Space X Makes History

[2MuchMark]

[Fat Panda]

wowsers, elon from da interwebs -> stratosphere

[Paul&John]

very nice!

[ArtificialTraffic]

Space X was Tesla bailout. Even Musk did admit that in interview.

Musk is bullshit seller. But he have retarded audience, uneducated and with total lack of common sense.

No, losing 30% of load to save one stage isn't going to improve anything (1 div 0,7 = 1.42, to move same load into orbit, you need 42% more in fuel consumed and other stages destroyed to save 1 one stage)

No, electric car with 8000 cell battery in country with 70% of electricity produced from fossil fuels isn't going to save environment. 40% of electricity in US is produced from coal power plants, which produce insane amount of pollution and waste (coal ash) and more radioactivity than Nuclear power plants .... with difference, nuclear waste is properly stored.

No, powerwalls with total 1,000,000,000 battery cells at 10x cost of one single pump-action power plant aren't going to save environment.

[oppoten]

Originally Posted by ArtificialTraffic

Space X was Tesla bailout. Even Musk did admit that in interview.

Musk is bullshit seller. But he have retarded audience, uneducated and with total lack of common sense.

No, losing 30% of load to save one stage isn't going to improve anything (1 div 0,7 = 1.42, to move same load into orbit, you need 42% more in fuel consumed and other stages destroyed to save 1 one stage)

No, electric car with 8000 cell battery in country with 70% of electricity produced from fossil fuels isn't going to save environment. 40% of electricity in US is produced from coal power plants, which produce insane amount of pollution and waste (coal ash) and more radioactivity than Nuclear power plants .... with difference, nuclear waste is properly stored.

No, powerwalls with total 1,000,000,000 battery cells at 10x cost of one single pump-action power plant aren't going to save environment.

I don't think truth is the point of this thread

[MaDalton]

didn't someone else do this earlier this year already?

[ITraffic]

humanity should learn to take care of and conserve its home planet first before going to into space and greedily consuming and destroying the rest of the universe it as well.

[ITraffic]

Originally Posted by MaDalton

didn't someone else do this earlier this year already?

As big as this is for SpaceX, it's not the first time a vertical take-off rocket has landed upright after launching into space. In November, Jeff Bezosâ?? private spaceflight company Blue Origin announced that it had landed its rocket New Shepard post-launch.

[mineistaken]

Rocket should have had electric engine, look at how much pollution it leaves, Mr. Prince!

[MaDalton]

Originally Posted by ITraffic

As big as this is for SpaceX, it's not the first time a vertical take-off rocket has landed upright after launching into space. In November, Jeff Bezosâ?? private spaceflight company Blue Origin announced that it had landed its rocket New Shepard post-launch.

yeah, thought so.

Elon Musk reminds me of Apple - no matter if someone else did it before, you just have to pretend you're first and be the most vocal about it and everyone will believe it

[mineistaken]

Originally Posted by MaDalton

Elon Musk reminds me of Apple - no matter if someone else did it before, you just have to pretend you're first and be the most vocal about it and everyone will believe it

One of the main reasons I am anti apple fanboy

[PornSEO]

Wow! Excellent.

[Sarn]

beautiful video!

[Denny]

Great

[just a punk]

Looks cool, but is it really cost-effective? I mean all those difficulties with returning of the 1st stage.

[LetterTwenty7]

I was kinda happy when I saw the news this morning.

[_Richard_]

big congrats to them

[crockett]

Originally Posted by MaDalton

yeah, thought so.

Elon Musk reminds me of Apple - no matter if someone else did it before, you just have to pretend you're first and be the most vocal about it and everyone will believe it

Oh give me a break dude.. There are 3 companies all in a race to do the same things.. It was Spaceship one which was the first private company to put men in space. They were doing great things then one of their space crafts broke up on re entry killing one pilot but amazingly the second one survived the crash.. That was their set back and they have yet to regain their momentum.


