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Old 09-03-2023, 02:46 PM   #1
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STEVE HARWELL about to die

https://www.tmz.com/2023/09/03/smash...-days-to-live/

SMASH MOUTH'S STEVE HARWELL
ON HIS DEATH BED
... Only Days to Live


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Holy shit what a fall... did you see the video???
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Holy shit what a fall... did you see the video???
fuck no! i was just about to post this op...
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Guess the guy would rather die than sing another song from the Shrek franchise . . .
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Liver failure is a bitch but at this point he's in his own world inside his head, and most likely accepted his fate and is just wondering why it's taking so long. Encephalopathy is a motherfucker but it does shield you from what is really going on.

Been there, done that.
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Why didn't he just get a Liver transplant. He must have the money
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Why didn't he just get a Liver transplant. He must have the money
You will not get a liver transplant just because you want or need one. If you have a history of abusing yourself through drinking, drugs, promiscuity, not following medical advice, even refusing a covid vaccine or not have a support system established with family or friends for your care after transplant, they will not give you an organ and pass it along to a better candidate that does follow the guidelines and doesn't have a history of high risk behavior and has a support system in place. And you can't just tell them your family will help you, they will meet and interview your personal support team and make sure they know what this entails and see if they are still dedicated to providing care for you afterwards. The recovery period if nothing goes wrong is at least a year.

They give the donor liver more consideration than the do for the patient. They consider it to be their liver. They only give them to the people that they think can survive for at least 5 years after transplant. Otherwise it is not considered a successful transplant, and they really do not like having unsuccessful transplants on their records. 20% of transplant recipients die within the first five years. If you have too many risk factors, the transplant board does not accept you and sends you off to palliative care, try to keep you comfortable until you die. And you'll die pretty quickly. At least it's not physically painful.

They treat the organ like it's more valuable than gold. There are not enough organ donors to supply the demand for organs. A donor organ has to have matching anatomy for the patient as well. It has to be sized right, and it has to be healthy. Only about 30% of people that even make it onto the transplant list actually get an organ in time before they die. The organs are only given to the absolute sickest people on the list.

It's not near as simple as saying "just go get a transplant".

I'm 18 months out from my transplant and I'm doing great. But I do everything they tell me and I research all the time on other patients that have died, why they died, and see if I can learn and not make mistakes.
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Whats interesting is someone from the adult industry on the toy and lingerie side of the biz replaced him as the front man for Smash Mouth.
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At least it's not physically painful.
I'm sold . . .
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It's not glamorous either. When your liver fails, it is in the stage of dying and it floods your bloodstream with ammonia. The ammonia crosses the blood/brain barrier and cause a condition called hepatic encephalopathy (say that fast 3x)

Hepatic encephalopathy is a condition where the liver, due to various reasons such as liver disease, can't do its job properly. Normally, the liver removes toxins and waste products from your blood. But when it's not working well, these harmful substances can build up in your bloodstream.

As a result, these toxins can affect your brain. You might experience symptoms like confusion, forgetfulness, changes in behavior, difficulty with coordination, and in severe cases, even unconsciousness.

Hepatic encephalopathy can be caused by various liver conditions, such as cirrhosis, hepatitis, or liver failure.

I dealt with that for four years. It was hardly noticeable at first, but by year 4 it was full blown. It's amazing I managed to keep anything business related running. But I did.

New liver works great. My liver enzymes are consistently in the teens. Lowest levels ever in my life. I was first found with elevated liver enzymes in the 300's at 18. All the brain fog is gone, creativity/ideas are back and I feel better than I have in maybe 7 years.
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I hate to say what is going to happen to the Smashmouth guy, but he is most likely going to start sleeping more and more... skin and eyes turn yellow, abdominal cavity fills with fluid in a condition known as ascites. It will stop your breathing eventually has to be drained in a procedure called paracentesis. Then come confusion, loss of memory, hallucinating, not know what is real or imagined, seeing dead relatives... I got to that point.

