Probilling - would you recommend them? - GoFuckYourself.com

K2Andrew · 05-27-2003, 07:39 PM

Has any one used ProBilling as a Processor and if so do you have any comments to say about them - how would you rate them, are they reasonable with their scrubbing, have you had problems with them, would you recommend them...

hershie · 05-27-2003, 09:08 PM

I just added them a few days ago for one off content set sales. It was very simple to set up and the first couple of transactions went fine. I only am using them as they are located in Canada so I hope to god they will protect me more then iBill did when Visa came knocking saying you couldn't cross region process as iBill was doing for me through the Euro region since no IPSP has a Canadian banking relationship for high risk merchants apparently. I also just set up ePassporte as a payment option in the last couple of days so its been crazy over here.

notjoe · 05-27-2003, 09:14 PM

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Originally posted by hershie
I just added them a few days ago for one off content set sales. It was very simple to set up and the first couple of transactions went fine. I only am using them as they are located in Canada so I hope to god they will protect me more then iBill did when Visa came knocking saying you couldn't cross region process as iBill was doing for me through the Euro region since no IPSP has a Canadian banking relationship for high risk merchants apparently. I also just set up ePassporte as a payment option in the last couple of days so its been crazy over here.

Their billing is done outside of Canada, in the UK i believe. Still though, i use them for all my billing (paysite wise) and they are indeed a strong c ompany with a pretty good program running and their DirectCheck Rocks!

Webby · 05-27-2003, 11:27 PM

Yep.. proBilling are sound!

Centurion · 05-27-2003, 11:43 PM

I completely disagree. They lost their merchant account last fall that resulted in a lot of lost signups.

They were FORCED into heavy duty scrubbing for the remainder of 2002 to PROVE to Visa that they would not take "risky" signups.

And (this is not just me..but from another source on the "inside") they are facing the SAME problem WSB faced and frankly, would strongly advise you NOT use them less you want the same scenario.

Get over the $750 and signup with someone like ccbill that is SOLID! Probilling is NOT!

The Click · 05-28-2003, 12:05 AM

They are Canada's answer to all your billing needs.

hershie · 05-28-2003, 12:06 AM

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Originally posted by Centurion

And (this is not just me..but from another source on the "inside") they are facing the SAME problem WSB faced and frankly, would strongly advise you NOT use them less you want the same scenario.

Oy vay.

BigBucks · 05-28-2003, 04:31 AM

Hi,

I work for Global Charge, a UK based online billing company. We provide the following products:

1. Credit card processing
2. Debit card processing
3. Dialer
4. 1-900

We pay weekly and have been serving the webmaster community for 5 years.

If you need anything just e-mail me at [email protected]

12clicks · 05-28-2003, 05:04 AM

I have to bookmark this thread so I can bump it up when the next round of boo hooing starts from the guys too cheap to pay the 750.00

The Click · 05-28-2003, 06:25 AM

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Originally posted by 12clicks
I have to bookmark this thread so I can bump it up when the next round of boo hooing starts from the guys too cheap to pay the 750.00

It has nothing to do with the $750!!! I shit $750!!! It has to do with VISA RULES for Canadians.

12clicks · 05-28-2003, 06:27 AM

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Originally posted by The Click

It has nothing to do with the $750!!! I shit $750!!! It has to do with VISA RULES for Canadians.

I'm sure.

and your sig has nothing to do with your posts.

directfiesta · 05-28-2003, 08:50 AM

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Originally posted by 12clicks

I'm sure.

and your sig has nothing to do with your posts.

FYI, aside from the $ 750.00, you need a US presence. This is what is more complicated, and has more repercussions on the tax treatment of your business.

So, 12clicks, stop thinking were cheap. I would love to see the roles reversed.

I did a US corp, got a SIN, continued to use Ibill for rebills onlyand they still haven't payed me ( since dec.15th!) It is the run around.

12clicks · 05-28-2003, 04:51 PM

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Originally posted by directfiesta

FYI, aside from the $ 750.00, you need a US presence. This is what is more complicated, and has more repercussions on the tax treatment of your business.

So, 12clicks, stop thinking were cheap. I would love to see the roles reversed.

I did a US corp, got a SIN, continued to use Ibill for rebills onlyand they still haven't payed me ( since dec.15th!) It is the run around.

sorry dopey. wrong again. Get yourself a real processor.

p00p · 05-28-2003, 04:57 PM

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Originally posted by 12clicks
I have to bookmark this thread so I can bump it up when the next round of boo hooing starts from the guys too cheap to pay the 750.00

I'm Canadian, and I agree with you. I'm not too cheap to pay it, I just don't want to. But, it is only a matter of time before Canadians run out of processors to use.
Tick-tock-tick-tock......

p00p · 05-28-2003, 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by The Click

It has nothing to do with the $750!!! I shit $750!!! It has to do with VISA RULES for Canadians.

Get someone from probilling on here to explain how they plan on skirting the Visa regs. Until I hear it from them, and they guarantee their clients won't have to pay it, I will continue to believe it is only a matter of time before ProBilling clients will have to pay the Visa fee, too.

