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Old Yesterday, 01:04 PM   #1
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Paxum ridiculous demands for AWE payments

Hi guys.

I am not doing webmaster work for more then 5 years, have only a several left sites with whitelabels or link feeders, getting only a few payments to paxum in a year from AWE and somehow, Paxum wants me to prove me my whole AWE account, WTF ?

Thats whats Paxum( i have paxum since the first days of its existence) is asking me, in order to enable full functioning of my account.

"-An example of an active affiliate marketing campaign, including details about the product or service you are promoting.
-Information regarding performance metrics, such as the number of clicks, conversions, traffic sources, and any other relevant statistics available on the platform.
-Additionally, if available, please include screenshots of any recent payment history or commission reports to support your declared source of income."


Is this normal nowadays? All that shit to prove around 1k USD a year payments, lol. I have a suspicion I am talking to AI agent, who has no clue at all.
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Old Yesterday, 01:27 PM   #2
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Proving source of income is a perfectly normal banking request in 2025. A screenshot of your stats is usually more than enough.
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Old Yesterday, 01:39 PM   #3
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Proving source of income is a perfectly normal banking request in 2025. A screenshot of your stats is usually more than enough.
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I sent them the screenshot of the payouts, however it wasnt enough.
I got probably around 100k USD since 2012 from AWE to this paxum account, but in 2025 I am "suspicous" for recieving 1k USD a year, lol.

Since when, one needs to prove to the payment company "performance metrics, such as the number of clicks, conversions, traffic sources, and any other relevant statistics available on the platform" with affiliate program ? Thats sound really ridiculous..
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I sent them the screenshot of the payouts, however it wasnt enough.
I got probably around 100k USD since 2012 from AWE to this paxum account, but in 2025 I am "suspicous" for recieving 1k USD a year, lol.

Since when, one needs to prove to the payment company "performance metrics, such as the number of clicks, conversions, traffic sources, and any other relevant statistics available on the platform" with affiliate program ? Thats sound really ridiculous..
It happened because no one really pushed back on banking regulations (besides milquetoast replies like "well what am i supposed to do???") and no one really paid attention until it personally affected them.

Hope this helps!
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Another Paxum success story.

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Old Yesterday, 11:50 PM   #7
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These are standard KYC regulations. If Paxum didn’t comply with them, they would risk losing their license.

Just send them the details that they ask for.
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Old Today, 02:18 AM   #8
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They have to do all this to comply with regulations.

In my experience the Paxum questions are official looking and scary, but just answer them truthfully and they'll be fine with it. Answer everything but keep it fairly simple, they just need some facts and details, not your whole marketing strategy.
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These are standard KYC regulations. If Paxum didn’t comply with them, they would risk losing their license.

Just send them the details that they ask for.
Information regarding performance metrics, such as the number of clicks, conversions, traffic sources, and any other relevant statistics available on the platform.

That's not standard KYC regulations , they have no business asking for that.
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Information regarding performance metrics, such as the number of clicks, conversions, traffic sources, and any other relevant statistics available on the platform.

That's not standard KYC regulations , they have no business asking for that.
I agree that this seems extreme, and I hate this as much as anyone else, but those are AML rules which are much stricter for clients in high-risk industries like us.

Amongst other things, the Banks want to see a clear, auditable trail from the original source to the business to the account. traffic -> conversion -> transfer
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I agree that this seems extreme, and I hate this as much as anyone else, but those are AML rules which are much stricter for clients in high-risk industries like us.

Amongst other things, the Banks want to see a clear, auditable trail from the original source to the business to the account. traffic -> conversion -> transfer
Oh yes I know, it's either giving them what they want or saying bye to your payment.
Just saying, strictly speaking the actual conversions/sales/identity is part of awe's compliance.

The affiliates should only have to give info about awe and awe's payments to them.

But I'm well aware that in reality things are (made) more complicated.
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I switched to crypto payments on AWE...fuck Paxum.
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They have to do all this to comply with regulations.
People shouldn't comply with dumb regulations, or there will be more regulation and even dumber ones.
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That's an awfully whole lotta information to be giving to this company that has a weird monopolistic stranglehold on this industry and is co-owned by a Russian who was under investigation for insider trading and money laundering allegedly for Trump.

Especially considering the history of these types of companies here and the fact that the dude this money was allegedly being laundered for also is way over halfway done implementing his Project 2025... which wants to turn you guys into sex offenders to pwn da libz.

Of course these investigations and such have vanished now that the dude being investigated is President and it's probably all just a bunch of weird coincidendences and nothingburgers... of course. My conspiracy hat here may be triggered by being an ePass survivor and living in America where we get to witness Project 2025 proudly in action, especially with all these new laws targeting porn, while simultaneously being told it doesn't exist. But if I were still a porner I wouldn't want to be giving Paxum any of my personal/business insider info... just incase.

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That's an awfully whole lotta information to be giving to this company that has a weird monopolistic stranglehold on this industry and is co-owned by a Russian who was under investigation for insider trading and money laundering allegedly for Trump.

Especially considering the history of these types of companies here and the fact that the dude this money was allegedly being laundered for also is way over halfway done implementing his Project 2025... which wants to turn you guys into sex offenders to pwn da libz.

Of course these investigations and such have vanished now that the dude being investigated is President and it's probably all just a bunch of weird coincidendences and nothingburgers... of course. My conspiracy hat here may be triggered by being an ePass survivor and living in America where we get to witness Project 2025 proudly in action, especially with all these new laws targeting porn, while simultaneously being told it doesn't exist. But if I were still a porner I wouldn't want to be giving Paxum any of my personal/business insider info... just incase.

Exactly.

And honestly: If AWE is fine with sending the money, I don't see any reason at all why Paxum should demand proof past the account holder keeping his address and identification up tp date.
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Old Today, 03:34 PM   #17
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That's an awfully whole lotta information to be giving to this company that has a weird monopolistic stranglehold on this industry and is co-owned by a Russian who was under investigation for insider trading and money laundering allegedly for Trump.
Oh, now I understand. I was sending most of my Affilate Paxum income (1-2k EUR a year) to the UKR army charity guys via Paypal, but its visible on Paxum statements :-(.
Of course, there are some rules to follow, but in my case they are getting applied a bit harder then normal... What a surprise, lol. Anyway, thanks for your reply.
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