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Kelli58 · 01-16-2025, 06:18 AM

Breaking News 🚨 Kansas Files Lawsuit Against Metart Over Age Verification Law Violations.

The lawsuit alleges that SARJ LLC, a Seattle-based technology company, has failed to implement commercially reasonable age verification measures across its platforms. They are seeking $10,000 per violation, per day.

The lawsuit alleges that SARJ LLC, a Seattle-based technology company, has failed to implement commercially reasonable age verification measures across its platforms, which include:

metartnetwork.com
metart.com
metartx.com
sexart.com
vivthomas.com
thelifeerotic.com
eroticbeauty.com
lovehairy.com
domai.com
goddessnudes.com
rylskyart.com
stunning18.com
straplez.com

These sites, which collectively provide erotic films, photography, and live streaming, were accessed by investigators from Kansas without any age verification mechanism in place, according to the attorney general’s office.

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Retiree · 01-16-2025, 07:22 AM

Why would they have a company set up in the US in the first place?

fuzebox · 01-16-2025, 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Retiree

Why would they have a company set up in the US in the first place?

A lot of large companies are set up in the US. Why are you blaming the victim?

Retiree · 01-16-2025, 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by fuzebox

A lot of large companies are set up in the US. Why are you blaming the victim?

Yeah, and a lot of large companies are not. It makes no sense for an online company to be set up in the US, as it doesn't bring any advantages, only disadvantages.

CyberHustler · 01-16-2025, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by fuzebox

A lot of large companies are set up in the US. Why are you blaming the victim?

Expect a lot more of this as we continue to get what we voted for 🍿😎

Rochard · 01-16-2025, 10:07 AM

There needs to be one set of laws that govern the Internet. It cannot be country by country and state by state. That's just crazy.

I am also sick and tired of the cookies acceptance bullshit.

Cameltoepro · 01-16-2025, 10:22 AM

I have my site in the Netherlands, yet I upload from here in the USA. I'm wondering how all this BS will affect my business.

cordoba · 01-16-2025, 12:30 PM

So affiliates who have to comply with these laws will soon be required to age verify their visitor, then hope he clicks on to a sponsor site, which will also require to age verify him again, and then hope after all this he will purchase a membership?

Huggles · 01-16-2025, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by cordoba

So affiliates who have to comply with these laws will soon be required to age verify their visitor, then hope he clicks on to a sponsor site, which will also require to age verify him again, and then hope after all this he will purchase a membership?

All while living in a tent behind McDonald's...

I still don't think they're going to try and ban porn, porn is part of the bread and circuses that keeps the west going...

Mindi · 01-16-2025, 01:36 PM

i'm outside of dallas and i go to google images and see all the porn i want
why does metart and everyone else have to comply with this but not google?

blackmonsters · 01-16-2025, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Mindi

i'm outside of dallas and i go to google images and see all the porn i want
why does metart and everyone else have to comply with this but not google?

The 30% loophole : The only law applies to websites that have more than 30% porn.

So as long as google has 2 billion non-adult images, they can show 1 billion porn images.

Search "adult age verification 30% rule concerning content".

Brent 3dSexCash · 01-16-2025, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by blackmonsters

The 30% loophole : The only law applies to websites that have more than 30% porn.

So as long as google has 2 billion non-adult images, they can show 1 billion porn images.

Search "adult age verification 30% rule concerning content".

The "one-third rule" exists in the Texas law, but it is not universally applied in all states. For example, Louisiana and Tennessee have stricter laws that apply to any website containing adult content, without specifying a percentage threshold.

Retiree · 01-17-2025, 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard

There needs to be one set of laws that govern the Internet. It cannot be country by country and state by state. That's just crazy.

I am also sick and tired of the cookies acceptance bullshit.

And who will decide the rules? Which country? Why would other countries care about what a few countries decide upon?

You have commie blood, any Soviet relatives?