After that, comes the last time falling asleep and going into a coma with brain death. Then being unplugged from life support. I only escaped that by hours. Brain damage is what ultimately kills you in liver failure.
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I was first found with elevated liver enzymes in the 300's at 18.
300's at 18 from what?

Mine was 119 from an undiagnosed allergic reaction to Gluten.

It took 3 years off gluten to finally bring them back to normal range.
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He's dead. RIP.

https://currently.att.yahoo.com/ente...150306120.html


Steve Harwell, who cofounded the band Smash Mouth in 1994, has died at the age of 56, band manager Robert Hayes confirmed. The musician, best known for hits like “All Star” and “I’m a Believer,” died at his home in Boise, ID “surrounded by family and friends.”
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300's at 18 from what?

Mine was 119 from an undiagnosed allergic reaction to Gluten.

It took 3 years off gluten to finally bring them back to normal range.
I'm not sure what it was from, I didn't follow up with a doctor. I joined the Army two years after that and they were still in the same range, they just asked if I drink a lot. I don't drink at all and never did. Spent 7 years in the Army, did all kinds of stuff, was on flight status and had yearly flight physicals. Nothing was said about it.

Official cause of cirrhosis was specified as cryptogenic at first, and later changed to non-alcoholic fatty liver disease when it was time for transplant.
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there's no way you had non-alcoholic fatty liver disease at 18 years old
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Didn't say I did. I said my liver enzymes were elevated. A lot of things can cause that, as you know from your own experience. I'm adopted and do not know my family history, other than my biological father died at age 52. In three weeks I will have outlived him.
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You will not get a liver transplant just because you want or need one. If you have a history of abusing yourself through drinking, drugs, promiscuity, not following medical advice, even refusing a covid vaccine or not have a support system established with family or friends for your care after transplant, they will not give you an organ....
not the rule in all countries

ps. im happy you are doing well.

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looooool imagine taking that poison shit
Would you refuse a transplant needed to save your life over a vaccine?

Or would you say, nah bro I'm not taking that shit... and go die?

C'mon, which is it? There's no other option.

Vaccine and live... refuse and die. That was my choice.
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ps. im happy you are doing well.

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Yeah I'm not sure I'd trust those countries where you can buy organs on the black market. They are likely to take your money, let you die on the table and sell the organ to someone else. Who is going to say anything?

But it was considered.
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C'mon, which is it? There's no other option.
I cannot say online what I would do in that situation but Canada would never be the same place.
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You will not get a liver transplant just because you want or need one. If you have a history of abusing yourself through drinking, drugs, promiscuity, not following medical advice, even refusing a covid vaccine or not have a support system established with family or friends for your care after transplant, they will not give you an organ and pass it along to a better candidate that does follow the guidelines and doesn't have a history of high risk behavior and has a support system in place. And you can't just tell them your family will help you, they will meet and interview your personal support team and make sure they know what this entails and see if they are still dedicated to providing care for you afterwards. The recovery period if nothing goes wrong is at least a year.

They give the donor liver more consideration than the do for the patient. They consider it to be their liver. They only give them to the people that they think can survive for at least 5 years after transplant. Otherwise it is not considered a successful transplant, and they really do not like having unsuccessful transplants on their records. 20% of transplant recipients die within the first five years. If you have too many risk factors, the transplant board does not accept you and sends you off to palliative care, try to keep you comfortable until you die. And you'll die pretty quickly. At least it's not physically painful.

They treat the organ like it's more valuable than gold. There are not enough organ donors to supply the demand for organs. A donor organ has to have matching anatomy for the patient as well. It has to be sized right, and it has to be healthy. Only about 30% of people that even make it onto the transplant list actually get an organ in time before they die. The organs are only given to the absolute sickest people on the list.

It's not near as simple as saying "just go get a transplant".

