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SetTheWorldonFire · 07-11-2003, 09:39 PM

shaving will stay the same

twistyneck · 07-11-2003, 09:40 PM

No doubt. Dump your sponsors and run your own shit so you won't have to worry about it.

mach · 07-11-2003, 09:42 PM

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Originally posted by twistyneck
No doubt. Dump your sponsors and run your own shit so you won't have to worry about it.

yep

BlackCrayon · 07-11-2003, 09:43 PM

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Originally posted by twistyneck
No doubt. Dump your sponsors and run your own shit so you won't have to worry about it.

if only everyone could afford to...

twistyneck · 07-11-2003, 09:47 PM

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Originally posted by BlackCrayon

if only everyone could afford to...

You don't have to spend a ton of money to do it. You just have to have the will to do it.

mach · 07-11-2003, 09:48 PM

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Originally posted by twistyneck

You don't have to spend a ton of money to do it. You just have to have the will to do it.

not to mention 'the force'

tootie · 07-11-2003, 09:49 PM

I have the will (very strong will) but I STILL need some money to do it. I'm working on it, but it's running me broke trying to get enough content to retain members.

High Quality · 07-11-2003, 09:50 PM

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Originally posted by twistyneck

You don't have to spend a ton of money to do it. You just have to have the will to do it.

Fuckin-A

twistyneck · 07-11-2003, 09:57 PM

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Originally posted by tootie
I have the will (very strong will) but I STILL need some money to do it. I'm working on it, but it's running me broke trying to get enough content to retain members.

There are tons of content guys out there that will cut you deals on semi-exclusive stuff. Just ask them. While you're at it, refine your niche and fucking own it. For example, if you are doing a teen site, fuck that, do blonde teens in green panties or whatever and believe me, when the freaks looking for blonde teens in green panties find your site, they will sign up. See what I'm getting at?

the_mail_man · 07-11-2003, 09:58 PM

Yep, first thing I thought of when I heard this new Visa shit. What makes me laugh is you will see webmasters get flaming mad when they have to delete a spam message or two, but most never mention the shave problem. That's taking money they earned right out of there pockets and they are so non-shalaunt about it.

I think most webmasters actually think it's a myth or something. Who the fuck knows...

mach · 07-11-2003, 10:01 PM

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Originally posted by the_mail_man
Yep, first thing I thought of when I heard this new Visa shit. What makes me laugh is you will see webmasters get flaming mad when they have to delete a spam message or two, but most never mention the shave problem. That's taking money they earned right out of there pockets and they are so non-shalaunt about it.

I think most webmasters actually think it's a myth or something. Who the fuck knows...

oh i know its happening allright wtf can one do about it though?

besides opening your own operation?

twistyneck · 07-11-2003, 10:02 PM

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Originally posted by mach

oh i know its happening allright wtf can one do about it though?

besides opening your own operation?

Keep switching sponsors until you find one that doesn't shave.

mach · 07-11-2003, 10:06 PM

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Originally posted by twistyneck

Keep switching sponsors until you find one that doesn't shave.

bhutocracy · 07-11-2003, 10:08 PM

shaving doesn't mean shit. its what you take home that counts and it's the only thing you can count on.

mach · 07-11-2003, 10:10 PM

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Originally posted by bhutocracy
shaving doesn't mean shit. its what you take home that counts and it's the only thing you can count on.

you sir are an idiot

jimmyf · 07-11-2003, 10:10 PM

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Originally posted by twistyneck
No doubt. Dump your sponsors and run your own shit so you won't have to worry about it.

I'm thinking

the_mail_man · 07-11-2003, 10:10 PM

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Originally posted by bhutocracy
shaving doesn't mean shit. its what you take home that counts and it's the only thing you can count on.

i can't even count how many ways that statment is fucked up

bhutocracy · 07-11-2003, 10:12 PM

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Originally posted by mach

you sir are an idiot

you sir are a nonce.. i think it's infallably been proven that webmasters don't care if they're being shaved if the persign up amount is high enough.

jimmyf · 07-11-2003, 10:12 PM

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Originally posted by twistyneck

Keep switching sponsors until you find one that doesn't shave.

More thinking

rastakit · 07-11-2003, 10:14 PM

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Originally posted by mach

oh i know its happening allright wtf can one do about it though?

besides opening your own operation?

Or send your traffic through our audited re-direct program called ClickTruth...

We've signed a number of major Sponsors up...

The deal? They pay us a flat upfront fee to audit their program, they plug in our API so we get postback data directly from their processor before they can fuck with it, and they agree to let us test join them at random...

Nice for the webmaster, bad for shaving programs...

Email us if you want to give it a try it's free to use.

The Posse will Change Everything.