Next it was SpaceX.. They have been doing great things and were the first company to attempt a vertical take off and landing. On their first test the rocket crashed on landing. That was their set back but they have come back and become successful on their second try..

Blue Orgin managed to have a successful vertical take off and landing inbetween the first crash of SpaceX and their now successful attempt.

While yes Blue Orgin did manage to sneak in there and do it first successfully.. They have done no where near as much as SpaceX has..


I mean for fucks sake, do you Debbie downers have any idea how many rockets NASA lost just trying to get men into space? What each of these 3 companies have done is pretty fucking astounding by any rights..

[mineistaken]

Originally Posted by crockett

I mean for fucks sake, do you Debbie downers have any idea how many rockets NASA lost just trying to get men into space? What each of these 3 companies have done is pretty fucking astounding by any rights..

He was not denying that it was astounding. He was merely exposing who was the first.

[BIGTYMER]

And this was done without our tax dollars! Totally privately funded.

If you don't count the $400-$500 million NASA gave them.

[MaDalton]

Originally Posted by crockett

Oh give me a break dude.. There are 3 companies all in a race to do the same things.. It was Spaceship one which was the first private company to put men in space. They were doing great things then one of their space crafts broke up on re entry killing one pilot but amazingly the second one survived the crash.. That was their set back and they have yet to regain their momentum.


Next it was SpaceX.. They have been doing great things and were the first company to attempt a vertical take off and landing. On their first test the rocket crashed on landing. That was their set back but they have come back and become successful on their second try..

Blue Orgin managed to have a successful vertical take off and landing inbetween the first crash of SpaceX and their now successful attempt.

While yes Blue Orgin did manage to sneak in there and do it first successfully.. They have done no where near as much as SpaceX has..


I mean for fucks sake, do you Debbie downers have any idea how many rockets NASA lost just trying to get men into space? What each of these 3 companies have done is pretty fucking astounding by any rights..

Originally Posted by mineistaken

He was not denying that it was astounding. He was merely exposing who was the first.

i rest in my case

[crockett]

Originally Posted by ArtificialTraffic

Space X was Tesla bailout. Even Musk did admit that in interview.

Musk is bullshit seller. But he have retarded audience, uneducated and with total lack of common sense.

No, losing 30% of load to save one stage isn't going to improve anything (1 div 0,7 = 1.42, to move same load into orbit, you need 42% more in fuel consumed and other stages destroyed to save 1 one stage)

No, electric car with 8000 cell battery in country with 70% of electricity produced from fossil fuels isn't going to save environment. 40% of electricity in US is produced from coal power plants, which produce insane amount of pollution and waste (coal ash) and more radioactivity than Nuclear power plants .... with difference, nuclear waste is properly stored.

No, powerwalls with total 1,000,000,000 battery cells at 10x cost of one single pump-action power plant aren't going to save environment.

I realize you are just a hater, so this will likely fall on death ears.. However we are pushing past fossil fuels.. They will not be the main power sources in 5O years. Perhaps you should go take a drive around the country.. We are building wind farms at an outstanding g rate as well as solar farms.

Right now renewable energy is around 13% of the total energy produced in this country. The important factor is that 75% of new energy production is coming from renewable energy sources (solar/wind). I.e. Fossil fuels are the past and we are in a cross over transition.

By 2050 somewhere around 75% of electric generated in the US will be from renewable/green energy sources.. That is the future and yes, by that time electric cars will be the majority not the minority and yes they will be saving our environment..

Progress doesn't happen at the flip of the switch, it takes time. Gas powered cars did not instantly become the main transportation system the moment Henry Ford built his production line..

[crockett]

Originally Posted by mineistaken

He was not denying that it was astounding. He was merely exposing who was the first.

I wasn't denying that they didn't do it first, but I was pointing out that yes SpaceX was the first to attempt a vertical take off and landing. They just were not successful in their first attempt.

Anyway.. Where did SpaceX claim they were the first? Are they not aloud to be happy at their success? You guys are always so boo hoo every time Musk does something.. Why so much hate? At least he's doing something productive with his fortune and not just being a rich faggot.

