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Old 09-16-2003, 07:57 PM   #1
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Answer your ICQ i know you are there so stop ignoring me. its been fucking 3 weeks already i want my FUCKING money. Ive been more than patient with you and im at the end of my rope
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Old 09-16-2003, 07:58 PM   #2
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If you think you're getting your money, you're sadly mistaken. Take it as a loss and move on.
No way in hell am i gonna let these people just basically steal money right out of my fucking pocket.
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No way in hell am i gonna let these people just basically steal money right out of my fucking pocket.
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No way in hell am i gonna let these people just basically steal money right out of my fucking pocket.
You don't get out much, do you? You aren't getting paid.
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hmmm... how did i manage to quote you, yet post ABOVE you?

let's see someone else try that...
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hmmm... how did i manage to quote you, yet post ABOVE you?

WTF?
Her post was somehow made in the future, I don't get it.
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No way in hell am i gonna let these people just basically steal money right out of my fucking pocket.
I understand your frustration, but you need to understand that it's damn near impossible to squeeze water from a rock.
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Here are some threads about this particular topic:

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...threadid=77191
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...threadid=98380
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=154243
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=136209
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...threadid=85089
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...threadid=92014

I'm sorry you had a bad experience, below is another link that will take you to a place
that you can do research in the future:

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/search...der=descending

I hope it all works out for you.
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Old 09-16-2003, 08:32 PM   #20
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Old 09-16-2003, 08:33 PM   #21
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Here are some threads about this particular topic:

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...threadid=77191
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...threadid=98380
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=154243
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=136209
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...threadid=85089
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...threadid=92014

I'm sorry you had a bad experience, below is another link that will take you to a place
that you can do research in the future:

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/search...der=descending

I hope it all works out for you.
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Shit i wish i knew this before i did anything with them. Damn this is gonna hurt. I was really relying on this money.


it sucks when you got kids to feed and people do this
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Old 09-16-2003, 08:35 PM   #22
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Shit i wish i knew this before i did anything with them. Damn this is gonna hurt. I was really relying on this money.


it sucks when you got kids to feed and people do this
Indeed it does. Sorry for your loss.

Maybe he'll come out of the woodworks since you have kids. Oh wait, no he won't, he's a piece of shit.
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Old 09-16-2003, 08:36 PM   #23
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Hungryman doesn't seem to post around here much anymore. He seems to post more frequently on another board. You might have more luck there.

Another great Hungryman thread:
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Old 09-16-2003, 08:49 PM   #25
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Well, people... I tell you and tell you... when you need some work done... come to me... may not be the best... but I am far from the worse and I NEVER RIP PEOPLE OFF!!!..
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"I AM PROBABLY SPAMMING"
Yep. I'd say so!

It is very obvious that this is his EX-PARTNER again. Dude, how many new characters are you going to create, and are you going to start an 8 page spamfest with each one?

You are making yourself look pathetic. Pick up the phone and settle this. Keep your self respect.

that's just my
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Yep. I'd say so!

It is very obvious that this is his EX-PARTNER again. Dude, how many new characters are you going to create, and are you going to start an 8 page spamfest with each one?

You are making yourself look pathetic. Pick up the phone and settle this. Keep your self respect.

that's just my
I think you'll find it's not Vid. Hungry has fucked over <i>plenty</i> of people and i suspect he's going to continue fucking people over in time to come. He's obviously still at it.
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normally I would be inclined to agree with you, but knowing HungryMan (he still designs for me, and I am very happy with his work for the record), and also having met vidvicious in Toronto at webmastersummit, I can say they are BOTH decent guys, but I also know there is some bad blood between them that really has no place on a message board (except for here of course!LMAO).

I have known HungryMan for 2½ years now. I have been to his house in Mississauga at 2:30am bribing him with beer and pizza because I need banners for the next day, and my guy is passed out drunk somewhere, and He has done them for me as I watch. Do I consider him a friend. Yes. Do I also think he has backed himself into a corner with a few of his actions. Yes again.