[email protected]

bhutocracy · 07-11-2003, 10:14 PM

people are easily manipulated, show them $50 a signup and they'll flock there - even if they shave 50% they'll get more webmasters than a $25 that doesn't shave.

mach · 07-11-2003, 10:14 PM

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Originally posted by bhutocracy

you sir are a nonce.. i think it's infallably been proven that webmasters don't care if they're being shaved if the persign up amount is high enough.

whats new? The average webmaster is an idiot

and your one of them.

jimmyf · 07-11-2003, 10:15 PM

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Originally posted by bhutocracy

you sir are a nonce.. i think it's infallably been proven that webmasters don't care if they're being shaved if the persign up amount is high enough.

I sure the fuck care and only an nit wit wouldn't, which there are a lot off on this board and you know it.

bhutocracy · 07-11-2003, 10:15 PM

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Originally posted by mach

whats new? The average webmaster is an idiot

and your one of them.

whatever.

Brown Bear · 07-11-2003, 10:17 PM

The future is revshare

bhutocracy · 07-11-2003, 10:17 PM

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Originally posted by jimmyf
I sure the fuck care and only an nit wit wouldn't, which there are a lot off on this board and you know it.

of course, but you've got to assume that every program shaves, all you can do is look at your paychecks, whoever gives you the most amount wins, which was pretty much my first statement.

BlackCrayon · 07-11-2003, 10:17 PM

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Originally posted by twistyneck

You don't have to spend a ton of money to do it. You just have to have the will to do it.

i agree that will plays a large roll but wouldn't it cost say around 5-10k? depending on what you set up exactly... and since im canadian, can i even set one up?

bhutocracy · 07-11-2003, 10:19 PM

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Originally posted by Brown Bear
The future is revshare

yeah but you can still shave revshare signups and say "look at me we've got 99% revshare"

jimmyf · 07-11-2003, 10:21 PM

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Originally posted by rastakit

Or send your traffic through our audited re-direct program called ClickTruth...

We've signed a number of major Sponsors up...

The deal? They pay us a flat upfront fee to audit their program, they plug in our API so we get postback data directly from their processor before they can fuck with it, and they agree to let us test join them at random...

Nice for the webmaster, bad for shaving programs...

Email us if you want to give it a try it's free to use.

The Posse will Change Everything.

[email protected]

I have never heard of your program. Would you please post a list of sponsors that use your program. If true this looks sweet.
Only porn site I see is Flashcash, but I've never seen on there site anything about your program though that I can recall.

rastakit · 07-11-2003, 10:29 PM

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Originally posted by jimmyf
I have never heard of your program. Would you please post a list of sponsors that use your program. If true this looks sweet.

Yes..Ironically we were going to formally launch at Miami...so much for marketing plans, eh?

We currently audit Flashcash and have approval to audit and are integrating with : TopBucks, Pornkings and Silvercash...We are also bringing more online as fast as possible. We do want to make sure everything is airtight with each before moving on to the next...

That said, in this environment, if you have a Sponsor you really want to work with...let me know (or have them contact us about our service), and we'll plug them in as soon as possible. We believe it will make everyone sleep a little better....

Edge

the_mail_man · 07-11-2003, 10:33 PM

congrats Flashcash, Pornkings, and Silver Cash for stepping up to the plate and letting you examine them

rastakit · 07-11-2003, 10:36 PM

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Originally posted by the_mail_man
congrats Flashcash, Pornkings, and Silver Cash for stepping up to the plate and letting you examine them

Yes...on the one hand they are brave, on the other hand, they see the writing on the wall and are good businessmen...either way...it'a a win/win.

mach · 07-11-2003, 10:39 PM

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Originally posted by rastakit

Or send your traffic through our audited re-direct program called ClickTruth...

We've signed a number of major Sponsors up...

The deal? They pay us a flat upfront fee to audit their program, they plug in our API so we get postback data directly from their processor before they can fuck with it, and they agree to let us test join them at random...

Nice for the webmaster, bad for shaving programs...

Email us if you want to give it a try it's free to use.

The Posse will Change Everything.

[email protected]

fantasyman · 07-11-2003, 10:48 PM

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Originally posted by rastakit

Yes..Ironically we were going to formally launch at Miami...so much for marketing plans, eh?

We currently audit Flashcash and have approval to audit and are integrating with : TopBucks, Pornkings and Silvercash...We are also bringing more online as fast as possible. We do want to make sure everything is airtight with each before moving on to the next...

That said, in this environment, if you have a Sponsor you really want to work with...let me know (or have them contact us about our service), and we'll plug them in as soon as possible. We believe it will make everyone sleep a little better....

Edge

CECash would be interested in being audited also, please email details to fabian at cecash dot com

bhutocracy · 07-11-2003, 10:49 PM

what exactly does auditing entail?

rastakit · 07-11-2003, 10:53 PM

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Originally posted by fantasyman

CECash would be interested in being audited also, please email details to fabian at cecash dot com

On it's way....

E

bhutocracy · 07-11-2003, 10:55 PM

how would you stop someone taking out a shave script for the auditing duration and putting it back in when you're finished?

