To those who don't think Canada has a military - underwater submersible may have been found

[TheLegacy]

https://apnews.com/article/missing-t...3f5349ebcc8eec

Underwater noises detected by a surveillance aircraft provided a measure of hope Wednesday as search vessels working against long odds scoured the North Atlantic for a submersible that vanished while bringing five people down to the wreck of the Titanic.

But even those who expressed some optimism warned that many obstacles remain: from pinpointing the vessel’s location, to reaching it with rescue equipment, to bringing it to the surface — assuming it’s still intact — before the passengers’ oxygen supply runs out.

The area of the North Atlantic where the Titan submersible went missing on Sunday is prone to fog and stormy conditions, making it an extremely challenging environment to conduct a search-and-rescue mission, said Donald Murphy, an oceanographer who served as chief scientist of the Coast Guard’s International Ice Patrol.

After a Canadian military surveillance aircraft detected underwater noises in the search area, a robotic vessel was sent to scour the region but had so far “yielded negative results,” the Coast Guard wrote on Twitter.

The Coast Guard did not elaborate on what rescuers believed the noises could be. The vessel is estimated to have as little as a day’s worth of oxygen left if it is still functioning.

Three search vessels arrived on-scene Wednesday morning, including one that has side-scanning sonar capabilities. Authorities pushed to get salvage equipment to the scene in case the submersible is found.

The Coast Guard statement about detecting sounds underwater came after Rolling Stone reported that search teams heard “banging sounds in the area every 30 minutes.”

[2MuchMark]

I really hope those poor people get found.

I've been watching it on TV.... I didn't know that the sub was so small. Apperently it's smaller than a minivan, and has 5 people in it, all sitting on the floor because there are no chairs.

The sub is controlled by a ... omg... bluetooth-connected Playstation Controller.... UGH...while I appreciate the simplicity and can understand the reasons behind it... bluetooth is so fucking unreliable and janky.... what if they can't control the sub because of a bluetooth pairing problem..?

[Rochard]

I hope they are rescued but time is running out quickly...

[plsureking]

i give no fucks about people who intentionally put themselves in harms way for fun or entertainment. they knew the risks and made the choice (and spent a fuckload of money). stop crying for them. its just an inverted Everest.



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[Lief Thorson]

Originally Posted by 2MuchMark

I really hope those poor people get found.

Those poor millionaires that signed a waiver stating the know they could die. It must suck for them right now but they took a risk for personal pleasure. And now there are others taking risks to find them because it is their job.

Would all these military and other assets be expended if it was you or someone else from GFY lost in ocean? I do not think so.

[King Mark]

Who thought Canada didn't have a military?

When I was stationed in Fort Drum, we use to drive up to Kingston Ontario to bang Canadian chicks on weekends. Their soldiers use to get real jealous and territorial. Got in a few "friendly" scuffles with them. We'd call them boogers, because their fatigues were a weird shade of booger green.

[plsureking]

Originally Posted by King Mark

Who thought Canada didn't have a military?

When I was stationed in Fort Drum, we use to drive up to Kingston Ontario to bang Canadian chicks on weekends. Their soldiers use to get real jealous and territorial. Got in a few "friendly" scuffles with them. We'd call them boogers, because their fatigues were a weird shade of booger green.

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[Tube Face]

Originally Posted by King Mark

Who thought Canada didn't have a military?

When I was stationed in Fort Drum, we use to drive up to Kingston Ontario to bang Canadian chicks on weekends. Their soldiers use to get real jealous and territorial. Got in a few "friendly" scuffles with them. We'd call them boogers, because their fatigues were a weird shade of booger green.

When were you at Ft Drum? I was there 91-95

[King Mark]

Originally Posted by Tube Face

When were you at Ft Drum? I was there 91-95

02 to 06

Got there during a weird period. Had to shine my boots and sew patches on my BDU's when I got there. Suede boots and velcro patches on my ACU's when I left.

[dUbster]

Those people have long died

RIP

[Tube Face]

Originally Posted by King Mark

02 to 06

Got there during a weird period. Had to shine my boots and sew patches on my BDU's when I got there. Suede boots and velcro patches on my ACU's when I left.

