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Old 11-25-2003, 01:45 PM   #1
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I am going to commit libel against Leo Radvinsky of Ultrapasswords

Leo,

You must be one of the most stupid individuals I have ever met. Answer me this how can I have committed libel/slander against you if I did not say it to anyone else or send copies of these emails to anyone else?

You are also so fucking thick not to know the difference between libel and slander. They are two totally different things. Slander is spoken, libel is written.

You do not have a spotless reputation in the industry as you have been taken to court before.

You did not have any authorisation to allow people access to my product therefore you are guilty of aiding and abetting a theft. Due to your illegal activity I want to be compensated for all the times you have committed it before and the crime you committed on Sunday night.

You know how long you have to pay.

As you have these expensive lawyers you talk about I will now go and post this email conversation on a message board and email you the link. I believe you can get legal aid to take me to court for libel so I would start applying now.

Leo I dont want to talk nicely to you. I want to see your balls roast and you pay me the money you owe. I am going to give you one piece of advice I would advice you to take on board very seriously. I dont like you, I want to get back what you have stolen from me in bandwidth bills and general hassle. I will get it from you no matter which route I have to take.

Watch www.gofuckyourself.com over the next ten minutes and then inform your expensive lawyers to issue action against me.



David.

P.S. You ask your lawyers to take me to court for libel as I have written it on the message board and not libel. Actually hold that thought I maybe able to do both.







>From: "Leo Radvinsky"
>To: "David Tainsh"
>Subject: Re: WWW Form Submission
>Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 14:31:00 -0600
>
>David,
>
>I have a spotless reputation in this industry and, since my honest word is very important to my doing business, I am considering suing you for slander/libel if you continue your verbal assults about me.
>
>So far you have not shown me any evidence of any wrong doing .. and as such, I am forced to assume that this is extortion. "Pay me $3k in 4 days or I'll sue" sounds like a malicious threat and goes well with the rest of the tone of your letter.
>
>What company are you even from?
>
>I assure you that you would do much better by talking to me in a civilized fashion and being nice than with threats like these.
>
>-Leo
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: David Tainsh
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 4:16 AM
> Subject: Re: WWW Form Submission
>
>
> "This sounds like extortion to me" - Extortion? You were the one who fucked my server you little fuck.
>
> "You will only end up paying your own lawyer fees in addition to mine, and my lawyers are expensive ;-) " - Yeah I bet they are. You would lose instantly. You are an illegal password trader do you think a court is going to view you with any respect?
>
> "I am a nice and honest guy as everyone else would attest to" - You are a first class arsehole, honest? You cost us money. Cant you see what you do is wrong? What gave you the right to post passwords to me sites?
>
> "You'll catch more flies with honey than vinegar. " - I dont intend in catching you I just want to squat you.
>
> Leo we are a multi million pound publishing company and have been in the adult business for years. You are a pathetic little individual who thinks he has lawyers. If you actually think you have lawyers let alone expensive ones you are also insane.
>
> You must understand that bandwidth costs money? You must realise that you sent ten of thousands of people through to the site all not paying who had access to our members area with the videos which they were downloading. So it cost a hell of alot of money. I really dont think it is extortion. Did I post user names and passwords to your paysites up for all to use for free? No I didnt.
>
> You have 4 days to pay us the $3k. Actually can you give me the number of your 'expensive' lawyers so that I can explain to them why we are going to take you to court and on what ground. I think your expensive lawyers will tell you to settle up out of court.
>
> David.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >From: "Leo Radvinsky"
> >To: "David Tainsh"
> >Subject: Re: WWW Form Submission
> >Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 21:42:44 -0600
> >
> >David,
> >
> >No, I will not give you $3000 out of nowhere. This sounds like extortion to me. If you want to sue me, go ahead. You will only end up paying your own lawyer fees in addition to mine, and my lawyers are expensive ;-)
> >
> >I am a nice and honest guy as everyone else would attest to. You'll catch more flies with honey than vinegar.
> >
> >-Leo
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: David Tainsh
> > To: [email protected]
> > Sent: Monday, November 24, 2003 6:39 PM
> > Subject: Re: WWW Form Submission
> >
> >
> > To Leo
> >
> > Are you going to not respond to us? I want to know if we are going to get the $3k that you owe us or if we have to take you to court?
> >
> > David.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >From: "Leo Radvinsky"
> > >To: "David Tainsh"
> > >Subject: Re: WWW Form Submission
> > >Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 02:20:19 -0800
> > >
> > >David,
> > >
> > >It is not hard to find my address. You could have simply asked me for it.
> > >
> > >I've now got your domains you emailed me; I'll blacklist them asap.
> > >
> > >Thanks
> > >
> > >-Leo
> > >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > > From: David Tainsh
> > > To: [email protected]
> > > Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2003 8:12 PM
> > > Subject: Re: WWW Form Submission
> > >
> > >
> > > To Leo
> > >
> > > You have cost me thousands over the years posting password to sites such as:
> > >
> > > http://www.ukvideobabes.com /.net http://www.xxxvida.com http://www.xxxadele.com http://www.xxxmichellethorne.com http://www.xxxlaura.com
> > >
> > >
> > > I would estimate that the total cost is over $3k in bandwidth. The true amount is being calculated by my hosting company now.
> > >
> > > We have your address so you dont need to worry about us needing to know how to contact you for payment via the courts.
> > >
> > > Yours
> > >
> > > David Tainsh.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >From: "Leo Radvinsky"
> > > >To: "David"
> > > >Subject: Re: WWW Form Submission
> > > >Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 20:05:49 -0800
> > > >
> > > >Hi David,
> > > >
> > > >I've blacklisted your site, let me know if you want me to blacklist any
> > > >other domains of yours. Thanks
> > > >
> > > >-Leo
> > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > >From: "David"
> > > >To:
> > > >Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2003 8:28 PM
> > > >Subject: WWW Form Submission
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Below is the result of your feedback form. It was submitted by
> > > > > David ([email protected]) on November 23rd, 2003
> > > > >
> > > > > realname: David
> > > > > email: [email protected]
> > > > > regarding: Questions or Comments
> > > > > body: 87 Ukpornochicks.com
> > > > > sliney
> > > > > skinner
> > > > >
> > > > > This is an awesome photos site that features softcore and hardcore photo
> > > >galleries of famous pornstars from the UK. The site is fast and easy to
> > > >navigate to find what you want. Check it out.
> > > > >
> > > > > I know someone who has previously taken you to court over password trading
> > > >and I am getting your address off them tomorrow Leo.
> > > > >
> > > > > I would seriously consider stopping posting my passwords and think of a
> > > >way that you can compensate me for the bandwidth you burned last night.
> > > > >
> > > > > Yours
> > > > >
> > > > > David