I'm 18 months out from my transplant and I'm doing great. But I do everything they tell me and I research all the time on other patients that have died, why they died, and see if I can learn and not make mistakes.
Hey, thanks for sharing all this. I had no idea.
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https://www.msn.com/en-ca/health/oth...a036c25b&ei=10


Not too much longer and they will bring back the masks and vaxx pass in time for the election variant... this lady paid the price for sticking to her guns.
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Hey, thanks for sharing all this. I had no idea.
Yeah, I know. Only a few people outside of my immediate family knew.

Although I did tell a few people at Banyan Tree in Playa Del Carmen... The time I took Taya Parker as my +1. Weren't you there? That was right after the cirrhosis diagnosis.
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I hate to say what is going to happen to the Smashmouth guy, but he is most likely going to start sleeping more and more... skin and eyes turn yellow, abdominal cavity fills with fluid in a condition known as ascites. It will stop your breathing eventually has to be drained in a procedure called paracentesis. Then come confusion, loss of memory, hallucinating, not know what is real or imagined, seeing dead relatives... I got to that point.

After that, comes the last time falling asleep and going into a coma with brain death. Then being unplugged from life support. I only escaped that by hours. Brain damage is what ultimately kills you in liver failure.
Wow, that's crazy. Besides having a new lease on life, how has your life changed since your liver transplant? Like what kind of restrictions do you have? Are you on a special diet and Exercise regime etc?
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Wow, that's crazy. Besides having a new lease on life, how has your life changed since your liver transplant? Like what kind of restrictions do you have? Are you on a special diet and Exercise regime etc?
Imagine giving a shit about life in 2023... lol


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Personally, I am glad he made the choice he did and I'm pretty sure that his wife and family are happy too.
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Hey, if you enjoy clown world, more power to you my friend!

Personally I'm banned everywhere and unable to even do anything but sell porn to make money.

It is what it is in western nations!
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an undiagnosed allergic reaction to Gluten.
are you celiac? that shit is a bitch on the liver and a whole bunch of other organs like the kidneys. never touched my liver, it just seems to strike whatever organ(s) it fancies

was great when the yuppies learned that gluten actually ages the skin as well, so much easier to find gluten free products than it was 20 years ago

although guessing you still have to read ingredient labels like a fiend. 'hydrolyzed wheat protein'...put product back on the shelf and back away slowly

the yuppies helped. they don't want wrinkles, we're just trying to stay alive

would insert a perfect Wyclef track in here but not appropriate in a death thread



sad about that Harwell dude, RIP. 56 is pretty young to flame out over a bottle



@Pheer, you are a very strong man. delighted you're in the land of the living. I like the way you live your life, as in conduct in this world. a liver is not the same as a kidney. someone lost their life and through that you could live. heavy stuff. whomever signed their organ donor card is honoured by you

even if you're an epic cunt who pretends you lost your hat
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sad about that Harwell dude, RIP. 56 is pretty young to flame out over a bottle

He is lucky, he lived through the best times and went out young like a champ.


2024+ is just going to be more woke nightmare shit, I pray every day I just don't wake up because each day is yet another man-made horror beyond my comprehension!
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Lost so many friends my barber just died at 40, great guy. Now they are pushing for round two, not to derail the thread but the information is great to know about the liver transplants.
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setting aside the 'to vaxx or not to vaxx' ish that is disrespectful to both the deceased man who was topic of the thread (honestly had no idea who that was til I read the article) and Pheer, I wonder what Harwell's "best times" were?

drinking as heavily as he did apparently I would guess most of his '"best times" were a blur. one cannot connect with/fully experience the world around them if tanked


you've been pretty open here about your own struggles with booze. I commend you for that and hope you manage to kick it. just don't try to pretend that living that way is 'champion' behaviour cuz it's really the opposite. escaping/retreating into a bottle is not strength


I really doubt those in his circle feel he went out like a champ. he chose his own way in life, that's cool. but the result was that he stole from a lot of other people probably. not money. rather he took their time spent on their worry, stress, grief, loss

unquantifiable in monetary terms


dude threw his life away. it's sad and not something to applaud
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Wow, that's crazy. Besides having a new lease on life, how has your life changed since your liver transplant? Like what kind of restrictions do you have? Are you on a special diet and Exercise regime etc?
Special Diet: Can't have anything with Grapefruit in it. Some compound in grapefruit lowers the efficacy of one of the immunosuppressants I take to keep my body from attacking the foreign liver.

