Redditor boycott aka "blackout" a waste of time?

[$5 submissions]

"Protesting" for APIs who can no longer suck data for free?

Seriously?

[MelkieWey]

r/BambiSleep will go dark on june 12th in protest of reddit's api changes that will kill 3rd party apps. details in comments. by prettyspirals666 at r/BambiSleep/

We will see, what most likely is happening is teh delay between MODs & developers to accept the price ranges! <
most likely maketter s they are doing some agressive A/B Price testing in real time!

Rattling up everyone for their new plan till the 2030 run is over!

[blackmonsters]

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[trevesty]

Reddit wants to do an IPO and this is creating a ton of bad press for Reddit.

Who knows if it'll work, but the IPO hopes certainly seem to be more like a distant dream now.

[sandman!]

Reddit will get rid of the mods that are doing the boycott so does not matter in the end

[crockett]

Originally Posted by $5 submissions

"Protesting" for APIs who can no longer suck data for free?

Seriously?

Are you kidding? Reddit gets its content for free and then sells advertising on it and the CEO is crying that someone else might be making a bit of money also.. There is way more to this protest than just the API changes...

The dude is an idiot, even worse he publicly stated that he wanted to model Reddit after the disaster Elon Musk made out of Twitter. The idiot has publicly stated he thinks Elon Musk handled Twitter very well and wants to model Reddit's changes after that.

Elon Musk stopped paying rent and is now getting evicted from multiple properties Twitter had offices. He hired non-licensed electricians to change shit in those buildings so workers could live in them so they could work 18hr days.. He's now getting sued over that, because it violated building codes.. He's taken Twitter's value from 44 billion down to around 14 billion and still falling. The entire Twitter site is nothing but a cesspool of hate and spam bots now..

The Reddit CEO sees all this and says.. "Yeah I want some of that!"

^^
That's what the protest is now about.. The API stuff just got the ball rolling..

[crockett]

Originally Posted by sandman!

Reddit will get rid of the mods that are doing the boycott so does not matter in the end

I'm mod of a 2 million user sub I built from 2,5k users. He can do that and the site will be useless in a year.. It's more than just mods doing these protests. Most subs in the protest polled the user base before joining. The CEO is doing everything to publicly try to make this about mods with too much power.. No, it's the users who wanted the protests. The mods just had the ability to do it.

The IPO is going to fail because of his nonsense and the guy keeps putting his foot in his mouth.. My bet is the board removes him as CEO before mods get removed. He's already destroyed the IPO that was supposed to happen in like 6-8 months.

[trevesty]

Originally Posted by crockett

Are you kidding? Reddit gets its content for free and then sells advertising on it and the CEO is crying that someone else might be making a bit of money also.. There is way more to this protest than just the API changes...

The dude is an idiot, even worse he publicly stated that he wanted to model Reddit after the disaster Elon Musk made out of Twitter. The idiot has publicly stated he thinks Elon Musk handled Twitter very well and wants to model Reddit's changes after that.

Elon Musk stopped paying rent and is now getting evicted from multiple properties Twitter had offices. He hired non-licensed electricians to change shit in those buildings so workers could live in them so they could work 18hr days.. He's now getting sued over that, because it violated building codes.. He's taken Twitter's value from 44 billion down to around 14 billion and still falling. The entire Twitter site is nothing but a cesspool of hate and spam bots now..

The Reddit CEO sees all this and says.. "Yeah I want some of that!"

^^
That's what the protest is now about.. The API stuff just got the ball rolling..

Originally Posted by crockett

I'm mod of a 2 million user sub I built from 2,5k users. He can do that and the site will be useless in a year.. It's more than just mods doing these protests. Most subs in the protest polled the user base before joining. The CEO is doing everything to publicly try to make this about mods with too much power.. No, it's the users who wanted the protests. The mods just had the ability to do it.

The IPO is going to fail because of his nonsense and the guy keeps putting his foot in his mouth.. My bet is the board removes him as CEO before mods get removed. He's already destroyed the IPO that was supposed to happen in like 6-8 months.

Pretty much all that.

Even very strict, academic-centric subs joined the protest after users blew up the mods via mod messaging.

Can't really build a site on volunteer / free labor, then try to mock all of those people in the press. Without 3rd party tools like Auto Moderator, Reddit would've been sued into non-existence years ago.

[notinmybackyard]

So the home of the entitled, freeloading, communist young males are on strike because they not getting their way. Reddit is only worth pursuing when you're webmaster who lives in a 3rd world nation where a house costs 20 bucks and your Internet connection is $0.25 a month

[King Mark]

I like it. New subs I never knew existed now pop up when I scroll.

[sandman!]

what % of users are going to leave because no more free api ride ?

1% 2% 5% ?

we will see how this plays out but i doubt it will be a big number

Originally Posted by crockett

I'm mod of a 2 million user sub I built from 2,5k users. He can do that and the site will be useless in a year.. It's more than just mods doing these protests. Most subs in the protest polled the user base before joining. The CEO is doing everything to publicly try to make this about mods with too much power.. No, it's the users who wanted the protests. The mods just had the ability to do it.

