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ldinternet · 09-05-2003, 07:45 PM

What an AMAZING piece of software. I have adjusted the settings to my liking, taking in mpeg1, adjusting, outputting mpeg1, and I couldn't be happier with the result.

HOWEVER... it is painfully slow. 8 minutes of work per 1 minute of video.

Is this a problem with my PC or something? Is it SUPPOSED to be this slow?! There just aren't enough hours in the day to process 80 minutes of video. Could there be any way to speed up?

Juicy D. Links · 09-05-2003, 07:47 PM

what are your pc specs?

ldinternet · 09-05-2003, 07:54 PM

I am using this on:

P4 1800
256 RAM
and about 40GB of free space on the drive.

Low specs for video editing, but it doesn't grind to a halt. I think the slowness is more software related than hardware related. I'm still able to listen to mp3s, read gfy, check email with this this machine while it's encoding. It goes just as fast whether I leave it alone or do something else on the machine. But I will try it on a laptop with higher specs tomorrow, and see if it goes any faster.

In the meantime, could there be any settings within the software to adjust that will make this thing run faster?

EscortBiz · 09-05-2003, 07:56 PM

up the ram to 1gig

BV · 09-05-2003, 07:57 PM

Look in your "Windows Task Manager" and see how much resources that program is using while it's rendering.

Juicy D. Links · 09-05-2003, 07:58 PM

256 RAM is the culprit bump it up to a gig or more

Strife · 09-05-2003, 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by EscortBiz
up the ram to 1gig

yup...you need about a gig of ram for video editing

SixNine · 09-05-2003, 09:17 PM

1G of ram will make a big difference. Cleaner runs just about all night every night in our studio crunching SoulCash hosted gallery clips and member videos into multiple formats at once.

If you ever want to shoot the shit about settings give me a holler our number is at the bottom of soulcash.com.

SixNine

Ketadream · 09-05-2003, 09:38 PM

Cleaner GOOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!

More ram man...256 is silly stupid with the cost of ram these days.
Matter of fact running a system like that your just punching yourself in the cock by having 256 in it.

Centurion · 09-06-2003, 01:17 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by ldinternet
HOWEVER... it is painfully slow. 8 minutes of work per 1 minute of video.

Is this a problem with my PC or something? Is it SUPPOSED to be this slow?! There just aren't enough hours in the day to process 80 minutes of video. Could there be any way to speed up?

While having a good deal of memory is important in video editing, sometimes it doesn't matter how much mem you have, if the software you are using is designed for ultra compression.

Cleaner has always been a sloooow creature. But that is because it has about the highest compression rate and encoding design on the market. The smaller you want your file to be, the longer it will take to encode it.

Vegas (aka Vegas Video) puts out as good a quality encoding job as cleaner does at a fraction of the amount of time imo. When I saw how much faster Vegas was, I dropped Cleaner like a hot potato simply because of the time factor. If you're in no hurry, then cleaner is fine..but when you are on a time limit/budget, then cleaner ain't really the best choice for video editing.

quiet · 09-06-2003, 01:20 AM

cleaner kicks ass, and yes it is a beast in terms of slowness. i have a dual processor G4 that spends almost all of it's time encoding video...

bugout · 09-06-2003, 01:22 AM

I have a dell p4 3.06 with a gig a ram and cleaner is still fucking slow.

Vegas kicks its ass.. half time time and just as good.

fletcher · 09-06-2003, 01:31 AM

Yep, get more RAM...and I think can also specify the thread priority in one of the menus. The default on focus I think is the highest, but when it's not focused it just normal. Set it to the highest possible and let it run.

bigdog · 09-06-2003, 04:36 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by SixNine
1G of ram will make a big difference. Cleaner runs just about all night every night in our studio crunching SoulCash hosted gallery clips and member videos into multiple formats at once.

If you ever want to shoot the shit about settings give me a holler our number is at the bottom of soulcash.com.

SixNine

are you guys useing cleaner on a mac or a pc?

ldinternet · 09-06-2003, 08:50 AM

thanks for the feedback.

Muff · 09-06-2003, 09:07 AM

Good hard drives will make a big difference aswell.

The software can be super fast but you can only write to the drive as fast the drive can go.

Doesn't really affect encoding much but when you're cutting clips it will.

bigdog · 09-06-2003, 09:16 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Muff
Good hard drives will make a big difference aswell.

The software can be super fast but you can only write to the drive as fast the drive can go.

Doesn't really affect encoding much but when you're cutting clips it will.