All other fruits, meats, vegetables are fine. Recommended not to have high-fructose corn syrup, or at least limit it. My old liver did like HFC syrup and it's in almost everything in the USA that come in a package or sweetened drink. I used to love sodas and I still do, but don't have them very often anymore.

Recommended low-sodium diet, which I've already been on for years because of having a bad liver in the first place. I don't even like salty food anymore and I really notice salt in foods much more than I did before.

Can't have raw or undercooked meats or eggs for obvious reasons. If I catch a foodborne infection, will have a really hard time fighting it off because of being on immunosuppressants. So my steaks are all medium-well now and everything else is well done. I don't take chances.

Exercise: For the first year, only thing I was allowed to do was take a walk. Wasn't allowed to lift more than 10 pounds. And I didn't want to either. My incision literally runs from the right side of my ribcage, follows the contour of my ribcage, all the way over to the left side. Was 112 staples to close it. That takes a long time to heal. I couldn't even sit upright in my office chair for more than an hour for the first 8 months, so I chilled in the living room in a recliner with my macbook.

After 8 months, I could tolerate it longer and longer until I finally got back to normal right close to the 1 year mark. At the 1 year checkup, Dr said I was doing great and cleared me to slowly return to normal activity.

First thing I did was get another bicycle. I love biking, always have. I had sold my bikes three years earlier because of balance issues that come with encephalopathy. I live in a nice community with 4 small lakes and biking trails around them so I go often, and some weights to get my muscle tone back. Lost most of my muscle mass in the hospital for 3 months.

Lifestyle Changes: Only really negative issue I have is I've lost my tolerance to hot weather. It used to not bother me much but last summer and this summer, I just stay inside if it's 100 because it make me physically sick now after about 15 - 20 minutes. And Las Vegas is over 100 almost all summer. I've been here for 20 years, home is paid off and the value has increased tremendously, thinking about selling and moving to a somewhat cooler climate and just paying cash for a new place with some land.

I also have to avoid the sun, or wear sunscreen often. One of the immunosuppressants carries a 65% greater risk of skin cancer with sun exposure. I'm Norwegian/Scott descent and never stayed in the sun for long in the first place, so this isn't much of an issue.

Other than that? Life is good! This whole thing brought me and my wife much closer, whole family is closer... 3 kids, 3 grandkids... I take the time that I get to spend with them much more seriously. Some of my friendships have grown stronger. AaronM, Baddog, Boneprone, Michael Guy, and Loni Barret (all are webmasters) all came to visit me while I was in Portland for the transplant. Lots of calls and letters. Some amazing offers of support from business associates and Adult Friend Finder even stepped up. The kind of things you never forget, people having your back. People I didn't even know filling up my facebook inbox, offering well-wishes and prayers for me.

It was a humbling experience. I remember daily that I'm not really supposed to be here. Some things that used to bother me, I just let go. Some things I take more seriously.

I take more time off than I did before all this happened. Spent a week in Upper Yosemite a month ago, just enjoying the mountains and lake, did some fishing and drone flying.

I'm back to doing things I liked to do before I got sick. Flying RC planes and drones again, building rockets, taught myself to fly helicopters, doing some 3d printing, working on electric guitars, a lot of BBQ (I really like smoked meats), I'm able to pass the FAA medical exam now so I may go flying some more, and looking forward to scuba diving again.

