the ENSHITIFICATION of Pornhub and Xvideos and all the tubes

[necoeds]

“Here is how platforms die: first, they are good to their users; then they abuse their users to make things better for their business customers; finally, they abuse those business customers to claw back all the value for themselves. Then, they die.

I call this enshittification, and it is a seemingly inevitable consequence arising from the combination of the ease of changing how a platform allocates value, combined with the nature of a “two sided market,” where a platform sits between buyers and sellers, hold each hostage to the other, raking off an ever-larger share of the value that passes between them.” ---- you can google for the whole wired article

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As of Today, Xvideos is now requiring you to upload full model contact info before uploading any videos. Pornhub already totally enshitified over the past few years, and now xvideos is following suit


I have TOTALLY LEFT PORNHUB AND XHAMSTER and removed all of my content from their platforms.

It's becoming clear that I'll be removing my content soon from other platforms, and retreating back to just being a paysite network.



THE TUBES SUCK DONKEY NUTS NOW

simple as that

fosta-sesta laws; These laws are the center of the new porn problems

Essentially, they equate sex work with human trafficking

They also fuck with section 230 protections for adult tube sites

[amacontent]

Great rant. Ill be happy to supply you with any content you need.

[zawali]

This is normal, requiring to upload models IDs is a good step in order to fight content stealing and republishing. if you need a platform in which you can upload without these verification steps I advice spankbang, eporner and tnaflix, these three sites have a good monthly traffic

[necoeds]

Originally Posted by zawali

This is normal, requiring to upload models IDs is a good step in order to fight content stealing and republishing. if you need a platform in which you can upload without these verification steps I advice spankbang, eporner and tnaflix, these three sites have a good monthly traffic

I've been uploading to them for 15 years and I have no history of problems. Xvideos also owns many porn production companies like legalporno.com (the gangbang site) and i've already heard from some models and other production teams that xvideos and legalporno steals models all the time by using info from id's from their xvideos site. DO NOT TRUST anyone with your model info. If you're an old established production company, just refuse.

The tubes need us, or they won't survive.

Although, to be fore, I also uploaded to thehun.net and sublimedirectory.com hahahaha, look how influential those sites are now-a-days haha

[SpicyM]

Originally Posted by necoeds

As of Today, Xvideos is now requiring you to upload full model contact info before uploading any videos.

You mean the mandatory model tagging? Or do they now require docs like c4s?

[necoeds]

Xvideos is now requiring all the docs and an extensive amount of mandatory fields … adds a lot of time to any upload, so what’s the point? I don’t see any upside for any paysite business to continue doing business with the tubes

Rather it reminds paysite owners that the relationship is not worth it, and that the other shoe has finally dropped, they don’t give a shit about big producers… small onlyfans level producers are much easier to rip off and the smaller producers don’t have near the work ahead to comply with these new rules, so it’s furthering the divide with larger producers

[SpicyM]

Originally Posted by necoeds

Xvideos is now requiring all the docs and an extensive amount of mandatory fields … adds a lot of time to any upload, so what’s the point? I don’t see any upside for any paysite business to continue doing business with the tubes

Rather it reminds paysite owners that the relationship is not worth it, and that the other shoe has finally dropped, they don’t give a shit about big producers… small onlyfans level producers are much easier to rip off and the smaller producers don’t have near the work ahead to comply with these new rules, so it’s furthering the divide with larger producers

I see now. Those idiots must be crazy.

I wonder how many models will agree to have their real names, addresses and copies of their IDs sent to some shady third parties.

And how about old movies shot many years ago? Are they going to delete those?

[CaptainHowdy]

Originally Posted by necoeds

I've been uploading to them for 15 years and I have no history of problems. Xvideos also owns many porn production companies like legalporno.com (the gangbang site) and i've already heard from some models and other production teams that xvideos and legalporno steals models all the time by using info from id's from their xvideos site.

Aye, there's the rub . . .

[Tubevideditor]

Its a terrible idea and xvideos are without doubt the hardest to work with with little to no communication.
Didn't they lose Visa and Mastercard and 'forgot' to tell us all who were uploading to them still?

I also saw a whole bunch of stuff of ours get delisted and only giving us this message:
"Edit required - This video is currently blocked and requires to be edited before being released"

What exactly am I supposed to edit out with no other info given. Everything was completley legal with nothing even slightly risky?

Now with the model ID thing, thats me done. They need our content to survive but it has to work both ways.
Whilst they can remove my uploads at will, I can guarantee if i want to remove all my uploads, it won't be easy and am currently limited to deleting just 3 per month.
That alone shows how worried they are from 'partners' having control of there own content there.

[SpicyM]

Originally Posted by necoeds

Xvideos is now requiring all the docs and an extensive amount of mandatory fields … adds a lot of time to any upload, so what’s the point? I don’t see any upside for any paysite business to continue doing business with the tubes

Rather it reminds paysite owners that the relationship is not worth it, and that the other shoe has finally dropped, they don’t give a shit about big producers… small onlyfans level producers are much easier to rip off and the smaller producers don’t have near the work ahead to comply with these new rules, so it’s furthering the divide with larger producers

check PM

[dcortez]

Originally Posted by SpicyM

I see now. Those idiots must be crazy.

I wonder how many models will agree to have their real names, addresses and copies of their IDs sent to some shady third parties.

And how about old movies shot many years ago? Are they going to delete those?

Is there no centralized registry of model IDs that can act as an authoritative third party, similar in function as PP is to individual credit cards accounts. One trusted source, the only source that has all the goods, safe and secure(ish).

When industry parties need model certification, they can, first show all their personal/corporate data, and then request authentication, without ever getting the model's personal information.