The IPO is going to fail because of his nonsense and the guy keeps putting his foot in his mouth.. My bet is the board removes him as CEO before mods get removed. He's already destroyed the IPO that was supposed to happen in like 6-8 months.

[notinmybackyard]

Originally Posted by crockett

Are you kidding? Reddit gets its content for free.

Well who's dumb ass fault is that? Anyone who considers their content and time to be worthless have nothing to bitch about when they get fucked over.

[adtrafic]

Most of the content on reddit these days is from tiktok or instagram.

[King Mark]

r/interestingasfuck is interesting as fuck today 🍿😎

[Squrr]

I mentioned this on other forums, but my NSFW subreddits I left open had increased traffic over the blackout. They must have been bored

[Retiree]

Originally Posted by crockett

The dude is an idiot, even worse he publicly stated that he wanted to model Reddit after the disaster Elon Musk made out of Twitter.

WTF are you talking about? Twitter is currently the only social media that is not propaganda trash and that is worth spending time on.

[trevesty]

Originally Posted by notinmybackyard

Well who's dumb ass fault is that? Anyone who considers their content and time to be worthless have nothing to bitch about when they get fucked over.

You're right. Reddit's CEO shouldn't be bitching.

[trevesty]

Originally Posted by notinmybackyard

So the home of the entitled, freeloading, communist young males are on strike because they not getting their way. Reddit is only worth pursuing when you're webmaster who lives in a 3rd world nation where a house costs 20 bucks and your Internet connection is $0.25 a month

If your content is bad, then Reddit won't do well for you.

[KrisKross]

Originally Posted by Squrr

I mentioned this on other forums, but my NSFW subreddits I left open had increased traffic over the blackout. They must have been bored

Boredom plus increased visibility. If you're subscribed to 100 subs and 50 of them went dark, the other 50 show up more frequently on your feed.

I have a sub with 500K subscribers but hadn't thought to check the traffic. You're right, big spike in both uniques/pageviews and new subscribers over the last week.

[notinmybackyard]

Originally Posted by trevesty

If your content is bad, then Reddit won't do well for you.

I need to put my troll pants on to respond to you.

2008 called and they want their bullshit back. Because to make an acceptable amount of money from Reddit you'll need to use a really cheap cell phone to film 2 women in hijabs who are eating each shit out of each other's assholes while some guy off camera yacks in Arab. Have goat tied up in the corner too and you might make a few extra bucks.

[trevesty]

Originally Posted by notinmybackyard

I need to put my troll pants on to respond to you.

2008 called and they want their bullshit back. Because to make an acceptable amount of money from Reddit you'll need to use a really cheap cell phone to film 2 women in hijabs who are eating each shit out of each other's assholes while some guy off camera yacks in Arab. Have goat tied up in the corner too and you might make a few extra bucks.

Oh, okay. Well, one of us definitely doesn't live in some 3rd world country and has definitely made an "acceptable amount of money" using Reddit over the last 15 years and the other is bitching.

[notinmybackyard]

Originally Posted by trevesty

Oh, okay. Well, one of us definitely doesn't live in some 3rd world country and has definitely made an "acceptable amount of money" using Reddit over the last 15 years and the other is bitching.

I'm mostly retired these days but what I built still continues. Plus, a lot of people have and continue to depend on us to pay their bills. So, what some people call acceptable is what I call not worth the effort because there are better places to make money.

As things stand,
Despite NOT doing business on Reddit it costs us money. On a good day we get idiots who have seen something that they like trying to get freebies because "everyone else gives it away". Whereas, on a bad day we've got fucking assholes with an agenda slagging us off.

In the meantime what we get from Reddit administration is sunshine blown up are asses and insulting pseudo arguments about "you don't know how social media works." Well we do know how it works and it's a fucking zoo full of stoned and horny junkies looking for entertainment. While the administration is a bunch of retarded and entitled, frat brats who drink lattes and believe they can re-invent society.

Honestly,
I don't have the resources to go it alone but I think the day is coming where I'm going to dust off my old rolodex and see who I can convince to buy Reddit. Put me in charge of the platform and I'll make Musk look like a boy scout. The company would be moved to Singapore and no one would get a subreddit unless they paid for it

[trevesty]

Originally Posted by notinmybackyard

I'm mostly retired these days but what I built still continues. Plus, a lot of people have and continue to depend on us to pay their bills. So, what some people call acceptable is what I call not worth the effort because there are better places to make money.

Your last sentence requires a lot of context. For example, I have a couple friends with massive Reddit bot farms who clear 6 figures monthly from spamming CPA offers in comments. One of those guys also sells his services to one of the bigger OF agencies and makes another 6 figures monthly from that. This is pretty acceptable money.


On the other hand, if you're manually submitting a GIF once daily of even great porn to a decently sized sub or 3, you will probably just add 3-4k to your bottom line on a good month.

Of course, there's people who spend 12 hours per day trying to "crack the code" and can't even buy a Bud Light from their efforts, then there's people somewhere in the middle of the above. This is just adult, too... Mainstream marketers have astroturfing down to a science on Reddit.