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Leo you stupid fuck that is libel....give in two hours and I will do slander as well!!!
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Old 11-25-2003, 01:46 PM   #2
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Old 11-25-2003, 01:49 PM   #4
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Old 11-25-2003, 01:51 PM   #5
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Old 11-25-2003, 02:01 PM   #6
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Leo your legal aide lawyers would state that this would be libel if it was untrue.

If I said your mother was a retarded inbread donkey that to is not libel as it is true. Say you posted in this thread and said I was an arsehole that would be libel as you are lying.
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Old 11-25-2003, 02:06 PM   #7
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Count the number of people that came in through his site & charge 1 month membership by headcount?

$3k seems like a deal.
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Old 11-25-2003, 02:08 PM   #8
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Count the number of people that came in through his site & charge 1 month membership by headcount?

$3k seems like a deal.
It was in the 40k range and allowing he has done it several times over the past 3 years I agree $3k is cheap. I like the idea $1 per hit....I will provide the log files to show he owes me $250k from over 3 years worth of me providing content to his surfers....

Thanks for that idea.
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Old 11-25-2003, 02:24 PM   #9
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Old 11-25-2003, 02:28 PM   #10
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why you posting personal info about people in your dumb ass thread?
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Old 11-25-2003, 02:30 PM   #11
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Old 11-25-2003, 02:31 PM   #12
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Leo is a dumb ass C_U_N+T
About 5-6 years ago I telephoned him (after several failed email attempts) and was surprised that the phone was answered by his mother - The twat was still living at home -
When I spoke to him, I swear I could smell the stech of him having shit himself -
Since then, he has tried to hide behind false email addys etc -

Any person posting passwords to adult sites is freely letting in people of unveryfied age -

Any sponsors (You scumbags know who you are) who allow these sites to promote yours, are damaging this biz because of the reason above and should lose all rights to being able to accept cc payments online -

They are also supporting fucking up the business of other webmasters as those who have passwords posted, have to foot the bill.