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@Pheer, you are a very strong man. delighted you're in the land of the living. I like the way you live your life, as in conduct in this world. a liver is not the same as a kidney. someone lost their life and through that you could live. heavy stuff. whomever signed their organ donor card is honoured by you

even if you're an epic cunt who pretends you lost your hat
Jesus... send me your address, I'll send you an official Army watch cap for Christmas

I don't know anything about the donor. They literally do not tell you anything other than the risk factors and cause of death, and then you decide if you want to accept the organ or not. There were no significant risk factors and cause of death was only stated as brain death. This was the second liver offered to me and I was out of time. I accepted the first liver 6 days earlier, but when it arrived they said it was not viable for transplant and cancelled the surgery. Was pretty devastated and sure I was dying at that point, but had accepted it.

Even though they tell you nothing about the donor, I did write a very nice letter of appreciation and sent it to UNOS, who tells me they will forward it to the donor's family. I'm extremely grateful and have a newfound respect for organ donors.
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I wanted the one off your head. still don't believe your 'it got lost' story


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I don't know anything about the donor. They literally do not tell you anything other than the risk factors and cause of death, and then you decide if you want to accept the organ or not. There were no significant risk factors and cause of death was only stated as brain death. This was the second liver offered to me and I was out of time. I accepted the first liver 6 days earlier, but when it arrived they said it was not viable for transplant and cancelled the surgery. Was pretty devastated and sure I was dying at that point, but had accepted it.

Even though they tell you nothing about the donor, I did write a very nice letter of appreciation and sent it to UNOS, who tells me they will forward it to the donor's family. I'm extremely grateful and have a newfound respect for organ donors

yep. know that first hand with my dad when he passed. no names, just anon thank you cards. helped so much in the grieving process. them writing about what the donations did for them. sign you organ donor cards!!


my transplant was a friend, a whole lengthy expensive process (I sent money to his mom to pay for the aftercare). barely any obtrusive scars on either of us, we used a lot of aloe and vit E and salt water and tea and herbs as dressing

was really raw for a bit but healed quickly. I got a kidney from a Black man and they are prone to keloid scars. it didn't happen, still a friend to this day obv. rather family. he was part of the drive in my neighbourhood seeking a match. and he stepped up and saved my life. no words for that

his torso is smooth

immunosuppressants don't get me started. so unfun


Pheer is alive and peeps can see through my dad's eyes. sigh your donor cards
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Not getting vaccinated against covid is self-abuse? Isn't it the other way around?
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I think most people who took the "vaccine" will say they are happy about their decision but they will always have in the back of their mind that they took something and the unvaccinated didn't, and the unvaxxed are still around and they are too... but something went into their body... and a lot of people profited.
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I think most people who took the "vaccine" will say they are happy about their decision but they will always have in the back of their mind that they took something and the unvaccinated didn't, and the unvaxxed are still around and they are too... but something went into their body... and a lot of people profited.
Somehow the "others" survived "the winter of death", too. lol
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Their reasoning is, the immunosuppressants that a transplant patient has to take for the rest of their life, lowers the immune system so much that a covid infection would be very hard to fight. Same with the flu. And 18 months ago, the hospitals were full of dying covid patients. Their main priority is the survival of the organ for five years.

So if you are on immunosuppressants, then you are immuno-compromised and at a higher risk for covid, which was killing a lot of people and therefore a higher risk of dying along with their liver.

So yes, they considered not having the covid vaccine before transplant to be too risky.
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And 18 months ago, the hospitals were full of dying covid patients.
Would be very interesting to know the % of people who died on remdesivir and who were ventilated VS people who took horse paste and Joe Rogan pills while bleaching their assholes with sunlight and qanon rays from reptile people peeking out from behind David Icke's ballsack
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He is lucky, he lived through the best times and went out young like a champ.


2024+ is just going to be more woke nightmare shit, I pray every day I just don't wake up because each day is yet another man-made horror beyond my comprehension!
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There are 200 countries in the world...in most life is still great, only a few joined the woke clown era.
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