I've seen a lot of porn producers "try" Reddit - Reddit used to be my jam when I controlled a lot of big NSFW subs - and they failed miserably. I've seen a couple do insanely well, though, and add 10-15k from their bottom line because they took the time. For a porn studio with only a few (less than 5) full time employees, this is a game changer.

[plsureking]

one thing all these big social media companies have in common is they hate their users.

#

[crockett]

Originally Posted by sandman!

what % of users are going to leave because no more free api ride ?

1% 2% 5% ?

we will see how this plays out but i doubt it will be a big number

Well here is the deal. One of the things that no one really mentions is Reddit didn't even have an app until 2015 it was always 3rd party apps prior to that that people used. It then took Reddit a long time to even get their app up to par and even now many of the 3rd party apps are way better. So the reality is 3rd party apps were in use before Reddit even had an app of their own.

There are a sizable amount of people that access the site on 3rd party apps I think it's around 10-12% and many of those people.

[crockett]

Originally Posted by adtrafic

Most of the content on reddit these days is from tiktok or instagram.

Not really, not when you get to specific less mainstream subs. If you only browse the default type subs on r/all then yeah it's mostly just links to other sites which is the core of what Reddit is, it's a link agitator so to speak. However, the bulk of Reddit exists in smaller subs and they tend to be more like a forum but for every topic you can ever imagine.

[crockett]

Originally Posted by Retiree

WTF are you talking about? Twitter is currently the only social media that is not propaganda trash and that is worth spending time on.

Dude, Twitter is a shithole now and is filled with bots and racist fucks.. If you like what is going on on Twitter now, it's kinda a tell about yourself.. There is a reason it's value dropped from 44 billion to an estimated 14 billion since Musk took over.. It's now a toxic shithole. I'm surprised mass shooters haven't started doing their live streams there by now instead of 4chan.. Just saying.

[King Mark]

Reddit is a goldmine. You just gotta know what you looking for. If rightards think it's a communist freeloader utopia, you just haven't been smart enough to find subs like r/ScienceUncensored or r/Conservative etc 🤣

Reddit has something for everybody.

[notinmybackyard]

Originally Posted by trevesty

Your last sentence requires a lot of context.

I agree and this is where our conversation gets stuck. So let me say that I see the validity of your point. But from our perspective, I wouldn't shed a tear if a meteor crashed into Reddit and shut it down forever.

Originally Posted by King Mark

Reddit is a goldmine. You just gotta know what you looking for. If rightards think it's a communist freeloader utopia, you just haven't been smart enough to find subs like r/ScienceUncensored or r/Conservative etc ��

Reddit has something for everybody.

Let me know when there's a sub called r/ Shove your politics up your ass and just give me your fucking money. I don't give a damn who the politicians are on the money I just want as many of them as possible. So it stands to reason that the only Reddit users that interest me are buyers.

But as long as they jerk off without paying for it then as far as I'm concerned they're just communist freeloaders. I once beat the shit out of a jackass who used to stand outside our store jerking off in his pants watching our peep show girls during shift change.

[King Mark]

Originally Posted by notinmybackyard

I agree and this is where our conversation gets stuck. So let me say that I see the validity of your point. But from our perspective, I wouldn't shed a tear if a meteor crashed into Reddit and shut it down forever.



Let me know when there's a sub called r/ Shove your politics up your ass and just give me your fucking money. I don't give a damn who the politicians are on the money I just want as many of them as possible. So it stands to reason that the only Reddit users that interest me are buyers.

But as long as they jerk off without paying for it then as far as I'm concerned they're just communist freeloaders. I once beat the shit out of a jackass who used to stand outside our store jerking off in his pants watching our peep show girls during shift change.

Plenty of those too, but they tend to buy "directly" from the talent on OnlyFans and such.

If you don't learn how to digitally pimp (manage OnlyFans models) it's gonna be hard to middleman your way around these days. You gotta have something spectacular. Angry old man persona pushing his vintage porn stash ain't going to get you paid much in 2023.

[sandman!]

im sure the 3rd party apps will redo their biz model into a paid one and just pay the api fees from what i read of apollo app the cost comes out to $20 a year per user for api fee's so you sell the app for $30 a year.

Originally Posted by crockett

Well here is the deal. One of the things that no one really mentions is Reddit didn't even have an app until 2015 it was always 3rd party apps prior to that that people used. It then took Reddit a long time to even get their app up to par and even now many of the 3rd party apps are way better. So the reality is 3rd party apps were in use before Reddit even had an app of their own.

There are a sizable amount of people that access the site on 3rd party apps I think it's around 10-12% and many of those people.

[notinmybackyard]

Originally Posted by King Mark

Plenty of those too, but they tend to buy "directly" from the talent on OnlyFans and such.

If you don't learn how to digitally pimp (manage OnlyFans models) it's gonna be hard to middleman your way around these days. You gotta have something spectacular. Angry old man persona pushing his vintage porn stash ain't going to get you paid much in 2023.

We don't do business with only fans and we don't pimp models. The only thing more I have to say on the subject of Reddit is the platform is a serious pain in neck to us. For all the reasons that I've already stated.