Were all the girls in Watertown still as big as cows?

[King Mark]

Originally Posted by Tube Face

Were all the girls in Watertown still as big as cows?

The water buffalos are why we had to outsource to Canada

[Tube Face]

Originally Posted by King Mark

The water buffalos are why we had to outsource to Canada

We called the Buffarillas. A crossbreed between a buffalo and a gorilla.

I spent many weekends in Kingston. Hooked up with a Canadian girl and she gave me keys to her apartment, lasted a couple years.

[Look Chang]

Originally Posted by Lief Thorson

Those poor millionaires that signed a waiver stating the know they could die. It must suck for them right now but they took a risk for personal pleasure. And now there are others taking risks to find them because it is their job.

Would all these military and other assets be expended if it was you or someone else from GFY lost in ocean? I do not think so.

Yes ten boats and almost as many planes are deployed to find them while very little is done to rescue the hundreds of migrants who regularly drown in the Mediterranean sea.

[King Mark]

Shout out to Kingston. Beautiful friendly women who loved American penis.

Shout out to the boogers too. Even though they didn't like us up there banging their women, they kept the scuffles fair and honorable. We were way out of bounds and could have easily gotten done real dirty, but they kept it clean. I appreciate that

[Tube Face]

Originally Posted by King Mark

Shout out to Kingston. Beautiful friendly women who loved American penis.

Shout out to the boogers too. Even though they didn't like us up there banging their women, they kept the scuffles fair and honorable

A good weekend went like this:

Friday after work, head to Kingston. Get there at 7pm. Me and my girl have dinner then she liked to go to a couple of clubs. AJ's Hangar and Stages. Right across the street from each other.

Saturday, wake up and drive to Gananoque and do a couple of parachute jumps. Drive back to Kingston, meet up with the girl and repeat the previous night.

Sunday sleep late. Hang out with the girl and do stuff in Kingston. Go to a movie or something sunday night.

Monday wake up at 4am and drive back to Ft Drum and be ready for PT at 7am.

[King Mark]

I had some good times there, but Fort Drum is the only place I ever caught a sunburn in below zero temperatures. PT on ice was not fun at all. Got so cold up there it snowed crystals. And the North Country was a culture shock for a Bronx boy born and raised only 8 hours away. Whole different world. Wild times. It gets so fucking cold there that Alaskan soldiers would do cold weather training there and say it was colder there than they ever felt in Alaska... then we'd get dumped in scorching hot ass Kuwait/Iraq every other year from that arctic nightmare. Would NEVER recommend

[brassmonkey]

stop crying op

[ruff]

Personally, I think the vessel imploded when it lost contact the day it descended. A composite hull at those depths is an accident waiting to happen.

Even if it did not destroy itself, 5 people sitting on the bottom at that depth with temperatures right at freezing are not going to survive much past 24 hours.

But, hey, what do I know? You couldn't get me into one of those if you held a shotgun to my head.

[NatalieK]

I hear the noise was probably nothing to do with the submersible, and sadly, i read the submersible was not safe and should not have been down there

[NatalieK]

Originally Posted by ruff

Personally, I think the vessel imploded when it lost contact the day it descended. A composite hull at those depths is an accident waiting to happen.

Even if it did not destroy itself, 5 people sitting on the bottom at that depth with temperatures right at freezing are not going to survive much past 24 hours.

But, hey, what do I know? You couldn't get me into one of those if you held a shotgun to my head.

exactly this...

sad news, but reality is, they may never be found, miles and miles of rocky ground so far below the surface of the Earth. Worst than a needle in a haystack

[Major (Tom)]

Originally Posted by 2MuchMark

I really hope those poor people get found.

I've been watching it on TV.... I didn't know that the sub was so small. Apperently it's smaller than a minivan, and has 5 people in it, all sitting on the floor because there are no chairs.

The sub is controlled by a ... omg... bluetooth-connected Playstation Controller.... UGH...while I appreciate the simplicity and can understand the reasons behind it... bluetooth is so fucking unreliable and janky.... what if they can't control the sub because of a bluetooth pairing problem..?