Many of you will argue that password protection secures this from happening - Yea? Once a password has been blocked, it can still be used in many cases!
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Old 11-25-2003, 02:32 PM   #13
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Do you know who Leo Radvinsky is? No you probably dont you dont run any pay sites and have just done your first tgp post.
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Old 11-25-2003, 02:33 PM   #14
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Old 11-25-2003, 02:34 PM   #15
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Old 11-25-2003, 02:34 PM   #16
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sue him krome... ask for $250k as damages...
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Any sponsors (You scumbags know who you are) who allow these sites to promote yours, are damaging this biz because of the reason above and should lose all rights to being able to accept cc payments online -

*cough* Nasty Dollars *cough*
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If someone commits a crime and you ask for money to not press charges, without using a lawyer, isnt that illegal?
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yes, i just heard it on tv

it's on uefa.com also

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yes but not to worry this dude is all mouth just search gfy for some of his past posts they will make you laugh
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In most countries, yes. Extortion
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It is compensation for the bandwidth he burnt up...
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$3k? Sue that cocksucker for $300k. That's about what he has stolen from me over the years.
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Leo is a stupid little whore.
Sue that, you little cocksucker.

It's a fucking miracle you are still in business.

Hey Brad, post a scan of that check you got from suing him
A picture of this twit being served at his mothers house, now that would have been a Kodak moment.
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ask Brad Shaw...he sued him, he won and he knows everything about this prick...
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This is why I have password protection in place, and every body gets random generated passwords!

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sue sue sue.....have at least 10,000 pages of shit of which his 1/2 his lawyer will go through....delay the court and inundate them with more paper work. Print out this whole thread including the HTML. Sue for 10 times more than you really want. Keep adding charges.

My latest technique includes a stalking charge while adding an emotional distress. The American law system is amazing. The other side will fold unless he has a lot of money(like millions and more than two lawyers).
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...allowing he has done it several times over the past 3 years I agree $3k is cheap. I like the idea $1 per hit....I will provide the log files to show he owes me $250k from over 3 years worth of me providing content to his surfers....


This has been going on for 3 years and you STILL haven't figured out how to shut down a stolen password automatically? You fuckin deserve every bit of stolen bandwidth you lost.
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If you need any help going after Leo, please get with me. I sued with him and settled after getting a default judgment.

It was a shame that he was invited to be at an invite only webmaster trip by a major sponsor this year.
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Leo has no lawyers, or cheap ones. I could have owned his ass. Problem was the tax returns I got from the court showed he made little $. He got very lucky. In the end, I got a settlement that I was happy with.
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Go Leo - he's not some hot-headed punk at least.

But take him down! Sue EVERYBODY!


Just hire someone to put his site out of commission.
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sig spot, than ill read.
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Old 12-01-2005, 01:36 AM   #42
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Old 12-01-2005, 01:39 AM   #43
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One of his sites ranks about around 1,000 on Alexa so he's making money, that's for sure.
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Old 12-01-2005, 01:42 AM   #44
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Any site that condones password trading is shit in my opinion.
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Old 12-01-2005, 01:53 AM   #45
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sig spot, than ill read.
You're very intelligent.
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Old 12-01-2005, 02:58 AM   #46
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Leo can smoke more pot than all of you morons im sure
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Old 12-01-2005, 03:03 AM   #47
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Leo can smoke more pot than all of you morons im sure
wow that so cool
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Old 12-01-2005, 03:04 AM   #48
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Love this bullshit...

"I have a spotless reputation in this industry and, since my honest word is very important to my doing business, I am considering suing you for slander/libel if you continue your verbal assults about me."

Spotless?? Yea.. dream on!
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Old 12-01-2005, 03:06 AM   #49
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You're very intelligent.
why thankyou
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Old 12-01-2005, 04:05 AM   #50
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what is this dudes deal?

I'm assuming the info he gives in WHOIS is fake, but this guy doesnt even seem to try and hide...

Does anyone know who hosts him?
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