bigdog

who do you think does more signups per day siccash or lightspeed?

Mr.Soze

I would put my money on lightspeed.

rooster

lightspeed program , but I bet brads overall profit is higher for his business.

Brad-Wishing

Lightspeed is my guess as well. It's more well known anyways.

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calm

hahaha

...ahhh, fools

Rick Latona

I have to agree with you on this one. Steve's a great guy but I guarantee you that SIC cash gets more joins. People don't realize that most successful programs get a small percentage of their daily joins from their "webmasters".

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Brad-Wishing

That's a good point actually, Rick.

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calm

competence is so refreshing


...another good point would be Brad pulls alot more traffic than LSC. And just because LightspeedCash is more well known doesn't mean it produces more signups than SicCash... I'd even venture to guess that SC consistently pushes more signups than LSC.

reynold

SICK

Serge_Oprano

I dunno about joins,
but if I had to bet,
I'd bet that siccash brings more money to the table at the end of the year

JamesK

yes

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BradShaw

Would not surprise me if Steve gets more joins if you compare sic cash to lightspeed at this point. I have not pushed SIC CASH much in the last year. There is more $ to be made elsewhere at this point.

But no doubt I make more $ overall. SIC CASH webmaster program makes up less than 50% of my income. Lets not forget content, lease feeds, and my own traffic.

With this said, we are working on a new webmaster program (taking everything I have learned in the last 7 years and packaging it), and its not $10;-)

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bigdog

so where is the money to be made Brad?

xdcdave

that is the question isnt it.

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PrivateEye

Wake up BIGDOG

But he left off the mailing list.

bigdog

i thought he meant other stuff in mainstream

Brad-Wishing

What's "mainstream"? ;)

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SleazyDream

from what I know about both companies' gross revenue through the grapevine I'd say there are VERY close to each other actually.

I'd hazard to even say within about 20% of each other.

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SteveLightspeed

Who ever said Lightspeedcash is making any money? How do you know I'm not living off inheritance money or something?

I ran a very successful consulting company for years, but then I started Lightspeed for the sake of fun, so in that way, I'm the richest man in the world. I'm having the time of my life.

Brad and I don't compete. At least I don't compete with him.

There are so many things that money can't buy, so why would I kill myself and be miserable just to make more of it?

Last night, I danced around my house like a goofball with my two children. It was wonderful, and it was completely free of charge.

Steve Lightspeed

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BradShaw

My own traffic (adult). I have made about $9 in mainstream.

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Shit I wish gross was important! I as well have never considered Steve competition. He runs a circus, brags about his careless and irresponsible behavior time and time again. I stir shit, make $.

If I was competing with him, I would take my 2 Jet Skis out and wreck them, then post pictures bragging about it and how much fun it was. My bad, I would rent them then trash them. Atleast Steve is smart enough not to trash his own property, just other peoples.

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SleazyDream

cough cough- gross - cough cough

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SleazyDream

this is why I idolize you.

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Ross

In that sense you have a lot more than Bradshaw!

Life ins't all about money, if you don't enjoy life you can't enjoy your money!

Not saying Brad doesn't enjoy life but if Steve can be in this business for fun then thats cool!

JFK

Will the Real Lightspeed please Stand up ^^^!!! There you have it in a nutshell..... This is why so may of us in here love the guy, down to earth , honest, wears his heart on his sleve . Way To go Steve You Da Man

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rooster

theres a danger though in becoming too much of a mark for your own content. Kinda like 'getting high on your own supply'. It could lead to bad business decisions.

PerfectionGirls

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DrewKole

Siccash. =)

Like Brad says, he's got his hands in so many honeypots, I really don't think Steve can compete.

Steve has a stronger and more loyal following, but... interesting enough in this business, that doesn't mean jack shit.

SleazyDream

only people who havn't made it say that

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Serge_Oprano

Sleazy,
give it to Drew on this one, he is correct.

NOBODY pissed more with Brad than me,
NOBODY made more research on Brad than me,
and I DO know what he is talking about...


if you REALLY wanna hit Brad hard-
talk about his enlarged prostate gland! NOBODY gonna arguw with you on this one
;-)))

Serge_Oprano

Brad, Jet Skis are NOT Jewish sport, don't even go there
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SleazyDream

serge, I have friends that make 100 million + a year and friends that make very little. Money is important, (anyone that tells you that it isn't is a fool), but the older I get the more I come to realize that what TRULY is important is how you lived your life. If you were happy and enjoyed life, that's what mattered. I stive for balance myself and it's a neverending battle. To reach what I consider to be bliss I look to other people who have the life and attitude that i wish for myself. Steve Jones is one of those people who i look up to. Not for money (although he does very well for himself), but for lifestyle. I have many close frineds that make a lot more than steve does, VERY VERY few enjoy it as much as he does.