[crockett]

Originally Posted by MaDalton

i rest in my case

Look you even have a Debbie Downer as your avatar..

[MaDalton]

Originally Posted by crockett

Look you even have a Debbie Downer as your avatar..

and proud of it - now available on iTunes, Spotify and soon in your local record store

https://www.facebook.com/bloodhoundgang/

[mineistaken]

Originally Posted by crockett

You guys are always so boo hoo every time Musk does something..

Say what?
Musk is cool and respectable in my books.

[crockett]

Originally Posted by mineistaken

Say what?
Musk is cool and respectable in my books.

It just seems a trend here on GFY that many are very Debbie downers everytime he makes news..

The guy is likely one in a billion.. While other rich faggots are busy farming money in hedge funds and bankrupting our country, he is putting his money on the table to advance our future in some pretty interesting ways., I just don't see why there is so much hate for him specifically from many of the consertive crowd. It's not just here either, many of the consertive talking heads hate him.. I assume it's because he represents anti oil with his electric cars..

The oil companies remind me of the record companies when napster came along. They spent all their time and money fighting the future instead of diving in to control it..

If the big oil companies were smart.. They would be putting charging stations at their gas stations and taking control of the future instead of trying to fight it..

[Paul&John]

Originally Posted by MaDalton

yeah, thought so.

Elon Musk reminds me of Apple - no matter if someone else did it before, you just have to pretend you're first and be the most vocal about it and everyone will believe it

Blue Origin's is only meant for space tourism, where the Falcon 9 (SpaceX) gets payload to outer space (satellites, astronauts/stuff to ISS), huge difference. The first one is smaller and it just goes basically up then down (vertically), where the SpaceX thingy goes like the other spacecrafts in a ballistic way (or how do they call it)..



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8c7RUjNFDo

[Paul&John]

Btw well worth the read: How (and Why) SpaceX Will Colonize Mars - Wait But Why
It totally changed my view on spacetravel.. however its a very long read.. The point is, that re-usability is a huge cost saver in getting stuff to outer space.

[Rochard]

This is amazing. Space travel has always been interesting to me, but with the way technology is progressing and with private companies getting into it.... We'll see huge changes in the next twenty - forty years.

Space travel will become common some day. Maybe not in our life time, but some day.

[bronco67]

Originally Posted by ArtificialTraffic

Space X was Tesla bailout. Even Musk did admit that in interview.

Musk is bullshit seller. But he have retarded audience, uneducated and with total lack of common sense.

No, losing 30% of load to save one stage isn't going to improve anything (1 div 0,7 = 1.42, to move same load into orbit, you need 42% more in fuel consumed and other stages destroyed to save 1 one stage)

No, electric car with 8000 cell battery in country with 70% of electricity produced from fossil fuels isn't going to save environment. 40% of electricity in US is produced from coal power plants, which produce insane amount of pollution and waste (coal ash) and more radioactivity than Nuclear power plants .... with difference, nuclear waste is properly stored.

No, powerwalls with total 1,000,000,000 battery cells at 10x cost of one single pump-action power plant aren't going to save environment.

Sounds like you know everything...so maybe you should let Musk know he's wasting his time.

[JFK]

Originally Posted by crockett

Look you even have a Debbie Downer as your avatar..

Wondered what her name was, HOT

[2MuchMark]

Originally Posted by Rochard

This is amazing. Space travel has always been interesting to me, but with the way technology is progressing and with private companies getting into it.... We'll see huge changes in the next twenty - forty years.

Space travel will become common some day. Maybe not in our life time, but some day.

When Nasa lost a big chunk of its funding and had to retire the Space Shuttle I thought that this was it for cool Space Travel for a long time. I'm glad to see I was wrong. Nasa's robots on Mars and now, reusable boosters from SpaceX. Awesome shit.

To all the haters: You sound ridiculous.