I have been reading this board alot longer than I have been posting, and what I see here is a bunch of people who call themselves businessmen, yet lack alot of self control that is so very crucial for success in business. Bill Gates gets ripped off more times than HungryMan eats TV dinners (sorry Hungry), but do you see Bill all over the newspapers throwing shit to the fan? no.

I own a camgirl site in Toronto, and 2 years ago released my partner. He was skimming from the business, and it cost me easy 6 figures before it was over. You will not read about it on any board, and only a select few people in the industry knew it was even happening, and trust me it got plenty dirty.

Im sure ther is a moralistic story here somewhere, but I am too tired to look for it. Bottom line is: Hungry, pay vidvicious and wash your hands clean bro, and vidvicious, you need to chill. This kind of attention is not the kind of attention you need. Settel this off the boards, and hell you are self-employed are you not? Write it off if need be. How you handle yourself businesswise, weighs heavily on your character. I think both parties here need to realize that.

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normally I would be inclined to agree with you, but knowing HungryMan (he still designs for me, and I am very happy with his work for the record), and also having met vidvicious in Toronto at webmastersummit, I can say they are BOTH decent guys, but I also know there is some bad blood between them that really has no place on a message board (except for here of course!LMAO).

I have known HungryMan for 2½ years now. I have been to his house in Mississauga at 2:30am bribing him with beer and pizza because I need banners for the next day, and my guy is passed out drunk somewhere, and He has done them for me as I watch. Do I consider him a friend. Yes. Do I also think he has backed himself into a corner with a few of his actions. Yes again.

I have been reading this board alot longer than I have been posting, and what I see here is a bunch of people who call themselves businessmen, yet lack alot of self control that is so very crucial for success in business. Bill Gates gets ripped off more times than HungryMan eats TV dinners (sorry Hungry), but do you see Bill all over the newspapers throwing shit to the fan? no.

I own a camgirl site in Toronto, and 2 years ago released my partner. He was skimming from the business, and it cost me easy 6 figures before it was over. You will not read about it on any board, and only a select few people in the industry knew it was even happening, and trust me it got plenty dirty.

Im sure ther is a moralistic story here somewhere, but I am too tired to look for it. Bottom line is: Hungry, pay vidvicious and wash your hands clean bro, and vidvicious, you need to chill. This kind of attention is not the kind of attention you need. Settel this off the boards, and hell you are self-employed are you not? Write it off if need be. How you handle yourself businesswise, weighs heavily on your character. I think both parties here need to realize that.

Steve
Good post Steve, allthough I think sometimes it can be a good warning for people to know who they are dealing with. What if the one who screwed you screws another one, and another one. With a warning on the boards it can be usefull to others.

About Hungryman, I myself worked for him about 1,5 years ago and got paid without any problems. On the other hand a designer should think twice when I see all these threads about Hungry not paying others.

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Man, he's gonna have to pay a lot more people before his hands are clean. Are you even aware how many people he ripped off? Seriously, he's not a good guy. He might be a likeable guy to some people, but that doesn't make him a good guy. Hell, one of my best buddies is an absolute hahahaha, but i still like the guy.

Hungryman is a thief.

One of the people he stole from is a friend of mine. He may as well have taken it right out of his pockets. He is no different than a petty criminal.

Hungryman outsourced some work to my friend. Said friend completed the work and did a damn fine job of it, too. Hungryman received payment from the client. Right then, he should have paid my mate. He didn't. Not only that, but the 50% that my friend was promised for the job, actually turned out to be less than 50% of what the job cost. So even if Hungryman had paid (which he hasn't, and this has been over a year, mind you), he still would have been stealing.

This is not some guy who has been plagued by bad luck, or has fallen on hard times. This is a thief. This is someone who has no ethics whatsoever. I'm sure he gives his buddies great service. In no way does this make up for the fact that he is a scamming scumbag. He didn't pay a bunch of other designers their cuts either. Wouldn't surprise me at all if what he promised them was less than 50% of the actual cost on those other jobs as well.
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I'd just like to clear that I am not a "buddy" of HungryMan.
Our relationship is business. I don't have time for buddies. While your intentions seem well-meaning, it also seems to me that you are only a barn-burning away from being a one man lynch mob. You keep sayning you are doing this "for your friend" - Reminds me of the woman who calls the Sunday Night Sex Show and says "My friend has a problem ..." LOL

Sorry to be busting your chops dude , but everybody can see right thru your cover, that it is you who has the beef with HungryMan. Why hide behind the "my friend" facade?

