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Old 10-19-2016, 11:54 AM   #1
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Anyone strugglin with sales. This shit is depressing

June = sucked
july = sucked
september = same
october = same

thats 4 months of shit.

Anyone else? just me?
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Old 10-19-2016, 12:22 PM   #2
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Just decided to let 4 mainstream domains expire that are all at least 8 years old.

That says something.

Sales in other areas are way down.
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Old 10-19-2016, 12:27 PM   #3
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we're in a recession. but the media wants hilary to win so there wont be any bad news about the economy until november 9 earliest.
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Just decided to let 4 mainstream domains expire that are all at least 8 years old.

That says something.

Sales in other areas are way down.
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Old 10-19-2016, 01:07 PM   #6
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June = sucked
july = sucked
september = same
october = same

thats 4 months of shit.

Anyone else? just me?
What sponsors?
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Old 10-19-2016, 01:13 PM   #7
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i had to change things up. getting ready for holiday orders 90% is already sold(offline biz). i found sum good stuff just fuking around on google. people that don't post here. i also added some niches to my mix
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I'm beginning to think it's just a cam world now. I don't have the resources to buy thousands of dollars in content and spend the time with an industry's leading CMS because of a whirlwind of responsibilities that bark up my tree when I try to study it. That's with member sites.

Cams seem good as gold. It's just a lot of work making sure everything is ok hourly.
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i actually found something a few days ago. it's free!! i can't believe it! just getting in cams and i luv it!
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Old 10-19-2016, 03:27 PM   #10
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I'm beginning to think it's just a cam world now.
It is.

Google SERPS are packed with free porn tubes, giving away full length HD movies and upselling cams.

How can you sell something that is already free?
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Summer has been tough going but September has been good and October ok. Let's hope after the election people feel better about spending.
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It is.

Google SERPS are packed with free porn tubes, giving away full length HD movies and upselling cams.

How can you sell something that is already free?
Its been that way for years now, so what?

Sales are shitty because of this insane Election.
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I heard through the grapevine that visa/mastercard changed their chargeback rules. They're stricter. Strangely, the drop of signups matches the date where these new rules were officially applied by processors.

It is not been scientiffically proven and no processors are confirming it, I however have the feeling that the scrub level reaches the roof at this moment.
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June = sucked
july = sucked
september = same
october = same

thats 4 months of shit.

Anyone else? just me?
How do you generate traffic?

What programs do you promote? What niches?
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Old 10-20-2016, 12:37 PM   #17
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Summer has been tough going but September has been good and October ok. Let's hope after the election people feel better about spending.
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Its time to evolve to something else gentleman's.... Since Pamela Anderson came out and said that porn are for losers, my sales drop significantly... Ive made good income doing this but I feel like I need to find something else to do or in 5 months i will be sleeping on the streets... I have a 1 year old daughter, Its not the time to procrastinate, I have to take action.... Im also not renewing some adult domains, see you on the other side boys!!!
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Its been that way for years now, so what?
So it's what's fucking up the sales.

Virtually all the low/middle class webmasters have been pushed out of the biz.

There are hardly any affiliates left, there are hardly any independent webmasters left, porn is being given away for free in hopes of selling a cam membership.
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Virtually all the low/middle class webmasters have been pushed out of the biz.

There are hardly any affiliates left, there are hardly any independent webmasters left, porn is being given away for free in hopes of selling a cam membership.
Correct. And it's a one way street. Adapt or die?
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So it's what's fucking up the sales.

Virtually all the low/middle class webmasters have been pushed out of the biz.

There are hardly any affiliates left, there are hardly any independent webmasters left, porn is being given away for free in hopes of selling a cam membership.
You definitely hit that nail on the head. I have wasted time and money on content and CMS's. I push other's stuff to just brainwash people into cams. Sad, but ads aren't doing well etc. I guess you gotta be a big man to get sales.
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Its time to evolve to something else gentleman's.... Since Pamela Anderson came out and said that porn are for losers, my sales drop significantly... Ive made good income doing this but I feel like I need to find something else to do or in 5 months i will be sleeping on the streets... I have a 1 year old daughter, Its not the time to procrastinate, I have to take action.... Im also not renewing some adult domains, see you on the other side boys!!!
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we're in a recession. but the media wants hilary to win so there wont be any bad news about the economy until november 9 earliest.
If Romney or Trump were President right now, how would the economy be any different? How was the economy under the last Republican President?
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So it's what's fucking up the sales.

Virtually all the low/middle class webmasters have been pushed out of the biz.

There are hardly any affiliates left, there are hardly any independent webmasters left, porn is being given away for free in hopes of selling a cam membership.
Again, so what? This has been the scenario for YEARS now and some of us (some) still make sales. So it does not explain why, all of a sudden, THIS year, things have dried up to record lows.

Except one thing: the Presidential Election. If sales still suck cock come mid-December then we can panic.
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Again, so what? This has been the scenario for YEARS now and some of us (some) still make sales. So it does not explain why, all of a sudden, THIS year, things have dried up to record lows.

