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DirtyDanza · 09-19-2003, 11:45 AM

they know something is up..... I dunno but everyone talking about how long it takes for visa all of a sudden.... with ccbill.... when I registered visa with ccbill it was fast.... another thing with the sales... it almost like.... there going under as well.... which is fucked up..... I dunno.... who else is noticing wierd things with ccbill latley..... visa taking longer than expected.. no sales... then telling amacontent that they won't answer his calls.... something is fishy.... then the post to cover there ass in system5 about some bullshit.. spyder.... like they know were talking so they post something to cover there ass.... I think they should come clean.....

Ray@TastyDollars · 09-19-2003, 12:02 PM

This deserves a bump

KaLi · 09-19-2003, 12:06 PM

You use a lot of .......

clubsexy · 09-19-2003, 12:08 PM

As an affiliate promoting a vast number of ccbill sites, I can tell you that my conversion ratios are terrible the last few weeks.

I can't sell water to people on fire right now it seems.

Ray@TastyDollars · 09-19-2003, 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by clubsexy
As an affiliate promoting a vast number of ccbill sites, I can tell you that my conversion ratios are terrible the last few weeks.

I can't sell water to people on fire right now it seems.

Ive had two sponsors this week go to shit for like 3-4 days. By shit, I mean ratios that the whole year were like 1:100-1:200, All of a sudden those 3-4 days they fell to 1:1000+ . One of those sponsors seems to be back to regular today, the other is still falling fast. Im wondering if CCbill is their primary processor. Gonna find out.

BabeHunter · 09-19-2003, 12:23 PM

DirtyDanza · 09-19-2003, 12:27 PM

I just don't understand it.......

Dildozer · 09-19-2003, 12:29 PM

it happened to a sponsor i used as well, conversion ratio has gone to utter shit for a whole day and then the next it was back up to normal (thank god)

Ray@TastyDollars · 09-19-2003, 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ray
Im wondering if CCbill is their primary processor. Gonna find out.

Ok, check it out. Both DO NOT us CCbill

09-19-2003, 12:32 PM

All I can seak on is the conversion ratios. They seem to be fine on my end although they were shit last week. I'm back to convertng 1:253 overall on CCbill. Lets hold our breath and hope something bad isn't happening though.

NetRodent · 09-19-2003, 12:35 PM

Visa approval seems to be taking a long time at most of the IPSPs.

Ian · 09-19-2003, 12:39 PM

Last week was a bit wonky but this week things are flying.

Candyman69 · 09-19-2003, 12:40 PM

CCBILL is owning here

been owning forever.. raitios got even better after summer...

TheSaint · 09-19-2003, 12:44 PM

Yeah, these threads never go anywhere. CCBill sux for me last 72 hours, but the previous 6 days were record setting.

I think its just the nature of porn, unless of course CCBill has "shave days".

swami · 09-19-2003, 12:48 PM

I have got to put my

in here.
There is something going down with conversions these last 5 days.
Nastydollars has gone from 1:330 to 1:1300 and its the same with a couple of other sponsors as well.Topbucks had the same problem but has got it back together acouple of days ago.
I talked to nasty and they said they had Technical issues whtever the fuck that means but still today nothing has changed.
We all know about taking the good with the bad but this is

FUCKING ALL BAD!!

corvette · 09-19-2003, 12:55 PM

Dirty_DS,

I can assure you that nothing is amiss. There have been no global changes in sales velocity

As far as your sales go, we had a brief discussion about them earlier this week (perhaps late last week, I don?t recall, I was out of town the majority of the week).

There are factors other than the billing company that can affect sales. It is a matter of troubleshooting to find the failure, if one can be found. I continuously stress this; if you think that something is wrong, test it out for yourself. There are many things that can be looked at. I continue to fail to understand why the blame always seems to default to the billing company. You can get a good idea if there is an issue with the processor by testing it?all it takes is a few seconds, see for yourself. In addition, most webmasters have a range of tools/stats are at their fingertips to troubleshoot the issue on their own:

Have your traffic patterns/sources changed?
Is the ratio of hits to your front page vs. hits to the pre-signup page changed?
Have your declines suddenly increased dramatically?

?just to name a few off of the top of my head

Who knows, the demographics of the type of people that join your site can be coming from an area that is having network issues.

One more thing and this is from my own personal thoughts and experience. I liken some situations to a bell curve. One a particular day, or week, a small percentage of webmasters have unusually good day, and a small percentage of webmasters have an unusually bad day, with the majority having a day that deviates little from normal sales. Same concept applies affiliates.