Like when you buy using PP, the merchant does not see your CC info.

[OneHungLo]

I recently purchased a program and almost 40% of the content couldn’t be used because they were missing the docs. I bet it’s going to get thin content wise over there.

[Shoplifter]

What happened with being required to be signed up with sheer.com at Xvideos? Are they still doing that?

[SpicyM]

Originally Posted by Shoplifter

What happened with being required to be signed up with sheer.com at Xvideos? Are they still doing that?

Yes and the shitbags won't let you use your own site's url in watermarks.

[necoeds]

Message from support on July 13, 2023 at 12:14 PM

According to our new compliance, we have to request the model documents for new uploads.
We will be have some exceptions. We will be working on it.
Regards.



Message from you on July 12, 2023 at 3:04 PM

Are you now really going to require real information on the models I am uploading?

I will not provide this for all of my models

I would like to continue to upload the way I have been

If this is no longer possible, then i'm done uploading to you guys

which would be an unfortunate turn of events.

I will provide model info ONLY if there is a valid reason for you to have it

I hope this doesn't end our partnerhsip, but I will not change on this subject.

You guys are connected to, and have purchased many production studios. I do not believe that you will not use the model information to contact models directly.

Jim

[necoeds]

XVIDEOS = CLOWNS

I removed all of my content from pornhub 3 months ago, and it looks like xvideos is next on the chopping block.

Xvideos just totally sucks now. Fuck them as a platform.

FUCKING idiots, who would trust them with their contracts and id's

Hello,
all video uploads need to have Models tagged.
You have to add as many model tags according to how many performers appear in the video (example: two people - two model tags)
If one of the models does not have a Model account on XV, you have to use the option ''Add new one'', which you can find under the “+” button.
Every model has to have their own tag with a unique stage name.
Fill out the model information and attach the required documents.
A consent form or model release is a required document you should sign with the model before shooting.
If you don’t have it, you can find the consent form templates on the internet.
Make sure the contract is made between the creator and the model - both sides have to sign the document.

[dcortez]

Originally Posted by necoeds

Make sure the contract is made between the creator and the model - both sides have to sign the document.

How important are contract witnesses these days?

1) In the case of a shoot where creator and model(s) are on site together, a witness for both signatures is possible, but how are witnesses vetted for authenticity?

2) More generally speaking, does a witness need to see the details of the contract, or can they just complete/sign the Witness section affirming that Creator and Model have signed the contract (whatever it may contain)?

With AI on the loose, I wonder how "deep fakes" will come into play with contractual realities?

[Huggles]

Originally Posted by necoeds

XVIDEOS = CLOWNS

I removed all of my content from pornhub 3 months ago, and it looks like xvideos is next on the chopping block.

I have built a tube-killer site.


What is the best way a new site could help people like you?


I can promote your site with 10 seconds (or less) of your content to make it look visually stimulating.


I just want to make it as easy as possible for producers and models to get their sexy moments in front of people with the least amount of headache. The tubes are SO rich and SO big they feel they are unstoppable at this point.


My project is designed to make the porn world fair again! DM me and I can show you my beta site and maybe we can talk about how I can make it easy for people like you to promote your stuff!

[Huggles]

Originally Posted by Tubevideditor

I also saw a whole bunch of stuff of ours get delisted and only giving us this message:
"Edit required - This video is currently blocked and requires to be edited before being released"

What exactly am I supposed to edit out with no other info given. Everything was completley legal with nothing even slightly risky?

Now with the model ID thing, thats me done. They need our content to survive but it has to work both ways.
Whilst they can remove my uploads at will, I can guarantee if i want to remove all my uploads, it won't be easy and am currently limited to deleting just 3 per month.
That alone shows how worried they are from 'partners' having control of there own content there.

I have built a tube-killer that is actually much more stimulating to look at than a tube site, all while requiring much less content and I will require no model ID or anything. I will just link back to your site and your own 2257 information.


The tube sites are so big, so rich, and so powerful. Let's fucking take them out.

[OneHungLo]

Originally Posted by Huggles

I have built a tube-killer site.


What is the best way a new site could help people like you?


I can promote your site with 10 seconds (or less) of your content to make it look visually stimulating.


I just want to make it as easy as possible for producers and models to get their sexy moments in front of people with the least amount of headache. The tubes are SO rich and SO big they feel they are unstoppable at this point.


My project is designed to make the porn world fair again! DM me and I can show you my beta site and maybe we can talk about how I can make it easy for people like you to promote your stuff!

Leave a contact here.

[Huggles]

[email protected]

Hit me up!

Definitely want to build a system that allows content creators AND affiliates to profit while making enough money for myself to own a basic shack on some property in Canada. (So a multi-millionaire at least, lol)

[INever]

I used to block out the name and address on the model's ID. Face, birth date and ID number was enough.

No one ever said anything. If they had, I wouldn't have done the deal with them.

[blackchariotnetwork]

Yeah and then they added sheer with no support from xvideos or sheer but maybe in a month or so you can get a reply. its so fucking stupid. I had all my models on xvideos now we have to re-do everything? I stopped uploading all together on pornhub they demonetize everything.

[Huggles]

Originally Posted by blackchariotnetwork

Yeah and then they added sheer with no support from xvideos or sheer but maybe in a month or so you can get a reply. its so fucking stupid. I had all my models on xvideos now we have to re-do everything? I stopped uploading all together on pornhub they demonetize everything.

Yeah PornHub used to de-activate all of my uploads while I could literally find CP on the site pretty easily. I reported the CP and it took like 2 weeks before it was actually removed.


Meanwhile, if I uploaded a video with a 10 second watermark in the video... it was removed pretty much in minutes...


Such is life... lie, cheat, steal and you get ahead!