Quashe

nice work there! I may have work for you soon!
Glad your standing up for Hungry. I honestly do like the guy. He has alot of charisma! Unfortunately he is like the fat kid in primary school we all picked on - Bad choices made him what he is .. and he's an easy target.
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Bad choices made him what he is .. and he's an easy target.
Yes. His own choices. His choices not to pay designers. His choices not to pay other people he owes money to.

When you choose to rip people off, it's not surprising that people don't like you.
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I'd just like to clear that I am not a "buddy" of HungryMan.
Our relationship is business. I don't have time for buddies. While your intentions seem well-meaning, it also seems to me that you are only a barn-burning away from being a one man lynch mob. You keep sayning you are doing this "for your friend" - Reminds me of the woman who calls the Sunday Night Sex Show and says "My friend has a problem ..." LOL

Sorry to be busting your chops dude , but everybody can see right thru your cover, that it is you who has the beef with HungryMan. Why hide behind the "my friend" facade?
There is no "my friend" facade. The friend in question is Bhutocracy/subnovastudios. He did excellent work for Hungryman. The TechieMedia site is one example. If you care to read through some of the URL's posted in this thread, you can see for yourself. I doubt you have the time for it, but the information is all within those threads if you're really that interested.

Luckily, Bhutocracy is now doing quite well for himself. The ~$1000 that Hungry owes him isn't money that he desperately needs right now. In fact, he's offered to give the money to charity when Hungryman finally decides to pay up. But at the time, he needed that money. I don't think he'll mind me saying that times were tough back then for him. Hungry didn't give a fuck. He stole the money, and lived it up like he's some big pimpin' player. Picking people up from the airport in limos, etc.
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Old 09-17-2003, 08:26 AM   #41
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nice work there! I may have work for you soon!
Glad your standing up for Hungry. I honestly do like the guy. He has alot of charisma! Unfortunately he is like the fat kid in primary school we all picked on - Bad choices made him what he is .. and he's an easy target.
I don't know him personally, but I was just posting my experience with the man Between all the bad puiblicity it is good to see some good every now and then isn't it
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Old 09-17-2003, 09:48 AM   #42
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I agree with Chodadog. Unfortunetely, friendship is one thing and business is another different thing for most of people. The guy can be friend of a lot of people and rip others off and sadly there's no garantee against that. And just cause you've been dealing with someone for a long time, there's no garantee that he's going to pay you forever. But the way i see it, never, never throw the sit on the fence, cause this kind of atitude is not going to make him pay. Unfortunetely, a similar thing happend to a person very close to me and very well known in the industry, scammed by another known (yet not very well) person in this industry. He worked his ass off and didnt get paied. Very few people know about it and never will - this is business and you have to act professionaly, not personaly.
If you want to cry out, them do it. But do it somewhere nobody can hear it
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Old 09-17-2003, 04:50 PM   #43
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by ugly what do you mean???

everyone threatens but never takes action

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Old 09-17-2003, 06:04 PM   #44
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That is exactly my point.

I would not do business with many people because of the shit I see them posting/doing at conventions, etc.

Your demeanor is very important - how one conducts themself in the public eye. The most successful people are always the ones who carry on business quietly behind the scenes.

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Old 09-17-2003, 06:06 PM   #45
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Orgazmo! that's the one!

thx man - I wonder if you can still rent that ?
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Old 09-17-2003, 06:59 PM   #46
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Should be able to. I saw it at my local video store the other day when i was browsing through for some old comedies, and the range there is pretty craptacular. So it's a fair bet that you'll find it at most places.
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Old 09-17-2003, 10:10 PM   #47
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Just a suggestion to CyberWarecInc - word travels VERY fast in this industry. A post like that definitely isn't going to make any friends.
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