I don't know brad , all I know of him is third party reports from other people and most all of the third party reports I hear arn't good. His real persona from what I hear isn't much better than his GFY persona. I've heard of some prettty crappy things that he's done that although might make some sense financially, personally make for one hell of an asshole. Now understand that i believe that greed and money are good things, but sometimes you have to give to receive and I don't think I've ever sceen Brad do that. (brad correct me if I'm wrong) I get the impression with brad it's just take take take.

I wonder why Brad has't come to many conventions recently - is it possible that maybe shawcutie won't let him go alone for fear of loosing him.....(it happened before)

I refrain from making any real judgement though till I meet the man.

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Cole Montana

I guess we know where peoples priorities are. Spending time to talk crap and make up stories about competition, while that competition is spending quality time with family, and not bothering to lower himself by fireing back meaningless filth. Then again. Brad you did say that you enjoy stirring things up. Steve may have his faults, but I've seen much worse in the bizz.

Now can we all get a group hug with gratuitouse reach arounds?
I love you fucks!!

Cole "Kewl Beans" Montana

p.s. please forgive my spelling, I can't find spell check on here.

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triumph

Steve you nailed it with that one man, I play around with my kids all day long and I love it! I have twin boys and no money in the world can ever come close to that!

Steve, I really admire your attitude towards life! Keep up the good work.

Serge_Oprano

Sleazy,
I don't socialize with Brad, so I don't have my first hand knowledge about his "out of boards" persona.
From what I do know,
him and me have very little in common,
practically no common interests and I find his interests like hunting, fishing, bragging, etc, beyond my comprehension.

but...this is GFY, this is NOT social club or your living room where you entertain your friends,
thus your "out of boards" persona ain't mean shit on the boards.

This is BUSINESS "club" and ONLY business matters here...

The rest is blah-blah-blah
;-)))

Serge_Oprano

oh puuuhleeze,
who gives a fucks' ass what you do wiht your children?

you are not running for a public office, do ya?

This is GFY, webmasters porn business board and those who make their business decissions based upon one's "family values" -
is a fool and a dumb fuck.

People, it never ceases to amaze me how fast you lose focus...

Serge_Oprano

BTW,
I can shred into pieces BOTH "out of board" personas,
Steve's and Brad's...
but..

WHAT THIS HAS TO DO WITH BUSINESS????

to those who beleive that "home persona" has relevance in business performance,
here are a few FACTS:

1) Goebbels LOVED animals and wouldn't even concieve hurting one

2) Martin Borman was a Opera/Classical music connoseur

3) Hitler idiolize Classical composer Wagner...

4) Joseph Stalin was a patron of the folks art...

all of the above are responcible for the deaths of over 50 million people...

have a nice day and home life, GFYers
;_)))

SleazyDream

if you think GFY is JUST about business you need to give your head a shake

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Serge_Oprano

Sleazy,
if you REALY believe that, YOU need to have your head examined...

GFY is the place where 20% of the smart ones make money of the rest 80%.

BUSINESS is the REASON why 20% are here,
and it's MUCH easier to make money of 80% when 80% entertained and believe they get something more than the crumbs they are thrown.

I invented thisa board games loooong before you made your first nickel on the net,
you are not talking with "amateur boarder" here,
"boards games" is a science, please make note of it
;-))))

Serge_Oprano

..and if you need me to show my point MORE clear,
I can do it using Brad's and Steve's "enterteintment for the masses" formulas and show you where I am right and where you
are wrong.

They only look opposite on the surface, in reality they are ABSOLUTELLY the same formulas.

makefuckingmoney

The size of your parties dont matter..

Why waste your money on people that wont send you traffic, have no traffic to send or are lackeys for other programs..

I start my bribes at the top!

DrewKole

or people who don't care about making it. =)

Could care less who has, will or won't make it, make more $$$ than me, or anything of that sort.

My life and income are extremely stable, that's what I care about.

slapass

Fuck! I actually agree with most of this.
Serge please go back to just spewing crap as it makes me uncomfortable agreeing with you.

Serge_Oprano

idiot, you are making first steps in understanding business,
pat yourself on the back and congratulate yourself with FINALLY starting to understand what I am talking about...

Serge_Oprano

BTW, did you notice that I called you an IDIOT and NOT a moron?

I DO recognize you making a progress
;-)))

shawcutie

Sleazy, I am sorry to burst your bubble but that is not the case. I love going to the shows, I miss seeing my friends ;)

As for you guys hating on Bradley, I admit that he deserves it sometimes. But for you to say that in person he is bitter and unhappy, is false. In fact he is my "wittle bunny" Bradley is the most caring and loving person I know. He loves mint chocolate chip ice cream, walking the dogs, watching The Bachelor, reading the Enquirer and OU football. He even likes it when I call him Pooh Bear ;)

Damn that sounds like a ad for Match.com!

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rockbear

I would say Siccash but since that the free trial is not available anymore with siccash and that the signup dropped I say Lightspeed now