Governor Arnold to release 1/3 of all prisoners in CA jails!

[Mr.Fiction]

Convinced that California can no longer afford its $5.3 billion prison and parole system, Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger's administration is exploring moves that would all but eliminate parole conditions for nonviolent, nonserious offenders and eventually -- through early release and lighter penalties -- dramatically shrink the prison population.

Some of the moves result from recent court settlements. Others are efforts whose planning began under former Gov. Gray Davis and have been speeded up by Schwarzenegger.

"Arnold has had us identify the nonviolent, nonthreatening inmates," said one high-ranking corrections official working on some of the proposals. "We could probably cut the (prison) population by a third, which would be a huge savings for taxpayers and give some of these people a chance to be productive citizens again."

http://www.sacbee.com/content/politi...-8949908c.html

On some issues, Arnold is turning out to be more liberal than Davis.

[Paul Markham]

Problem will come when they start reoffending and the police do not have the budget to investigate the crimes.

A risky move IMO

[Mr.Fiction]

Originally posted by charly
Problem will come when they start reoffending and the police do not have the budget to investigate the crimes.

A risky move IMO

Some of these people are probably repeat arrests for drug possession, white collar crimes, and other stuff like that.

They aren't planning to let murderers and rapists out earlier than they already do.

[Pornwolf]

Very smart move. Most of those people don't need to be in jail with the 'real' offenders anyway. They just learn the real criminal stuff in prison and come out worse than before, especially since they won't be able to get a job when they come out anyway.

[irishfury]

A great move. Most of the population arrested is for drug convictions. I don't support drug use but I don't think people should be sitting in a cell for it.

[funkmaster]

..... asta la vista, baby !!

[media]

I kinda see this as being a good move.. The california legal system is already WAY fucked..

In San Jose, a buddy of mine was arrested for doing some graffiti art, He was in a holding cell with a statitory rapist, the rapist got out of jail befor my friend did, as a matter of fact, 2 months before my friend did.. Pretty fucking pathetic, that someone who comits a sex crime is released before someone who comits vandalism...

Media

[Honeyslut]

Originally posted by charly
Problem will come when they start reoffending and the police do not have the budget to investigate the crimes.

A risky move IMO

Yeap. Let's not let those bad check writers out jail . LOL You do know they stick people in jail for that , eh ?

[Ash@phpFX]

Originally posted by charly
Problem will come when they start reoffending and the police do not have the budget to investigate the crimes.

A risky move IMO

just get arnie back to his terminator days, then you wont need a police force

[Mr.Fiction]

Originally posted by asher


just get arnie back to his terminator days, then you wont need a police force

What about Robocop?

[Yanks_Todd]

Originally posted by media
I kinda see this as being a good move.. The california legal system is already WAY fucked..

In San Jose, a buddy of mine was arrested for doing some graffiti art, He was in a holding cell with a statitory rapist, the rapist got out of jail befor my friend did, as a matter of fact, 2 months before my friend did.. Pretty fucking pathetic, that someone who comits a sex crime is released before someone who comits vandalism...

Media

well that depends, statutory rape, can be an 18yo fucking a 17.9 year old, while your friend ruined some peoples shit, and possilbly something that the actually cared about. What were all the facts?

[Zappu]

Problem will come when they start reoffending and the police do not have the budget to investigate the crimes.

Yes, we will have the sam or better much bigger problem here, when the new EU Countries will join in April

[Paul Markham]

Originally posted by Zappu

Yes, we will have the sam or better much bigger problem here, when the new EU Countries will join in April

Good point at the moment they are stopping people at the borders and turning them back, in a few months the borders willno longer exist.

So all the burgulars, grafiti artists, dud check writers, con artist, drug dealers, drug users, etc. do not take up police time and resources?

[Pornwolf]

To answer that question Charly, it costs around $25,000 per prisoner just to warehouse him in prison. If you have that person working on the street he will be pumping that money himself back into the economy by working. So in total you look to save about $50,000 per person. These people would have to each do some serious crime to take up that amount in resources.

[- AFN -]

Prison should only be for violent felons. The rest should be retrained or do community service and learn "life habits" from volunteers.

Fuck the Correctional Officer lobby...fuckers helping to bankrupt the state.

Originally posted by Mr.Fiction
Convinced that California can no longer afford its $5.3 billion prison and parole system, Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger's administration is exploring moves that would all but eliminate parole conditions for nonviolent, nonserious offenders and eventually -- through early release and lighter penalties -- dramatically shrink the prison population.

Some of the moves result from recent court settlements. Others are efforts whose planning began under former Gov. Gray Davis and have been speeded up by Schwarzenegger.

"Arnold has had us identify the nonviolent, nonthreatening inmates," said one high-ranking corrections official working on some of the proposals. "We could probably cut the (prison) population by a third, which would be a huge savings for taxpayers and give some of these people a chance to be productive citizens again."

http://www.sacbee.com/content/politi...-8949908c.html

On some issues, Arnold is turning out to be more liberal than Davis.

[Trax]

i do not know if i find this cool

[TDF]

let out some of my big homies..word

[Mikey_219Inc]

Fuck yea Governator!!!!

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=212417

Nearly 2 million Americans are incarcerated
In the prison system, prison system,
Prison system of the U.S.

The percentage of Americans in the prison system
Prison system, has doubled since 1985

All research and successful drug policy show
That treatment should be increased,
And law enforcement decreased,
While abolishing mandatory minimum sentences.

(S.0.A.D - Prison Song)

[Carrie]

Originally posted by Pornwolf
To answer that question Charly, it costs around $25,000 per prisoner just to warehouse him in prison. If you have that person working on the street he will be pumping that money himself back into the economy by working. So in total you look to save about $50,000 per person. These people would have to each do some serious crime to take up that amount in resources.