Did they turn it off and then on again?

[TheLegacy]

Originally Posted by King Mark

Who thought Canada didn't have a military?

When I was stationed in Fort Drum, we use to drive up to Kingston Ontario to bang Canadian chicks on weekends. Their soldiers use to get real jealous and territorial. Got in a few "friendly" scuffles with them. We'd call them boogers, because their fatigues were a weird shade of booger green.

It was on another section of GFY we visit from time to time LOL... that being said often American and Canadian forces work together in all areas. Sadly this one doesn't look as though it's going to end well - it's already Thursday morning and by all accounts the air has run out and I think the pings have stopped.

I find it odd that no one at the time could get down there - I mean are all the deep sea ships in the Pacific?

As of 2023, the RCN (Royal Canadian Navy) operates 12 frigates, four attack submarines, 12 coastal defense vessels, eight patrol-class training vessels, two offshore patrol vessels, and several auxiliary vessels.

So Canada has 4 attack submarines - I thought stationed in Halifax which is very close to all this. Couldn't we just use one to find them?

[MaDalton]

I'm pretty sure they died the moment they lost contact - thing probably imploded due to faulty windows

[Roald]

Originally Posted by TheLegacy

So Canada has 4 attack submarines - I thought stationed in Halifax which is very close to all this. Couldn't we just use one to find them?

You're kidding right?

Why not use all 4!!!

[TheLegacy]

Originally Posted by Roald

You're kidding right?

Why not use all 4!!!

Ideally yes - but knowing our Prime Minister it would be easier to just say, "can't you just lend us one instead of the whole friggin underwater armada?" I mean really - who's going to attack Canada underwater? Seals? Whales? Tuna? or is he concerned about Russian Lobsters.

Agreed - but I don't know what it costs to send a sub - maybe that was it

[MaDalton]

https://twitter.com/USCGNortheast/st...07901542211584

"A debris field was discovered within the search area by an ROV near the Titanic. Experts within the unified command are evaluating the information."

[Roald]

Originally Posted by TheLegacy

Ideally yes - but knowing our Prime Minister it would be easier to just say, "can't you just lend us one instead of the whole friggin underwater armada?" I mean really - who's going to attack Canada underwater? Seals? Whales? Tuna? or is he concerned about Russian Lobsters.

Agreed - but I don't know what it costs to send a sub - maybe that was it

I was not serious, sorry for not being obvious. Sending only 1 would be ridiculous (imho) already.

May they RIP.

[vending_machine]

Unofficial word is that there is Titan parts in the debris..

[sarettah]

Originally Posted by TheLegacy

Agreed - but I don't know what it costs to send a sub - maybe that was it

typically an ssn (attack sub) runs at most around 300 meters deep, so that is about 975 feet.

the titanic is at around 3800 meters deep so about 12500.

there are very few submersibles capable of rescue that can get to that depth, so it is really useless to send a regular submarine down.

A DSRV (Deep Sea Rescue Vehicle) can only go to about 1500 meters and even if it could get down that deep it could not have helped these guys even if they had not imploded because reportedly the hatch is locked from the outside, it cannot be opened from the inside. I kept picturing these guys making it to the surface and then not being found so dying of suffocation on the surface because they could not open the hatch, a horrible picture.

I know this sounds morbid but as far as them dying, the implosion is pretty much the best possible way. They would not have had time to know what was happening and they would have died pretty much instantly (according to past submarine implosion reports)

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[TheLegacy]

Originally Posted by sarettah

typically an ssn (attack sub) runs at most around 300 meters deep, so that is about 975 feet.

the titanic is at around 3800 meters deep so about 12500.

there are very few submersibles capable of rescue that can get to that depth, so it is really useless to send a regular submarine down.

A DSRV (Deep Sea Rescue Vehicle) can only go to about 1500 meters and even if it could get down that deep it could not have helped these guys even if they had not imploded because reportedly the hatch is locked from the outside, it cannot be opened from the inside. I kept picturing these guys making it to the surface and then not being found so dying of suffocation on the surface because they could not open the hatch, a horrible picture.

