Texas law HB 1181 etc what are you guys doing

[zoddy]

All these new laws where a handful of States want Govt ID and to paste a bunch of information on all your pages etc

What are you as webmasters doing about it, those that run free sites, blogs, tubes, forums etc?

- Nothing at all?
- Blocking the states that have the rules?
- Added all the crap they need for verification?

Thanks

[blackmonsters]

Google and Bing show tons of porn on their websites, so what are they doing about it.

[drexl]

Originally Posted by zoddy

All these new laws where a handful of States want Govt ID and to paste a bunch of information on all your pages etc

What are you as webmasters doing about it, those that run free sites, blogs, tubes, forums etc?

- Nothing at all?
- Blocking the states that have the rules?
- Added all the crap they need for verification?

Thanks

I'm thinking 2 or 3.

How do you identify visitors from a specific state? CloudFlare doesn't seem to have a firewall filter by state (they have by country and by continent).

Does anyone know the IPs for Texas?

[zoddy]

Originally Posted by drexl

I'm thinking 2 or 3.

How do you identify visitors from a specific state? CloudFlare doesn't seem to have a firewall filter by state (they have by country and by continent).

Does anyone know the IPs for Texas?

Most server hosts can block via state, though not sure about Cloudflare and how they run things or if you are just using cloudflare as a cache etc

Texas IP Ranges would just be a google search Texas IP Ranges and you will find stuff like this

https://www.xmyip.com/ip-addresses/united--states/texas

It isnt just texas there is 7 states now with similar rules and expect a Govt Verification system on your sites and a bunch of warnings.

[V_RocKs]

Louisiana, Arkansas, Montana, Mississippi, Utah, Virginia and Texas.

Porn hub elected to do #2 for Virginia, Utah and Mississippi. They will most likely do the same with Texas.

[drexl]

Originally Posted by zoddy

Most server hosts can block via state, though not sure about Cloudflare and how they run things or if you are just using cloudflare as a cache etc

Texas IP Ranges would just be a google search Texas IP Ranges and you will find stuff like this

https://www.xmyip.com/ip-addresses/united--states/texas

It isnt just texas there is 7 states now with similar rules and expect a Govt Verification system on your sites and a bunch of warnings.

Thanks.

Apparently cloudflare can block by region and/or postalCode, that seems more manageable. I need to investigate further.

[panel45]

Facts:

1. Porn is seen as bad by many, but lots of people still watch it.
2. The biggest porn market is the US.
3. pirate tubes make porn easy to find.

Conclusion:

1. The government is trying to ban porn with a law no one can stick to. Who's gonna share their ID just to watch porn? People want to keep this shit 100% anonymous.

2. but this ban wont touch the consumer. They can still get their fix from 1,000+ free tube sites.

3. The porn industry doesn't have a government lobby like movies or music do. So it's gonna get fucked in the ass and nobody's gonna give a damn.

4. Lots of porn companies are outside the US and dont pay US taxes. No incentive for the government to keep them, especially if they don't have lobbyists. And who the hell would want a donor associated with porn

5. MindGeek tried to make porn normal with billboards and press releases, but they got fucked. Their owner's facing lawsuits for the rest of their life. Lesson learned: don't try to normalise porn.

6. Porn's meant to be hidden under your bed. don't talk about it, don't admit it, just secretly watch it. thats how society accepts it

7. All states will pass this law eventually.people wont fight it because:
a) Whos gonna argue about porn when no one admits they watch it?
b) Porn's always available on free/pirate tube sites.

8. US porn companies will have to pack up and forget the US market. Its what happened to exchanges and online casinos. Visa and Mastercard will probably need age verification to process cards for your site if it's available in the US.

9. Big tube sites (top 10) will likely follow this rule and say "sorry, this content isnt available in your location". The smaller fish will take the risk and go full Brrrrrrrrrrrr on the US market.

10. Porn is going to be less profitable when US paying customers turn into free loaders.

[zoddy]

Originally Posted by V_RocKs

Louisiana, Arkansas, Montana, Mississippi, Utah, Virginia and Texas.

Porn hub elected to do #2 for Virginia, Utah and Mississippi. They will most likely do the same with Texas.

did they very interesting
I am no pornhub just a little fish but still considering,

[dUbster]

What happens if you don't do anything? who will come after you?

[CurrentlySober]

Originally Posted by zoddy

what are you guys doing

i am doing a poo

[zoddy]

Originally Posted by dUbster

What happens if you don't do anything? who will come after you?

Maybe no one, maybe someone. No Idea will they just go after the big players, will they go after some small fish, dunno. I am just trying to get a sense of what people are up to and their plans cause I really only have 3 decisions 1. Ignore it 2. Comply or 3. Block/redirect

[zoddy]

Originally Posted by panel45

Facts:

1. Porn is seen as bad by many, but lots of people still watch it.
2. The biggest porn market is the US.
3. pirate tubes make porn easy to find.