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Aza · 09-06-2003, 09:52 AM

you should use a mac for this

Muff · 09-06-2003, 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by bigdog

Nce program you have wth blingcash. $25 per signup is a good addition to the 50/50 stuff. I wish more smaller sponsors would at least pay $25 a trial

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Sassyass · 09-06-2003, 10:23 AM

RAM does not do much for video rendering....
Don't listen to them.
You need AT LEAST 1gig period.
What makes the difference is your processor. Go get yourself an old dual proc Netserver p3 500 ?600 and is will work 3 times as fast as a 3ghz single proc computers. (There is a reason that big rendering houses use MULTIPLE servers sporting multiple procs for their farms.)
Cleaner is slow. The new version is a bit faster. Pro coder is better.
Comparing Vegas video to cleaner is comparing apples to oranges.

loverboy · 09-06-2003, 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sassyass
RAM does not do much for video rendering....
Don't listen to them.
You need AT LEAST 1gig period.
What makes the difference is your processor. Go get yourself an old dual proc Netserver p3 500 ?600 and is will work 3 times as fast as a 3ghz single proc computers. (There is a reason that big rendering houses use MULTIPLE servers sporting multiple procs for their farms.)
Cleaner is slow. The new version is a bit faster. Pro coder is better.
Comparing Vegas video to cleaner is comparing apples to oranges.

well said.. try using a Dual 2600 AMD processor for your video encoding.

i know a number of Webmasters using such powerful machines to do some video editing.

bigdog · 09-06-2003, 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Aza
you should use a mac for this

yes a mac what else would one use lol

ldinternet · 09-06-2003, 08:03 PM

I've had it working on a file for almost 11 hours, and with over 8 hours remaining... this is ultra slow, although I did opt for quality over speed.

Waiting patiently.

<img src="http://www.hotlinkpro.com/cleaner.gif">

bigdog · 09-06-2003, 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ldinternet
I've had it working on a file for almost 11 hours, and with over 8 hours remaining... this is ultra slow, although I did opt for quality over speed.

Waiting patiently.

<img src="http://www.hotlinkpro.com/cleaner.gif">

maybe give procoder a try

ldinternet · 09-06-2003, 08:26 PM

I will check it out...

bigdog · 09-07-2003, 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ldinternet
I will check it out...

just find out that software requires a dongle so you can't use it on two pc'sif you wanted to

Keev · 09-07-2003, 03:23 PM

You definitely need a beast of a machine and plenty of time on your hands and patience but its well worth it.

quiet · 09-07-2003, 04:51 PM

get a dual processor machine. if you're doing serious amounts of encoding, it's the only way to go.

bigdog · 09-07-2003, 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by quiet
get a dual processor machine. if you're doing serious amounts of encoding, it's the only way to go.

you mean he needs to get a dual mac setup hehe

Samantha_Luvcox · 09-07-2003, 08:09 PM

Have cleaner 4, 5.1 and the newest version. Running on a dual AMD 2600 machine with a gig of ram encoding DV AVI to WMF Works at real time, Mpeg 1 takes 4 minutes per minute of video. Mpg2 to wmf 30 seconds per 1 minute of video or double time. All seem to be about the same speed for the most part. We don;t do a ton of encoding as we still are working out all the settings etc, Need to find a good book on how to take video from one format to the next while getting the best results/speed.

AaronM · 09-07-2003, 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ldinternet
What an AMAZING piece of software. I have adjusted the settings to my liking, taking in mpeg1, adjusting, outputting mpeg1, and I couldn't be happier with the result.

HOWEVER... it is painfully slow. 8 minutes of work per 1 minute of video.

Is this a problem with my PC or something? Is it SUPPOSED to be this slow?! There just aren't enough hours in the day to process 80 minutes of video. Could there be any way to speed up?

I run Cleaner on a P4 2.8 with a gig of Ram. My 30 minute videos take 6.5 hours or so to encode to 3 different formats.

Just set the batch and go to bed.

AaronM · 09-07-2003, 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by quiet
get a dual processor machine. if you're doing serious amounts of encoding, it's the only way to go.

I dropped a dual proc PIII to go to this new machine. This one works better. This machine was specifically re-designed from the ground up for video editing though. 500 Gigs or hard drive space. WD Special Edition drives...bla bla bla....

09-05-2003, 07:45 PM	#1
ldinternet Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 8,245	Just picked up a copy of Cleaner. Who else uses this?... What an AMAZING piece of software. I have adjusted the settings to my liking, taking in mpeg1, adjusting, outputting mpeg1, and I couldn't be happier with the result. HOWEVER... it is painfully slow. 8 minutes of work per 1 minute of video. Is this a problem with my PC or something? Is it SUPPOSED to be this slow?! There just aren't enough hours in the day to process 80 minutes of video. Could there be any way to speed up?