I know this sounds morbid but as far as them dying, the implosion is pretty much the best possible way. They would not have had time to know what was happening and they would have died pretty much instantly (according to past submarine implosion reports)

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There's a fact I didn't know - thank you

[sarettah]

Originally Posted by TheLegacy

There's a fact I didn't know - thank you

np. i worked with sub info in the Navy for 8 years. I did not serve on a sub (Vendzilla did that) i just worked with them intelligence wise.

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[just a punk]

Originally Posted by MaDalton

I'm pretty sure they died the moment they lost contact - thing probably imploded due to faulty windows

An old lady, a junkie, and a sailor are riding on a bus. The old lady asks the junkie to open the window, he turns to the sailor and says:
"Hey, soldier, open the window, it's hot!"
The sailor replies:
"Who did you call a soldier? I'm a sailor."
The junkie turns to the old lady:
"Damn, granny, have you lost fuckin' your mind? We're in a submarine!"

P.S. As about this situation. Yes, I believe they were dead when the signal was lost.

[MaDalton]

Originally Posted by MaDalton

I'm pretty sure they died the moment they lost contact - thing probably imploded due to faulty windows

Originally Posted by MaDalton

https://twitter.com/USCGNortheast/st...07901542211584

"A debris field was discovered within the search area by an ROV near the Titanic. Experts within the unified command are evaluating the information."

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...an-submersible

Cameron said he knew the submersible was lost from the start of the four-day search, after his sources reported similar information, the film director said on Thursday.

“We got confirmation within an hour that there had been a loud bang at the same time that the sub comms were lost. A loud bang on the hydrophone. Loss of transponder. Loss of comms. I knew what happened. The sub imploded,” Cameron told the Reuters news agency.

[plsureking]

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[CAHEK]

[NatalieK]

Originally Posted by sarettah

typically an ssn (attack sub) runs at most around 300 meters deep, so that is about 975 feet.

the titanic is at around 3800 meters deep so about 12500.

there are very few submersibles capable of rescue that can get to that depth, so it is really useless to send a regular submarine down.

A DSRV (Deep Sea Rescue Vehicle) can only go to about 1500 meters and even if it could get down that deep it could not have helped these guys even if they had not imploded because reportedly the hatch is locked from the outside, it cannot be opened from the inside. I kept picturing these guys making it to the surface and then not being found so dying of suffocation on the surface because they could not open the hatch, a horrible picture.

I know this sounds morbid but as far as them dying, the implosion is pretty much the best possible way. They would not have had time to know what was happening and they would have died pretty much instantly (according to past submarine implosion reports)

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these are test depths, the DSRV has a suggested maximum depth of 3000mt & other information includes, "A small sub, the bathyscaphe Trieste, made it to 10,916 meters (35,813 feet) below sea level in the deepest point in the ocean, the Challenger Deep in the Marianas Trench, a few hundred miles east of the Philippines. This part of the ocean is 11,034 m (36,200 ft.) deep, so it seems that a sub can make it as deep as it’s theoretically possible to go."

I read this here... https://navalpost.com/how-deep-can-a-submarine-dive/

it´s sad what has happened, but keeping it real, it´s going to be possible to continue going down to these depths, as there´s been 33 dives to the Titanic, how many times have we been on the moon and still they´re going to Mars

[plsureking]

Originally Posted by NatalieK

it´s sad what has happened, but keeping it real, it´s going to be possible to continue going down to these depths, as there´s been 33 dives to the Titanic, how many times have we been on the moon and still they´re going to Mars

yea the Cameron video was eye opening. he's been diving down there since he made that documentary (20 years ago!) and he said there are several "outfits" operating out there.

this will save you a couple hundred k



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[CaptainHowdy]

Originally Posted by CAHEK

Tourists are some sort of civil soldiers of their country, so the efforts to save them seem justifiable . . .

[CAHEK]

CharlieHebdo on Zelensky

"I‘m a survivor from the Titan and I want to transfer all the money to Ukraine!"

LoL