliated with Tea Party Patriots co-founder Jenny Beth Martin and publicly led by Simone Gold, the group is opposed to measures intended to control the COVID-19 pandemic, such as business closures, stay-at-home orders, and vaccination. The group promotes falsehoods about the COVID-19 pandemic and COVID-19 vaccines.

Great medical source, dude.

[aibos]

Event 201. You didn't hear it from me.

[aibos]

Also, one must not forget Amalgam Virgo.

[CaptainHowdy]

This thread is slightly moving towards the loonitics section of the board . . .