[Rochard]

The United States need to fully fund NASA. The technologies that came out of NASA are amazing. Things we never think of - battery powered tools, freeze drying food, solar, even LEDs.

[Pac Man!]

This is great

[Joshua G]

i root for elon musk as the edison of our time. I re-assert however that his most successful project, by far, in terms of profits, will be the hyperloop he gave away. i guess he prefers sexy risky toys to boring sure things. His hyperloop is gonna dwarf everything else he does economically. guaranteed.

[2MuchMark]

Originally Posted by Joshua G

i root for elon musk as the edison of our time. I re-assert however that his most successful project, by far, in terms of profits, will be the hyperloop he gave away. i guess he prefers sexy risky toys to boring sure things. His hyperloop is gonna dwarf everything else he does economically. guaranteed.

He also more or less gave away Tesla. He announced a few months ago that everything Tesla is now Open Source.

[dyna mo]

100% fake. Musk simply reversed the launch video.

[Joshua G]

Originally Posted by **********

He also more or less gave away Tesla. He announced a few months ago that everything Tesla is now Open Source.

would be nice to be so wealthy to give away entire industries.

[ArtificialTraffic]

Originally Posted by crockett

I realize you are just a hater

Why? Because I have knowledge & analytic thinking?

Originally Posted by crockett

By 2050 somewhere around 75% of electric generated in the US will be from renewable/green energy sources

No, it won't be. Electronics have ~5% tolerance on voltage.
Only renewable source with stable and predictable output is hydroelectric.

Solar & wind sources are just waste of tax payers money (through subsidies).
Their output is highly unstable

Only way to stabilize huge amount of unstable power sources is to have huge amount of stable sources with controllable output.
That's why there's still many coal power plants running.
Nuclear power plants can't change output that fast and total shutdown/start is complicated.
Ever heard about scram, iodine pit, etc ...?

[crockett]

Originally Posted by ArtificialTraffic

Why? Because I have knowledge & analytic thinking?



No, it won't be. Electronics have ~5% tolerance on voltage.
Only renewable source with stable and predictable output is hydroelectric.

Solar & wind sources are just waste of tax payers money (through subsidies).
Their output is highly unstable

Only way to stabilize huge amount of unstable power sources is to have huge amount of stable sources with controllable output.
That's why there's still many coal power plants running.
Nuclear power plants can't change output that fast and total shutdown/start is complicated.
Ever heard about scram, iodine pit, etc ...?

You are dumb..

[Ajokki]

Amazing!

[PuppetMaster]

Sig spot!

[Busty2]

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[2MuchMark]

Originally Posted by ArtificialTraffic

Why? Because I have knowledge & analytic thinking?



No, it won't be. Electronics have ~5% tolerance on voltage.
Only renewable source with stable and predictable output is hydroelectric.

Solar & wind sources are just waste of tax payers money (through subsidies).
Their output is highly unstable

Only way to stabilize huge amount of unstable power sources is to have huge amount of stable sources with controllable output.
That's why there's still many coal power plants running.
Nuclear power plants can't change output that fast and total shutdown/start is complicated.
Ever heard about scram, iodine pit, etc ...?

That’s not how it works

[Lief Thorson]

Originally Posted by 2MuchMark

That’s not how it works

You pick up a 7 year argument with THAT response?

wtf man

[Look Chang]

Originally Posted by Busty2

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What do you mean by that with this realistic photo montage ?

[jscott]

Originally Posted by crockett

I mean for fucks sake, do you Debbie downers have any idea how many rockets NASA lost just trying to get men into space? What each of these 3 companies have done is pretty fucking astounding by any rights..

Originally Posted by mineistaken

He was not denying that it was astounding. He was merely exposing who was the first.

He's correct about the Debbie Downer though. So easy to criticize others who do amazing things.

[AzteK]

Originally Posted by oppoten

I don't think truth is the point of this thread

In 2019, about 23 percent of all electricity in the United States was generated by coal-fired power plants, according to the U.S. Energy Information Administration that's not even close to the 40% -- anyways have a good weekend