Conclusion:

1. The government is trying to ban porn with a law no one can stick to. Who's gonna share their ID just to watch porn? People want to keep this shit 100% anonymous.

2. but this ban wont touch the consumer. They can still get their fix from 1,000+ free tube sites.

3. The porn industry doesn't have a government lobby like movies or music do. So it's gonna get fucked in the ass and nobody's gonna give a damn.

4. Lots of porn companies are outside the US and dont pay US taxes. No incentive for the government to keep them, especially if they don't have lobbyists. And who the hell would want a donor associated with porn

5. MindGeek tried to make porn normal with billboards and press releases, but they got fucked. Their owner's facing lawsuits for the rest of their life. Lesson learned: don't try to normalise porn.

6. Porn's meant to be hidden under your bed. don't talk about it, don't admit it, just secretly watch it. thats how society accepts it

7. All states will pass this law eventually.people wont fight it because:
a) Whos gonna argue about porn when no one admits they watch it?
b) Porn's always available on free/pirate tube sites.

8. US porn companies will have to pack up and forget the US market. Its what happened to exchanges and online casinos. Visa and Mastercard will probably need age verification to process cards for your site if it's available in the US.

9. Big tube sites (top 10) will likely follow this rule and say "sorry, this content isnt available in your location". The smaller fish will take the risk and go full Brrrrrrrrrrrr on the US market.

10. Porn is going to be less profitable when US paying customers turn into free loaders.

yup cant say i disagree

[blackmonsters]

Originally Posted by dUbster

What happens if you don't do anything? who will come after you?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKFxu6F3ZXA

[fuzebox]

Originally Posted by panel45

9. Big tube sites (top 10) will likely follow this rule and say "sorry, this content isnt available in your location". The smaller fish will take the risk and go full Brrrrrrrrrrrr on the US market.

This is my takeaway

[Huggles]

I think it would be interesting to see if I could get free press for my website if I pretend to take a stand over it and then immediately cave under the media pressure and block the same sites as PornHub... could get me some exposure for my tube-killer!

[drexl]

Originally Posted by V_RocKs

Louisiana, Arkansas, Montana, Mississippi, Utah, Virginia and Texas.

Porn hub elected to do #2 for Virginia, Utah and Mississippi. They will most likely do the same with Texas.

Correct, I just tested that, however Xhamster went for #3. They use a 3rd party verification tool : Yoti. Is it approved by all 7 states and what about data privacy implications?

Also, I don't see any cam sites doing anything at all.

[brassmonkey]

porn harmful to minors? when we had the cable box i would turn to playboy and try to get titties... that blurred out bullshit! the sounds were enough i guess...

[CristianKissinger]

Here in Germany the law is similar. You must prevent children under the age of 18 from viewing porn. Some e.g. ladies.de or joyclub.de have solved this with an avs. They are located in Germany. You have to register and show your ID.

However, Xvideos, xhamster etc. is available without avs. They are not based in Germany, but in other EU countries, e.g. Holland, Cyprus.. or completely outside the EU

Chris

[brassmonkey]

Originally Posted by CristianKissinger

Here in Germany the law is similar. You must prevent children under the age of 18 from viewing porn. Some e.g. ladies.de or joyclub.de have solved this with an avs. They are located in Germany. You have to register and show your ID.

However, Xvideos, xhamster etc. is available without avs. They are not based in Germany, but in other EU countries, e.g. Holland, Cyprus.. or completely outside the EU

Chris

no wonder there is a population decline in that region... it's ok to sit at a mcdonalds and watch some female whip out large breast to feed her child... when i was a kid some lady did that... milk shooting all over the place...

[Holy Damage]

I will wait to see what the big guys will do

[phman79]

Well Pornhub to rescue
https://variety.com/2023/digital/new...ng-1235709902/

[esham]

https://www.theverge.com/2023/8/31/2...-blocked-judge

Finally a smart judge.

utah Judge dismisses lawsuit challenging Utah porn site age-verification law Aug 1, 2023

[zoddy]

score one for the good guys! or are we the bad guys? whatever love seeing that

[Mr Pheer]

I'm not doing anything about it. Business as usual.

[blackchariotnetwork]

Originally Posted by Mister Pheer

I'm not doing anything about it. Business as usual.

based and porn-pilled

[Vendzilla]

Originally Posted by drexl

Correct, I just tested that, however Xhamster went for #3. They use a 3rd party verification tool : Yoti. Is it approved by all 7 states and what about data privacy implications?

Also, I don't see any cam sites doing anything at all.

Flirt4free has been able to block locations for over a decade. They can block for a models privacy