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09-05-2003, 09:38 PM	#9
Ketadream Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Austin Posts: 1,373	Cleaner GOOD!!!!!!!!!!!!! More ram man...256 is silly stupid with the cost of ram these days. Matter of fact running a system like that your just punching yourself in the cock by having 256 in it. __________________ SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.

09-06-2003, 01:20 AM	#11
quiet we'll miss you our friend. RIP Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Fernie, BC Posts: 25,115	cleaner kicks ass, and yes it is a beast in terms of slowness. i have a dual processor G4 that spends almost all of it's time encoding video... __________________ we'll miss you our friend. RIP

09-06-2003, 01:31 AM	#13
fletcher Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 698	Yep, get more RAM...and I think can also specify the thread priority in one of the menus. The default on focus I think is the highest, but when it's not focused it just normal. Set it to the highest possible and let it run. __________________   [email protected] ICQ: 6411138

09-05-2003, 07:47 PM	#2
Juicy D. Links So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: N.Y. -Long Island -- Posts: 122,992	what are your pc specs?

09-05-2003, 07:54 PM	#3
ldinternet Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 8,245	I am using this on: P4 1800 256 RAM and about 40GB of free space on the drive. Low specs for video editing, but it doesn't grind to a halt. I think the slowness is more software related than hardware related. I'm still able to listen to mp3s, read gfy, check email with this this machine while it's encoding. It goes just as fast whether I leave it alone or do something else on the machine. But I will try it on a laptop with higher specs tomorrow, and see if it goes any faster. In the meantime, could there be any settings within the software to adjust that will make this thing run faster?

09-05-2003, 07:57 PM	#5
BV wtf Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Bikini State, FL USA Posts: 10,914	Look in your "Windows Task Manager" and see how much resources that program is using while it's rendering.

09-05-2003, 07:58 PM	#6
Juicy D. Links So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: N.Y. -Long Island -- Posts: 122,992	256 RAM is the culprit bump it up to a gig or more

09-05-2003, 09:17 PM	#8
SixNine Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: The Sea Town Posts: 1,357	1G of ram will make a big difference. Cleaner runs just about all night every night in our studio crunching SoulCash hosted gallery clips and member videos into multiple formats at once. If you ever want to shoot the shit about settings give me a holler our number is at the bottom of soulcash.com. SixNine

09-06-2003, 01:22 AM	#12
bugout Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: NY-Rio de Janeiro Posts: 540	I have a dell p4 3.06 with a gig a ram and cleaner is still fucking slow. Vegas kicks its ass.. half time time and just as good.

09-06-2003, 08:50 AM	#15
ldinternet Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 8,245	thanks for the feedback.

09-06-2003, 09:07 AM	#16
Muff Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Toronto Posts: 1,782	Good hard drives will make a big difference aswell. The software can be super fast but you can only write to the drive as fast the drive can go. Doesn't really affect encoding much but when you're cutting clips it will.

09-06-2003, 09:52 AM	#18
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09-06-2003, 10:23 AM	#20
Sassyass Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 1,101	RAM does not do much for video rendering.... Don't listen to them. You need AT LEAST 1gig period. What makes the difference is your processor. Go get yourself an old dual proc Netserver p3 500 ?600 and is will work 3 times as fast as a 3ghz single proc computers. (There is a reason that big rendering houses use MULTIPLE servers sporting multiple procs for their farms.) Cleaner is slow. The new version is a bit faster. Pro coder is better. Comparing Vegas video to cleaner is comparing apples to oranges.

09-06-2003, 08:03 PM	#23
ldinternet Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 8,245	I've had it working on a file for almost 11 hours, and with over 8 hours remaining... this is ultra slow, although I did opt for quality over speed. Waiting patiently. <img src="http://www.hotlinkpro.com/cleaner.gif">

09-06-2003, 08:26 PM	#25
ldinternet Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 8,245	I will check it out...

09-07-2003, 03:23 PM	#27
Keev Confirmed User Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 5,335	You definitely need a beast of a machine and plenty of time on your hands and patience but its well worth it.

09-07-2003, 04:51 PM	#28
quiet we'll miss you our friend. RIP Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Fernie, BC Posts: 25,115	get a dual processor machine. if you're doing serious amounts of encoding, it's the only way to go. __________________ we'll miss you our friend. RIP

09-07-2003, 08:09 PM	#30
Samantha_Luvcox Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: On a computer near you Posts: 396	Have cleaner 4, 5.1 and the newest version. Running on a dual AMD 2600 machine with a gig of ram encoding DV AVI to WMF Works at real time, Mpeg 1 takes 4 minutes per minute of video. Mpg2 to wmf 30 seconds per 1 minute of video or double time. All seem to be about the same speed for the most part. We don;t do a ton of encoding as we still are working out all the settings etc, Need to find a good book on how to take video from one format to the next while getting the best results/speed. __________________ SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.