SMS billing - do you pay online with SMS ?!? - GoFuckYourself.com

polish_aristocrat · 09-15-2003, 02:11 PM

Another fucking poll...

Let's see how popular sms billing really is.

extreme · 09-15-2003, 02:47 PM

maybe including the "suck my dick" option wasn't such a great idea ;]

polish_aristocrat · 09-15-2003, 02:49 PM

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Originally posted by extreme
maybe including the "suck my dick" option wasn't such a great idea ;]

I only included it because this is GFY.

Fabuleux · 09-15-2003, 02:51 PM

The problem with SMS billing is you can't bill $35, can you?

polish_aristocrat · 09-15-2003, 02:55 PM

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Originally posted by Fabuleux
The problem with SMS billing is you can't bill $35, can you?

But if you're from Netherlands, then you should know that some surfers don't have credit cards but would be more than happy to pay by SMS.
I started this thread after I made another SMS payment today.

Fabuleux · 09-15-2003, 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by polish_aristocrat

But if you're from Netherlands, then you should know that some surfers don't have credit cards but would be more than happy to pay by SMS.
I started this thread after I made another SMS payment today.

Recently I paid with SMS for some legal information. And I have to say I saw some possibilities for instance pay per view or pay per hour. It's just too damn easy for a customer to send a SMS and have instant access. I think it works great for sites in the Dutch language. Don't know for US.

polish_aristocrat · 09-15-2003, 03:29 PM

Exactly, there are some countries where ppl dont have cc's or if they have them, they use them rarely.
On the other hand, some of them send at least a few sms messages daily.
For them, SMS payments are easier, faster and more natural.
Using a credit card is something special, they are afraid, don't remember the details etc...

ZoiNk · 09-15-2003, 03:34 PM

SMS billing will be getting more and more popular. We got all our cell phone companies in Canada linked for text messages around 1-2 years ago. SMS billing should be around soon, and will catch on in a few years. I think it will be very promising and very lucrative with daily rebills :>
ZoiNk

polish_aristocrat · 09-15-2003, 03:41 PM

But I wonder why in a few years and not now ?
In a few years, all ppl will use MMS and view porn videos on their mobile phones instead of the internet

Surfers are ready for SMS payments already now.
But it seems like the industry isn't ready yet.

pamphage · 09-15-2003, 04:04 PM

i have no idea what it is, but they have my real life initials

yafendi · 09-16-2003, 12:39 AM

Is there any good company out there offering to
handle SMS billing for adult websites (in Europe
especially)? what are the rates?

butcherboy · 09-16-2003, 12:44 AM

Sms billing is pretty fast and easy.
Unfortunately - you can use reverse SMS only for couple of countries...

DamageX · 09-16-2003, 12:48 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by butcherboy
Sms billing is pretty fast and easy.
Unfortunately - you can use reverse SMS only for couple of countries...

Bullshit

DutchTeenCash · 09-16-2003, 01:14 AM

we tried it for our dutch sites some 2 yrs ago, sms gateway, voice computer everything, still the revenue wasnt near a dailer or subscribtion site, maybe the timing wasnt right.

I do think it has a future but paying for streaming or static content FOR your mobile with sms is not something thats within the next couple of months. Mobile phones with cams and full color displays are expensive to be honest noone i know has one, cause they dont want a $100 a month subscribtion free to get that $1000 phone for a buck or two.

Maybe sms reversed billing works for micropayments now, ill stick to dailer, cheaper less complicated and more accepted

polish_aristocrat · 09-16-2003, 04:15 AM

I don't know the polish market, but I think that dialers are almost dead in Poland, because of huge abuse in the past.

On the other hand, everyone is using sms for online payments, f.e getting access to newspaper archives, joining dating sites, getting new tones for mobiles etc.

I know that I wouldn't use a credit card for that by myself, but I am often paying by sms for such services.

DamageX · 09-16-2003, 09:24 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by polish_aristocrat
I don't know the polish market, but I think that dialers are almost dead in Poland, because of huge abuse in the past.

On the other hand, everyone is using sms for online payments, f.e getting access to newspaper archives, joining dating sites, getting new tones for mobiles etc.

I know that I wouldn't use a credit card for that by myself, but I am often paying by sms for such services.

Then get in touch with a company providing SMS billing for Poland, put up a bunch of paysites in Polish and hit the Polish market hard. You should be making bank off of this, instead of posting about it on GFY.

polish_aristocrat · 09-16-2003, 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by DamageX

Then get in touch with a company providing SMS billing for Poland, put up a bunch of paysites in Polish and hit the Polish market hard. You should be making bank off of this, instead of posting about it on GFY.

That would require much investment.
There's certainly already competition doing it.
I am also not sure about the local laws for a paysite dedicated exclusively to the polish market.
I also don;t have any experience in running paysites.
I generall, I prefer the international market, since it;s more stable and more honest ( at least I think so ) than the polish one.

DamageX · 09-16-2003, 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by polish_aristocrat

That would require much investment.
There's certainly already competition doing it.
I am also not sure about the local laws for a paysite dedicated exclusively to the polish market.
I also don;t have any experience in running paysites.
I generall, I prefer the international market, since it;s more stable and more honest ( at least I think so ) than the polish one.