Publisher Bucks · 01-17-2025, 01:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Retiree

And who will decide the rules?

This seems like something ICAAN could implement quite easily if they so wanted, the have rules in place for how domain registrars already operate that we have to follow once we register a domain name, would seem easy enough for ICAAN to say 'oh if you have adult content, you gotta verify user IDs or lose the domain.

Not ideal by any means, but a much simpler and likely less problematic route than giving individual countries free reign of limiting free speech and artistic expression online.

Retiree · 01-17-2025, 01:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Publisher Bucks

Not ideal by any means, but a much simpler and likely less problematic route than giving individual countries free reign of limiting free speech and artistic expression online.

It is simpler? So if the US decide to censor free speech online, its just simpler for other countries to do the same? NO, its actually simpler for other countries to tell them GFY and do their own thing.

CyberHustler · 01-17-2025, 02:05 AM

*watches as foreigner rightards that helped convince American porners to vote rightard, now laughing at them and telling them they're stupid for having businesses in America in the first place after they got what they voted for*

🍿😎

Retiree · 01-17-2025, 02:22 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberHustler

*watches as foreigner rightards that helped convince American porners to vote rightard, now laughing at them and telling them they're stupid for having businesses in America in the first place after they got what they voted for*

🍿😎

Left is still in power and have been for the past 4 years, if you didn't notice.

And it was always a bad idea to have an online company set up in the US, no matter who was in power, there were always better solutions, cheaper and more free.

CyberHustler · 01-17-2025, 02:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Retiree

Left is still in power and have been for the past 4 years, if you didn't notice.

It's pretty evident according to this map of our 50 individual States:

https://action.freespeechcoalition.c...tate-avs-laws/

Ain't it weird how it seems to be halted right at the mason dixon line at the moment for some strange reason? 3 days left to see if we get to pwn da libz by getting the rest of what we voted for 😈

Everybody will be fine, American porn can just get exported to Europe or anywhere else anyway... because America First 🤯

😎🍿

cordoba · 01-17-2025, 02:37 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberHustler

*watches as foreigner rightards that helped convince American porners to vote rightard, now laughing at them and telling them they're stupid for having businesses in America in the first place after they got what they voted for*

🍿😎

This is happening everywhere, no matter which political party is in power.

Publisher Bucks · 01-17-2025, 03:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Retiree

It is simpler? So if the US decide to censor free speech online, its just simpler for other countries to do the same? NO, its actually simpler for other countries to tell them GFY and do their own thing.

What does the US Gov have to do with ICAAN? Absolutely nothing, they have not had any real control over the organization since around 2016 or so.

pornlaw · 01-17-2025, 11:10 AM

Its simple. If you do business in a country be advised to follow their laws.

Dont want to be subject to their laws dont do business in that country.

Its really not complicated.

Huggles · 01-17-2025, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by pornlaw

Its really not complicated.

blackmonsters · 01-17-2025, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by pornlaw

Its simple. If you do business in a country be advised to follow their laws.

Dont want to be subject to their laws dont do business in that country.

Its really not complicated.

True; but understanding the laws can be complicated or we wouldn't need lawyers.

cerulean · 01-17-2025, 02:47 PM

When I was investigating whether it would make sense to add age verification to LoginBlue, I spoke to half a dozen providers. The cheapest I could find (with scale of course,) was $1/verification. Most of my clients, and most sites, I imagine, would fall between $2-3 per verification for the services that actually hit every verification requirement.

Imagine having to verify everyone and pay for it out of pocket, and then hope those providers don't get hacked later on.

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Dont want to be subject to their laws dont do business in that country.

One of the banks my clients used advised blocking all states who require this. I suppose the problem comes from whether that person still signs up, if they access through a different state/country.

ruff · 01-17-2025, 05:54 PM

I thought the last time they tried to outlaw porn, it was shut down by the supreme court because it violated the first amendment. ie free speech. They can't shut it down because it violates my right to see it as an adult.