=^..^= · 07-11-2003, 10:56 PM

I know of sponsors who are shaving 80%
how the fuck can the justify turning it up any more than that??!!!!

mach · 07-11-2003, 10:58 PM

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Originally posted by =^..^=
I know of sponsors who are shaving 80%
how the fuck can the justify turning it up any more than that??!!!!

i wouldnt put it past them

soon it will be 100% then what will they do?

start charging the webmaster 30 dollars per sign?

rastakit · 07-11-2003, 11:06 PM

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Originally posted by bhutocracy
how would you stop someone taking out a shave script for the auditing duration and putting it back in when you're finished?

Well, I don't want to get into too much detail...because, as the Sponsors are fond of saying, we don't want to "educate" anyone:-)...

But, suffice to say, our audits are random and use multiple traffic sources from web masters. In fact, the more of you who sign-up, the more difficult it will be for Sponsors to mess with the system...which would be ideal (for all involved)....

Send me an email and let's chat...

edge at pornposse

bhutocracy · 07-11-2003, 11:07 PM

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Originally posted by =^..^=
I know of sponsors who are shaving 80%
how the fuck can the justify turning it up any more than that??!!!!

I bet they're still getting heaps of affiliates attracted to the high sign ups like flies to shit.

bhutocracy · 07-11-2003, 11:11 PM

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Originally posted by rastakit

Well, I don't want to get into too much detail...because, as the Sponsors are fond of saying, we don't want to "educate" anyone:-)...

yeah good idea

how much does an audit cost?

the_mail_man · 07-11-2003, 11:12 PM

my best sponser hands down pays 25.00/join and 15.00/rebill. What does that tell you

bhutocracy · 07-11-2003, 11:14 PM

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Originally posted by the_mail_man
my best sponser hands down pays 25.00/join and 15.00/rebill. What does that tell you

good to see.

rastakit · 07-11-2003, 11:19 PM

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Originally posted by bhutocracy

yeah good idea how much does an audit cost?

We charge Sponsors a flat fee to get set-up and a smaller flat fee to maintain the system...

If you run a program and would like to chat, send me a note. To push traffic through the system is free...if you want us to specifically audit YOUR traffic we can do that as well...but we should chat offline for that...:-)

TheProfessor · 07-11-2003, 11:19 PM

We never shave and never will. We
hired an external company to do
an audit of our affiliate program several
years ago as part of due diligence. It
would be great to get a 3rd party company
to do this for adult sites.

rastakit · 07-11-2003, 11:22 PM

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Originally posted by TheProfessor
We never shave and never will.

Send me an email or hit me on ICQ 173121828 and let's make that statement official....

Edge

berg.the.red · 07-12-2003, 01:34 AM

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Originally posted by the_mail_man
congrats Flashcash, Pornkings, and Silver Cash for stepping up to the plate and letting you examine them

... is that like that "turn your head and cough" thing ?

Pointless · 07-12-2003, 01:50 AM

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Originally posted by rastakit

Or send your traffic through our audited re-direct program called ClickTruth...

We've signed a number of major Sponsors up...

The deal? They pay us a flat upfront fee to audit their program, they plug in our API so we get postback data directly from their processor before they can fuck with it, and they agree to let us test join them at random...

Nice for the webmaster, bad for shaving programs...

Email us if you want to give it a try it's free to use.

The Posse will Change Everything.

[email protected]

good to see

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mach Confirmed User Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 281	shave percentage likely to increase yay

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SetTheWorldonFire Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: California Posts: 7,444	shaving will stay the same __________________ www.STWOFDesign.com hit me up on icq 154206276 or Skype: JaimeGizzle

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the_mail_man Confirmed User Join Date: May 2003 Location: Not a fuckin Russian Posts: 176	Yep, first thing I thought of when I heard this new Visa shit. What makes me laugh is you will see webmasters get flaming mad when they have to delete a spam message or two, but most never mention the shave problem. That's taking money they earned right out of there pockets and they are so non-shalaunt about it. I think most webmasters actually think it's a myth or something. Who the fuck knows... __________________ 100% System Cracker<br>Fresh lists from 500.00-3500.00 ICQ ME<br>ICQ:327501579

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the_mail_man Confirmed User Join Date: May 2003 Location: Not a fuckin Russian Posts: 176	congrats Flashcash, Pornkings, and Silver Cash for stepping up to the plate and letting you examine them __________________ 100% System Cracker<br>Fresh lists from 500.00-3500.00 ICQ ME<br>ICQ:327501579

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twistyneck So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hanging by the neck until dead. Posts: 4,660	No doubt. Dump your sponsors and run your own shit so you won't have to worry about it.

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bhutocracy Not making A Comeback Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 10,218	shaving doesn't mean shit. its what you take home that counts and it's the only thing you can count on.

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bhutocracy Not making A Comeback Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 10,218	people are easily manipulated, show them $50 a signup and they'll flock there - even if they shave 50% they'll get more webmasters than a $25 that doesn't shave.

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bhutocracy Not making A Comeback Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 10,218	what exactly does auditing entail?

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bhutocracy Not making A Comeback Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 10,218	how would you stop someone taking out a shave script for the auditing duration and putting it back in when you're finished?

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