You can test what you can, and get a good idea of what is working and what isn?t, but face it, if you ask most site owners, you will see that sales are not always consistent. You might have a great week, and the next week be not so great?like anything else in any business or industry

D_Nell · 09-19-2003, 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dirty_DS
they know something is up..... I dunno but everyone talking about how long it takes for visa all of a sudden.... with ccbill.... when I registered visa with ccbill it was fast.... another thing with the sales... it almost like.... there going under as well.... which is fucked up..... I dunno.... who else is noticing wierd things with ccbill latley..... visa taking longer than expected.. no sales... then telling amacontent that they won't answer his calls.... something is fishy.... then the post to cover there ass in system5 about some bullshit.. spyder.... like they know were talking so they post something to cover there ass.... I think they should come clean.....

Well looks like AMA got approved today finally. But I agree VISA is the problem always has been always will be!

roscoe98 · 09-19-2003, 01:02 PM

Our converstions are doing just fine and we use ccbill as our processor.

Johny Traffic · 09-19-2003, 01:03 PM

Its funny but my sales are up these week, I hope we are not all getting paranoid

Que? · 09-19-2003, 01:32 PM

Monday night football and budweiser is to blame

GotGauge · 09-19-2003, 01:40 PM

The last 2-3 days have been bad with ccbill conversions,
Today is looking better.

spooky181 · 09-19-2003, 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by clubsexy
As an affiliate promoting a vast number of ccbill sites, I can tell you that my conversion ratios are terrible the last few weeks.

I can't sell water to people on fire right now it seems.

You need to promote site's that use Verotel, they convert much better due to there not being as big a scrub issue.

Spooky

Splash · 09-19-2003, 10:48 PM

Verotel????

You've got to be kidding.

twistyneck · 09-19-2003, 10:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dirty_DS
they know something is up..... I dunno but everyone talking about how long it takes for visa all of a sudden.... with ccbill.... when I registered visa with ccbill it was fast.... another thing with the sales... it almost like.... there going under as well.... which is fucked up..... I dunno.... who else is noticing wierd things with ccbill latley..... visa taking longer than expected.. no sales... then telling amacontent that they won't answer his calls.... something is fishy.... then the post to cover there ass in system5 about some bullshit.. spyder.... like they know were talking so they post something to cover there ass.... I think they should come clean.....

How do you expect anyone to take you seriously when you insist on butchering your ellipses? Jesus Christ, some of you people are fucking savages. It's "..." not "....." you son of a bitch.

galleryseek · 09-19-2003, 10:58 PM

uhm, something IS fucked up. and the traffic isn't bad traffic.

1:1,792

wtf?

TheJimmy · 09-19-2003, 11:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by KaLi
You use a lot of .......

don't hate the ...

DirtyDanza · 09-19-2003, 11:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by twistyneck

How do you expect anyone to take you seriously when you insist on butchering your ellipses? Jesus Christ, some of you people are fucking savages. It's "..." not "....." you son of a bitch.

you fucking load..... I willl use ..... 9..... of them..... yes..... 9.........

jimmy3way · 09-19-2003, 11:04 PM

I got two sites, each has an Epoch join page and a CCBill join page and ratios are very close this week to what they have historically been for my sites...awesome.

Granted I don't do Silvercash numbers here, but I do enough joins to notice when my numbers change and they've been fine for me.

SGS · 09-20-2003, 12:48 AM

CCBill rock.

When CCBill goes its game over guys.

DeadFidel · 09-20-2003, 04:31 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by SGS
CCBill rock.

When CCBill goes its game over guys.

Well said.

Think about it. Corvette comes on EACH time a thread like this appears. He does not bullshit and always gives a reasonable explaination, and an effort for help. They are up 24-7 for goodness sakes.

gooddomains · 09-20-2003, 04:46 AM

go with verotel.com and you will see a lot more signups with them and they are great to work with, give them a try and you will be wondering why you haven't used them before.

DutchTeenCash · 09-20-2003, 04:49 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by gooddomains
go with verotel.com and you will see a lot more signups with them and they are great to work with, give them a try and you will be wondering why you haven't used them before.

maybe because theyre offline for 10% of the time ? maybe because they pay 1-900 after 3 months ? maybe because they process sites that are really questionable ?

DeadFidel · 09-20-2003, 05:37 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by thinkx

maybe because theyre offline for 10% of the time ? maybe because they pay 1-900 after 3 months ? maybe because they process sites that are really questionable ?

Questionable?? Please. The "Modeling" sites you are refering to are little girls, 8yo-12yo, in spread shots wearing thongs and lingerie. Model my ASS.
What a bunch of stupit business people kicking ass making money of pedo buyers because of a loop whole in the system!!
I will NOT post the URL to the list of such fucked up material, you all now where they are.
If I were at the beach and saw a 17 year old with big breast I would not look away, but an 8-9 yo? come on now!!
Verotel:

Gouges · 09-20-2003, 05:55 AM

My overall CCbill conversion over the past few months:

1:16,949

Thank god its not my BW.