This is entirely a parents job to prevent their kids from seeing what's on the Internet. Hell, I've seen links to sites that show a man getting his head cut off, and another with a man laying on RR tracks cut in half. So this is ok but not if they had erections?

This shit will be thrown out of court.

Stupid christonazi's

The Porn Nerd · 01-17-2025, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by cerulean

When I was investigating whether it would make sense to add age verification to LoginBlue, I spoke to half a dozen providers. The cheapest I could find (with scale of course,) was $1/verification. Most of my clients, and most sites, I imagine, would fall between $2-3 per verification for the services that actually hit every verification requirement.

Imagine having to verify everyone and pay for it out of pocket, and then hope those providers don't get hacked later on.

Getting hacked I am not so worried about but having to pay even $1 per visitor when you have thousands of hits a day....no way. Impossible to operate this way. $2-3 per thousand is doable but not per visitor.

And if you pay $1 for a visitor and he joins do you charge him that extra dollar? What about the mass amount who do not signup?

No a solution needs to ezist on the payment processor side of things. Let CCBill or Epoch et al setup Age Verification for their clients to use. Leaving it to each individual website is insanity.

mrmister · 01-17-2025, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by ruff

I thought the last time they tried to outlaw porn, it was shut down by the supreme court because it violated the first amendment. ie free speech. They can't shut it down because it violates my right to see it as an adult.

This is entirely a parents job to prevent their kids from seeing what's on the Internet. Hell, I've seen links to sites that show a man getting his head cut off, and another with a man laying on RR tracks cut in half. So this is ok but not if they had erections?

This shit will be thrown out of court.

Stupid christonazi's

Will it be thrown out of court though? There's challenges going on at the moment and one of them failed did it not?

NSFWstory · 01-17-2025, 09:11 PM

When it says no age verification, does that mean no "I am 18+" like we're used to or no age verification as in ID verification laws?

MaDalton · 01-18-2025, 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd

Getting hacked I am not so worried about but having to pay even $1 per visitor when you have thousands of hits a day....no way. Impossible to operate this way. $2-3 per thousand is doable but not per visitor.

And if you pay $1 for a visitor and he joins do you charge him that extra dollar? What about the mass amount who do not signup?

No a solution needs to ezist on the payment processor side of things. Let CCBill or Epoch et al setup Age Verification for their clients to use. Leaving it to each individual website is insanity.

Here's an idea: Don't serve hardcore porn in the free area, only topless. Verify only people who sign up.

This is how Germans do it for 20 years.

Also has the advantage of less available free hc content and raises the chances people sign up.

Beaver1 · 01-18-2025, 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton

This is how Germans do it for 20 years.

Thanks to this approach by people like Huch and other lobbyists,
Germany has catapulted itself back into the technological Stone Age,
in which the country still finds itself today!

And the American Internet and half of all Nasdaq companies would follow Germany,
if porn were banned across the entire American region.

Porn and sex have always been one of the strongest money makers on the internet and a driving force for technologies, innovations, inventions and developments.

Greetings Beaver

Publisher Bucks · 01-18-2025, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Beaver1

a driving force for technologies, innovations, inventions and developments.

Maybe back in the day, this has not been the case in at least 15-20 years though.

I honestly can't think of *anything* in the past 15-20 years that was invented by the adult industry, other than how to decimate itself and kill profits across a wide range of business models.

fuzebox · 01-18-2025, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by cerulean

When I was investigating whether it would make sense to add age verification to LoginBlue, I spoke to half a dozen providers. The cheapest I could find (with scale of course,) was $1/verification. Most of my clients, and most sites, I imagine, would fall between $2-3 per verification for the services that actually hit every verification requirement.

Yoti is $0.15-0.30 depending on volume. Everyone I know is implementing it after payment.

The Porn Nerd · 01-18-2025, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by fuzebox

Yoti is $0.15-0.30 depending on volume. Everyone I know is implementing it after payment.