Dude, you're setting up hinders by yourself... You don't need money, just a gameplan. Get in touch with someone who knows how to make good paysites. Then set up a good plan for advertising on domestic sites, thus getting the traffic necessary. Also, get in touch with a domestic SMS-billing processor and do a percentage deal with them, stay away from up-front costs. As for the local laws, I'm pretty sure they're not as up-tight as the US ones, so you'd probably be on the safe side hosting in the US anyway.

bamse · 09-17-2003, 05:54 AM

Sms-billing with no up-front costs and pure revenue sharings - that's us!

Contact me on [email protected] if interested.

DamageX · 09-17-2003, 06:13 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by bamse
Sms-billing with no up-front costs and pure revenue sharings - that's us!

Contact me on [email protected] if interested.

Bamse, ingen ICQ? OM du har det, kontakta mig via ICQ (1566665), är du snäll.

bamse · 09-22-2003, 06:36 AM

Done!

mrblack · 10-07-2003, 01:24 AM

Hi,

Recurring SMS billing does work in most European countries including the UK. A user can be re-billed under a MT type of SMS billing if the network operators in the country support MT billing.

The guys @ http://mPORN.net are successfully billing users in the UK via Premium Rate SMS and also using Credit Cards that enable users to purchase credits that a deducted each day.

View Poll Results: Have you ever paid online with SMS ?
yes, only once / I live in the US	1	2.86%
yes, many times / I live in the US	1	2.86%
never / I live in the US	5	14.29%
yes, only once / I live outside US	2	5.71%
yes, many times / I live outside US	6	17.14%
never / I live outside US	10	28.57%
suck my dick	10	28.57%
Voters: 35. You may not vote on this poll

09-15-2003, 02:11 PM	#1
polish_aristocrat Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 40,377	SMS billing - do you pay online with SMS ?!? Another fucking poll... Let's see how popular sms billing really is. __________________ I don't use ICQ anymore.

09-15-2003, 02:47 PM	#2
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09-15-2003, 02:51 PM	#4
Fabuleux Confirmed User Join Date: May 2003 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 2,543	The problem with SMS billing is you can't bill $35, can you? __________________

09-15-2003, 03:29 PM	#7
polish_aristocrat Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 40,377	Exactly, there are some countries where ppl dont have cc's or if they have them, they use them rarely. On the other hand, some of them send at least a few sms messages daily. For them, SMS payments are easier, faster and more natural. Using a credit card is something special, they are afraid, don't remember the details etc... __________________ I don't use ICQ anymore.

09-15-2003, 03:34 PM	#8
ZoiNk Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 2,370	SMS billing will be getting more and more popular. We got all our cell phone companies in Canada linked for text messages around 1-2 years ago. SMS billing should be around soon, and will catch on in a few years. I think it will be very promising and very lucrative with daily rebills :> ZoiNk __________________ "People can have the Model T in any color - so long as it's black." - Henry Ford

09-15-2003, 03:41 PM	#9
polish_aristocrat Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 40,377	But I wonder why in a few years and not now ? In a few years, all ppl will use MMS and view porn videos on their mobile phones instead of the internet Surfers are ready for SMS payments already now. But it seems like the industry isn't ready yet. __________________ I don't use ICQ anymore.

09-15-2003, 04:04 PM	#10
pamphage Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 3,569	i have no idea what it is, but they have my real life initials

09-16-2003, 12:39 AM	#11
yafendi Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 27	Is there any good company out there offering to handle SMS billing for adult websites (in Europe especially)? what are the rates?

09-16-2003, 12:44 AM	#12
butcherboy Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Planet E. Posts: 183	Sms billing is pretty fast and easy. Unfortunately - you can use reverse SMS only for couple of countries... __________________ ---some wise words goes here--

09-16-2003, 01:14 AM	#14
DutchTeenCash I like Dutch Girls Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: dutchteencash.com Posts: 21,684	we tried it for our dutch sites some 2 yrs ago, sms gateway, voice computer everything, still the revenue wasnt near a dailer or subscribtion site, maybe the timing wasnt right. I do think it has a future but paying for streaming or static content FOR your mobile with sms is not something thats within the next couple of months. Mobile phones with cams and full color displays are expensive to be honest noone i know has one, cause they dont want a $100 a month subscribtion free to get that $1000 phone for a buck or two. Maybe sms reversed billing works for micropayments now, ill stick to dailer, cheaper less complicated and more accepted __________________ ICQ 16 91 547 - SKYPE dutchteencash bob AT dutchteencash DOT com ... did you see our newest Sweet Natural Girl Priscilla (18)?

09-16-2003, 04:15 AM	#15
polish_aristocrat Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 40,377	I don't know the polish market, but I think that dialers are almost dead in Poland, because of huge abuse in the past. On the other hand, everyone is using sms for online payments, f.e getting access to newspaper archives, joining dating sites, getting new tones for mobiles etc. I know that I wouldn't use a credit card for that by myself, but I am often paying by sms for such services. __________________ I don't use ICQ anymore.

09-17-2003, 05:54 AM	#19
bamse Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 32	Sms-billing with no up-front costs and pure revenue sharings - that's us! Contact me on [email protected] if interested.

09-22-2003, 06:36 AM	#21
bamse Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 32	Done!

10-07-2003, 01:24 AM	#22
mrblack Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: BrisVegas Posts: 12	Hi, Recurring SMS billing does work in most European countries including the UK. A user can be re-billed under a MT type of SMS billing if the network operators in the country support MT billing. The guys @ http://mPORN.net are successfully billing users in the UK via Premium Rate SMS and also using Credit Cards that enable users to purchase credits that a deducted each day. __________________ http://mbill.biz "Turnkey Mobile Billing"