09-19-2003, 11:45 AM	#1
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09-19-2003, 12:29 PM	#8
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09-19-2003, 12:32 PM	#10
shermo Guest Posts: n/a	All I can seak on is the conversion ratios. They seem to be fine on my end although they were shit last week. I'm back to convertng 1:253 overall on CCbill. Lets hold our breath and hope something bad isn't happening though.

09-19-2003, 12:35 PM	#11
NetRodent Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: In the walls of your house. Posts: 3,985	Visa approval seems to be taking a long time at most of the IPSPs. __________________ "Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." --H.L. Mencken

09-19-2003, 12:39 PM	#12
Ian Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 1,259	Last week was a bit wonky but this week things are flying.

09-19-2003, 12:40 PM	#13
Candyman69 Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Florida Posts: 764	CCBILL is owning here been owning forever.. raitios got even better after summer... __________________ domain buyer

09-19-2003, 12:44 PM	#14
TheSaint Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Everywhere at once Posts: 991	Yeah, these threads never go anywhere. CCBill sux for me last 72 hours, but the previous 6 days were record setting. I think its just the nature of porn, unless of course CCBill has "shave days".

09-19-2003, 12:48 PM	#15
swami Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: vanuatu Posts: 1,989	I have got to put my in here. There is something going down with conversions these last 5 days. Nastydollars has gone from 1:330 to 1:1300 and its the same with a couple of other sponsors as well.Topbucks had the same problem but has got it back together acouple of days ago. I talked to nasty and they said they had Technical issues whtever the fuck that means but still today nothing has changed. We all know about taking the good with the bad but this is FUCKING ALL BAD!!

09-19-2003, 12:55 PM	#16
corvette Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: scottsdale Posts: 7,880	Dirty_DS, I can assure you that nothing is amiss. There have been no global changes in sales velocity As far as your sales go, we had a brief discussion about them earlier this week (perhaps late last week, I don?t recall, I was out of town the majority of the week). There are factors other than the billing company that can affect sales. It is a matter of troubleshooting to find the failure, if one can be found. I continuously stress this; if you think that something is wrong, test it out for yourself. There are many things that can be looked at. I continue to fail to understand why the blame always seems to default to the billing company. You can get a good idea if there is an issue with the processor by testing it?all it takes is a few seconds, see for yourself. In addition, most webmasters have a range of tools/stats are at their fingertips to troubleshoot the issue on their own: Have your traffic patterns/sources changed? Is the ratio of hits to your front page vs. hits to the pre-signup page changed? Have your declines suddenly increased dramatically? ?just to name a few off of the top of my head Who knows, the demographics of the type of people that join your site can be coming from an area that is having network issues. One more thing and this is from my own personal thoughts and experience. I liken some situations to a bell curve. One a particular day, or week, a small percentage of webmasters have unusually good day, and a small percentage of webmasters have an unusually bad day, with the majority having a day that deviates little from normal sales. Same concept applies affiliates. You can test what you can, and get a good idea of what is working and what isn?t, but face it, if you ask most site owners, you will see that sales are not always consistent. You might have a great week, and the next week be not so great?like anything else in any business or industry __________________ If you need a good company for check writing services, then check out checkissuing, and for webhosting, check out Phoenix NAP

09-19-2003, 01:02 PM	#18
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09-19-2003, 01:03 PM	#19
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09-19-2003, 01:32 PM	#20
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09-19-2003, 01:40 PM	#21
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09-19-2003, 10:48 PM	#23
Splash Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 89	Verotel???? You've got to be kidding.

09-19-2003, 10:58 PM	#25
galleryseek Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 8,234	uhm, something IS fucked up. and the traffic isn't bad traffic. 1:1,792 wtf?

09-19-2003, 11:04 PM	#28
jimmy3way Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Top Secret Hideout Posts: 2,508	I got two sites, each has an Epoch join page and a CCBill join page and ratios are very close this week to what they have historically been for my sites...awesome. Granted I don't do Silvercash numbers here, but I do enough joins to notice when my numbers change and they've been fine for me. __________________ One thing, I forgot this last detail: the Biz Markie will always prevail.

09-20-2003, 12:48 AM	#29
SGS Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mallorca - Nottingham Posts: 5,176	CCBill rock. When CCBill goes its game over guys. __________________ See sig...

09-20-2003, 04:46 AM	#31
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09-20-2003, 05:55 AM	#34
Gouges Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 152	My overall CCbill conversion over the past few months: 1:16,949 Thank god its not my BW.