What do you mean after payment? Adding it as a separate charge?

Even at 15 cents per visitor it could add up if you have a lot of daily traffic.

fuzebox · 01-18-2025, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd

What do you mean after payment? Adding it as a separate charge?

Even at 15 cents per visitor it could add up if you have a lot of daily traffic.

After the credit card join has approved.

Tours beforehand would be SFW.

They only verify the paid users.

Publisher Bucks · 01-18-2025, 06:27 PM

Why is there a 'Verified by Visa' system if its not being implemented across all online payment platforms, same with MC, they have a similar system, they already have the CC users D.O.B... There's actually no need for any other system to verify a purchaser age.

The Porn Nerd · 01-18-2025, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by fuzebox

After the credit card join has approved.

Tours beforehand would be SFW.

They only verify the paid users.

Ahh ok I was thinking something similar. I am now getting my most profitable tours re-designed to be SFW. This will be good for YouTube and social media traffic as well.

Funny tho, if a CC has been approved then hasn't the visitor's age already been verified? By Visa, MC and the banks? Or are they assuming all those CC#'s are stolen from adults? Weird.

cerulean · 01-18-2025, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by fuzebox

After the credit card join has approved.

Tours beforehand would be SFW.

They only verify the paid users.

I think it's YMMV depending upon bank compliance. The bank that I talked to said no to this, and told us to just ban the states. I'll revisit it with the client and see if that has changed.

Personally, I think SFW tours + age verification after payment is way better. I could definitely integrate that into my login system.

MaDalton · 01-19-2025, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton

Here's an idea: Don't serve hardcore porn in the free area, only topless. Verify only people who sign up.

This is how Germans do it for 20 years.

Also has the advantage of less available free hc content and raises the chances people sign up.

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd

What do you mean after payment? Adding it as a separate charge?

Even at 15 cents per visitor it could add up if you have a lot of daily traffic.

Quote:

Originally Posted by fuzebox

After the credit card join has approved.

Tours beforehand would be SFW.

They only verify the paid users.

What I said...

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd

Ahh ok I was thinking something similar. I am now getting my most profitable tours re-designed to be SFW. This will be good for YouTube and social media traffic as well.

Funny tho, if a CC has been approved then hasn't the visitor's age already been verified? By Visa, MC and the banks? Or are they assuming all those CC#'s are stolen from adults? Weird.

Credit cards were never accepted for age verification

fuzebox · 01-19-2025, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd

Funny tho, if a CC has been approved then hasn't the visitor's age already been verified? By Visa, MC and the banks? Or are they assuming all those CC#'s are stolen from adults? Weird.

A valid card number was not an acceptable form of age verification in the 90s when "AVS" was crushing it, and still is not today. All minors with checking accounts get visa/mc debit cards.

Beaver1 · 01-20-2025, 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Publisher Bucks

Maybe back in the day, this has not been the case in at least 15-20 years though.

I honestly can't think of *anything* in the past 15-20 years that was invented by the adult industry, other than how to decimate itself and kill profits across a wide range of business models.

I was actually thinking more about the network infrastructure behind the scenes.

Imagine a standard tube site with 100,000 visitors per day offering 2K and 4K video streaming, and then consider that this single page is blowing through between 5 and 10 petabytes of traffic.

It's hard to imagine what excess capacity in terms of personnel and equipment at registrars, data centers, ISPs, power suppliers, in the end-consumer electronics sector and so on
would be freed up, if 60 or 70 percent of the entire network were to be shut down within a very short space of time!

Does the proposed AVS law change in the USA actually only affect pornographic content that is rated PG 18+?

Or should the youth protection laws also be applied to standard cinema films, games, music and content that is rated PG16 or PG18?
(horror, violence, nudity, drug use, colloquial language and so on)

Greetings Beaver

cordoba · 01-20-2025, 01:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaDalton

Here's an idea: Don't serve hardcore porn in the free area, only topless. Verify only people who sign up.