Except one thing: the Presidential Election. If sales still suck cock come mid-December then we can panic.
If sales are steadily declining then every month would see record lows so yes, that would explain it.
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Again, so what? This has been the scenario for YEARS now and some of us (some) still make sales. So it does not explain why, all of a sudden, THIS year, things have dried up to record lows.

Except one thing: the Presidential Election. If sales still suck cock come mid-December then we can panic.
so... in the meantime, learn new skills... be positive.
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Again, so what? This has been the scenario for YEARS now and some of us (some) still make sales. So it does not explain why, all of a sudden, THIS year, things have dried up to record lows.

Except one thing: the Presidential Election. If sales still suck cock come mid-December then we can panic.
Dude, don't play dumb.
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Its been that way for years now, so what?

Sales are shitty because of this insane Election.

Possibly, but I doubt it. Usually when people get stressed they tune out, not tune in.
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I heard through the grapevine that visa/mastercard changed their chargeback rules. They're stricter. Strangely, the drop of signups matches the date where these new rules were officially applied by processors.

It is not been scientiffically proven and no processors are confirming it, I however have the feeling that the scrub level reaches the roof at this moment.
This is true. It's pointless at this time to have an eu mid. At 1% cb thresholds and all the bs of getting setup in a foreign country (if your purpose was to get a mid and not hide money) it's pointless. I can't push much of anything through netbilling these days. The us mids convert much better than the eu ones. I'm sure they are going through a conservative periord to see how they can handle the 1%. I'm sure they will open up more soon. Until then it's cheaper to run 3rd party.
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Again, so what? This has been the scenario for YEARS now and some of us (some) still make sales. So it does not explain why, all of a sudden, THIS year, things have dried up to record lows.

Except one thing: the Presidential Election. If sales still suck cock come mid-December then we can panic.
Different facets of generations are coming of age. The 18-24 yo's have litterally grown up with the internet as we know it now. Not spanking to a 3 second mpeg that took a day to download. I'd conjecture cams are leveling off too and tubes aren't growing monetarily straight up on the chart anymore. Overall, everything just seems meh these days. Nothing is worth stroking your cock to. I only stoke to my own stuff and admittedly that's less than it was. I haven't seen anything from anyone that is good. There is just content less miserable than other content.
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In case, you are not making money, then you need to look at your business model, it would be better to discuss it on this forum, at least you will get some idea.
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This is true. It's pointless at this time to have an eu mid. At 1% cb thresholds and all the bs of getting setup in a foreign country (if your purpose was to get a mid and not hide money) it's pointless. I can't push much of anything through netbilling these days. The us mids convert much better than the eu ones. I'm sure they are going through a conservative periord to see how they can handle the 1%. I'm sure they will open up more soon. Until then it's cheaper to run 3rd party.
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Different facets of generations are coming of age. The 18-24 yo's have litterally grown up with the internet as we know it now. Not spanking to a 3 second mpeg that took a day to download. I'd conjecture cams are leveling off too and tubes aren't growing monetarily straight up on the chart anymore. Overall, everything just seems meh these days. Nothing is worth stroking your cock to. I only stoke to my own stuff and admittedly that's less than it was. I haven't seen anything from anyone that is good. There is just content less miserable than other content.
Blacked?
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I earn about half what I made 6 years ago, and working harder than I did then. And I promote a very specialized niche.

The writing is on the wall that it's only going to get worse. People are now used to getting it for free and are flippant when asked to pay. My own friend told me "Porn is free everywhere, only idiots pay for porn".

Now Im going to diversify and have half my business be porn and the other half starting a B to B service for mainstream companies.
Im dreading maintream, but if I want to eat 3 years from now I'll have to change my focus.
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Old 10-21-2016, 05:59 AM   #46
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I make more sales month to month. Not less. If you are in a downward spiral it means you should consider doing something else. Not saying McDonald's, just something else in industry.
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Old 10-21-2016, 06:44 AM   #47
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depends on what you do, I know some guys that left the biz like 10 years ago, they used to submit one gallery per day to the hun and worldsex, it paid their home. ten they complained it doesn't work anymore, adult is dead and they need to get a day job.
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Old 10-21-2016, 09:15 AM   #49
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I make more sales month to month. Not less. If you are in a downward spiral it means you should consider doing something else. Not saying McDonald's, just something else in industry.
Not true. There is no way you can beat each month every month indefinitely. Maintaining after the point of diminishing return is actually excellent for a mature business. Speaking as a program and not an affiliate I have more data to go by. Shit is definitely odd so we're changing things up inside and out bottom to top. Figure I have a 100 sales by 10am, double that by midnight conservatively. I don't even think that's a lot, but I'm sure it's more than several affiliates in this thread doing 10 a day and now 5 day and saying something is up. I do enough volume to know when something is wrong. That's why we're overhauling and simplifying some stuff. I have full confidence I will right my ship. I always do. I wouldnt have thrown my own money back into it to redo thinhs if I didn't have absolute faith in myself, my staff, my content, and my production team. We have some cool stuff coming out.
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depends on what you do, I know some guys that left the biz like 10 years ago, they used to submit one gallery per day to the hun and worldsex, it paid their home. ten they complained it doesn't work anymore, adult is dead and they need to get a day job.
Key-phrase here is "10 years ago"

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