12clicks · 05-28-2003, 05:13 PM

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Originally posted by p00p

I'm Canadian, and I agree with you. I'm not too cheap to pay it, I just don't want to. But, it is only a matter of time before Canadians run out of processors to use.
Tick-tock-tick-tock......

It's never been about canadians. Some of my best friends are canadians

its about doing what you have to for your business. In this business, if you cut corners, you die.

p00p · 05-28-2003, 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 12clicks

It's never been about canadians. Some of my best friends are canadians
its about doing what you have to for your business. In this business, if you cut corners, you die.

I'm not happy this is happening, but I am glad. It get's rid of the cling-ons, and makes me tighten up the ship on our end.

thor54 · 05-28-2003, 05:22 PM

Hey guys

E-mail me directly with any questions. I'll be glad to provide some insight.

K2Andrew · 05-29-2003, 12:32 PM

we all have our own reasons for staying with or leaving a particular supplier. I have my reasons for looking for a new processor and that's why I'm looking for feedback on Probilling. I'd especially like to hear from anyone who is using their affiliate program and whether or not it has met your needs and expectations

Centurion · 05-29-2003, 12:55 PM

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Originally posted by thor54
Hey guys

E-mail me directly with any questions. I'll be glad to provide some insight.

Hi Thor! (Thor is truly the ONLY bright spot at ProBilling, and the only person that really goes out of his way to give customer support!)

Rather than have people email you, why don't you just make a public post as to how Probilling will NEVER charge the $750.00 fee that everyone is worried about.

Quickest way between two points is a straight line.
Here's the straight line!

p00p · 05-29-2003, 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Centurion

Hi Thor! (Thor is truly the ONLY bright spot at ProBilling, and the only person that really goes out of his way to give customer support!)

Rather than have people email you, why don't you just make a public post as to how Probilling will NEVER charge the $750.00 fee that everyone is worried about.

Quickest way between two points is a straight line.
Here's the straight line!

I second that.

p00p · 05-29-2003, 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BigBucks
Hi,

I work for Global Charge, a UK based online billing company. We provide the following products:

1. Credit card processing
2. Debit card processing
3. Dialer
4. 1-900

We pay weekly and have been serving the webmaster community for 5 years.

If you need anything just e-mail me at [email protected]

Step up to the plate! I remember you guys from way back.

There is no information on your site about credit card processing. Do you require your clients to have a UK presence? Do they have to pay the Visa fees? If not, how are you avoiding this situation? Do you do third party CC processing, or do you require the client to have a merchant account?

05-27-2003, 07:39 PM	#1
K2Andrew Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Canada Posts: 8	Probilling - would you recommend them? Has any one used ProBilling as a Processor and if so do you have any comments to say about them - how would you rate them, are they reasonable with their scrubbing, have you had problems with them, would you recommend them...

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The Click Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Canada Posts: 1,685	They are Canada's answer to all your billing needs. __________________ ICQ: 31-30-30

05-28-2003, 04:31 AM	#8
BigBucks Registered User Join Date: May 2003 Location: UK Posts: 75	Hi, I work for Global Charge, a UK based online billing company. We provide the following products: 1. Credit card processing 2. Debit card processing 3. Dialer 4. 1-900 We pay weekly and have been serving the webmaster community for 5 years. If you need anything just e-mail me at [email protected] __________________ BigBucks...

05-28-2003, 05:04 AM	#9
12clicks Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: God's right hand Posts: 19,789	I have to bookmark this thread so I can bump it up when the next round of boo hooing starts from the guys too cheap to pay the 750.00 __________________ I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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05-27-2003, 09:08 PM	#2
hershie Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 4,642	I just added them a few days ago for one off content set sales. It was very simple to set up and the first couple of transactions went fine. I only am using them as they are located in Canada so I hope to god they will protect me more then iBill did when Visa came knocking saying you couldn't cross region process as iBill was doing for me through the Euro region since no IPSP has a Canadian banking relationship for high risk merchants apparently. I also just set up ePassporte as a payment option in the last couple of days so its been crazy over here.

05-27-2003, 11:27 PM	#4
Webby Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Far far away - as possible Posts: 14,956	Yep.. proBilling are sound!

05-27-2003, 11:43 PM	#5
Centurion Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: SeATtle Posts: 6,033	I completely disagree. They lost their merchant account last fall that resulted in a lot of lost signups. They were FORCED into heavy duty scrubbing for the remainder of 2002 to PROVE to Visa that they would not take "risky" signups. And (this is not just me..but from another source on the "inside") they are facing the SAME problem WSB faced and frankly, would strongly advise you NOT use them less you want the same scenario. Get over the $750 and signup with someone like ccbill that is SOLID! Probilling is NOT!

05-29-2003, 12:32 PM	#19
K2Andrew Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Canada Posts: 8	we all have our own reasons for staying with or leaving a particular supplier. I have my reasons for looking for a new processor and that's why I'm looking for feedback on Probilling. I'd especially like to hear from anyone who is using their affiliate program and whether or not it has met your needs and expectations