The thought that a convicted drug user, convicted bad check writer, etc could get a job that would pay him $25k per year is ideallic at best, highly laughable in reality.
Closer to the truth is that they get a job making about $10-$12k per year if they're lucky.

[Pornwolf]

Maybe you are right. Some will make that little but that would still put them into the plus side of the economy instead of costing us money.

[Rich]

If the USA let all the pot smokers go they could probably afford half the shit they're spending money on. If they legalized and sold it they could afford all of it.

[NoAngel]

Originally posted by asher


just get arnie back to his terminator days, then you wont need a police force

[- AFN -]

I agree. Most of that mandatory minimum sentences should be abolished. All these do is fill up the prisons with non violent offenders.

Originally posted by Mikey_219Inc
Fuck yea Governator!!!!

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=212417

Nearly 2 million Americans are incarcerated
In the prison system, prison system,
Prison system of the U.S.

The percentage of Americans in the prison system
Prison system, has doubled since 1985

All research and successful drug policy show
That treatment should be increased,
And law enforcement decreased,
While abolishing mandatory minimum sentences.

(S.0.A.D - Prison Song)

[Head]

Originally posted by Mr.Fiction


Some of these people are probably repeat arrests for drug possession, white collar crimes, and other stuff like that.

They aren't planning to let murderers and rapists out earlier than they already do.

Hope not. For your sake. Some will slip by; but over all it's a not bad idea

[p1mpdogg]

sweet

[Morgan]

1/3 of the people in jail are their probably for smoking a joint!

[pornguy]

As much as people dont like to talk about it, how many people are serving time,because of being in the wrong place at the wrong time???

Stopping by a frineds house to say hi, and 2 minutes later DEA and locals server a drug warrant. Should you do 10 to 15 for saying hi to a friend??

[Pornwolf]

I sat in the tank once or twice. Most of the people in there were in for stupid offenses like having a joint, fighting (bar style), or not having ID on them when stopped. That and parking tickets can send you to jail.

[Phoenix]

go arnold


jail is just a breeding ground for more crime


hellif you are smart and resourceful..30 days in even a local jail, you could come out with all thje connections you need to become a major dealer

[Indeed]

good move

[doornx]

small time crumbs indeed, not the big boys o crime

governater sure knows how to work the mind of the people.

Still can't believe he cut the payouts for elderly and handicapped people so the healthy citizens could drive their cars with a little less tax...basterd

[Pornwolf]

Originally posted by doornx

Still can't believe he cut the payouts for elderly and handicapped people so the healthy citizens could drive their cars with a little less tax...basterd

Let em die off quickly so we can save money. Makes sense to me.

[Brad Xtremepay]

Why not just kill the lifers?

[doornx]

Why not kill all the prisoners in a nice gun fire extravaganza..could save some money there also

[Pornwolf]

Originally posted by Brad Xtremepay
Why not just kill the lifers?

Life in prison never made much sense to me either. Unfortunately you have guys who are found innocent thanks to DNA testing 18 years after incarceration.

[Veterans Day]

Arnold will fail miserably, and no most of the prison system isnt filled with "pot smokers" They are filled with crack head users that will cut your throat for their next rock. Arnold took over the biggest shithole in the states, he will get eaten alive, all in due time

[Morgan]

They should have televised pay per view events where lifers are matched up in a cage and have to fight to the death. I would name the show, "Lifer Death".

[Pornwolf]

Originally posted by Ganjasaurus
They should have televised pay per view events where lifers are matched up in a cage and have to fight to the death. I would name the show, "Lifer Death".

Fuck yeah! Or they can call it "The Running Man"



You had to know that one was coming. eheh heh.

[Mr.Fiction]

Originally posted by Pornwolf


Life in prison never made much sense to me either. Unfortunately you have guys who are found innocent thanks to DNA testing 18 years after incarceration.

There will probably be even more of those as they actually get around to doing DNA testing in more and more old cases.

[Brad Xtremepay]

Nah, I don't believe in the death. I was just trying to get a reaction.

[Pornwolf]

Originally posted by Brad Xtremepay
Nah, I don't believe in the death. I was just trying to get a reaction.

So you think it's better to lock a man up for life?

[EscortBiz]

good move other states should follow.

[Morgan]

Originally posted by Pornwolf


Fuck yeah! Or they can call it "The Running Man"



You had to know that one was coming. eheh heh.

Oh shit.. forgot about that. They were prisoners werent they? What a coincidence too! hah

[doornx]

Originally posted by Mr.Fiction


There will probably be even more of those as they actually get around to doing DNA testing in more and more old cases.

bummer that you've already spent most of your days inside

don't want to whip up any racial issues. But it might be that these old cases offered little changes of freedom for some ethnic
minorities due to recial issues.

America isn't always as progressive as they think they are

[Pornwolf]

Don't worry, we know.

[Mikey_219Inc]

Originally posted by Rich
If the USA let all the pot smokers go they could probably afford half the shit they're spending money on. If they legalized and sold it they could afford all of it.

yup ... the war on drugs is pathetic.

george carlin speaks interestingly about this, how we use the word "war" for it ... check it out if you havent heard it, not sure which stand up it is, just rent all of em

[Worldnet]

Good deal! Maybe it will start a trend.

[Brad Xtremepay]

Originally posted by Pornwolf
So you think it's better to lock a man up for life?

Yes. It may be expensive... but death in retaliation for death is just so primative.

[Pornwolf]

And putting a man in a cage where he's no use to his family or the world in general yet costs us hundreds of thousands of dollars isn't backwards?

We have kids starving on the street yet we can lock a man up for life at a cost of $25k a year for the rest of his life. What gives us the right to put a man in a cage for life?

[radical]

go Arnold