This is how Germans do it for 20 years.

Also has the advantage of less available free hc content and raises the chances people sign up.

Is this for sponsors or affiliates or both?

I imagine Germans have been able to do this for 20 years because they have countless affiliates outside of Germany sending them visitors primed by hardcore promotional material and ready to sign up.

But if both affiliates and sponsors nearly everywhere are going to have to operate under the same strict age verification laws, then it's not going to be so easy.

But yes, sponsors should be providing more softcore promotional material for affiliates as of now.

Beaver1 · 01-20-2025, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by cordoba

I imagine Germans have been able to do this for 20 years because they have countless affiliates outside of Germany sending them visitors primed by hardcore promotional material and ready to sign up.

There have been no active erotic partner programs in Germany for years.

I think MyDirtyHobby still exists but only because they moved away from Hamburg
as part of the Manwin deal.

INever · 01-26-2025, 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Mindi

i'm outside of dallas and i go to google images and see all the porn i want
why does metart and everyone else have to comply with this but not google?

beause google is the fucking CIA

pornlaw · 01-27-2025, 05:31 AM

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Originally Posted by blackmonsters

True; but understanding the laws can be complicated or we wouldn't need lawyers.

The premise is simple. The laws are complicated.

Its going to suck because now you arent going to need one lawyer, now you will need several. One for each country or at least one in the EU and one in the US for all of the AVS that are being implemented across the world.

And there arent too many EU lawyers I know that specialize in adult.

Kelli58 · 01-28-2025, 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Retiree

Yeah, and a lot of large companies are not. It makes no sense for an online company to be set up in the US, as it doesn't bring any advantages, only disadvantages.

Setting up your company outside of the US doesn't protect you from violating US laws. Just ask Pornhub.

If you do business in the US you are subject to US law no matter where you place your company headquarters.

Retiree · 01-29-2025, 02:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Kelli58

Setting up your company outside of the US doesn't protect you from violating US laws. Just ask Pornhub.

If you do business in the US you are subject to US law no matter where you place your company headquarters.

Nah, not really. Plenty of countries that couldn't care less about US laws and offer better business enviroment and lower taxes than the US.

Pornhub is in Canada, thats basically the same as the US.

pornlaw · 01-29-2025, 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Retiree

Nah, not really. Plenty of countries that couldn't care less about US laws and offer better business enviroment and lower taxes than the US.

Pornhub is in Canada, thats basically the same as the US.

You can still be sued in the US under the Hague Convention.

And if you use Visa or Mastercard for processing, your money moves through the US which means its subject to liens and attachment.

01-16-2025, 06:18 AM	#1
Kelli58 Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 2,065	MetArt Gets nailed for Age Verification Violations Breaking News 🚨 Kansas Files Lawsuit Against Metart Over Age Verification Law Violations. The lawsuit alleges that SARJ LLC, a Seattle-based technology company, has failed to implement commercially reasonable age verification measures across its platforms. They are seeking $10,000 per violation, per day. The lawsuit alleges that SARJ LLC, a Seattle-based technology company, has failed to implement commercially reasonable age verification measures across its platforms, which include: metartnetwork.com metart.com metartx.com sexart.com vivthomas.com thelifeerotic.com eroticbeauty.com lovehairy.com domai.com goddessnudes.com rylskyart.com stunning18.com straplez.com These sites, which collectively provide erotic films, photography, and live streaming, were accessed by investigators from Kansas without any age verification mechanism in place, according to the attorney general’s office. Read the full story at Fleshbot https://fleshbot.com/biz/post/kansas...aw-violations/ __________________ Kandy AI 🍭🍬 Take a bite out of censorship 🍭🍬 We believe in empowering adults to use AI as they see fit. 👉 Get AI to write your scene descriptions for you 👈

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