Content is already king............ - GoFuckYourself.com

BradShaw · 01-26-2004, 09:32 AM

Amusing to see how many people still do not get that. Cheap penny pinchers still using 1997 Zmaster content.

Few smart people are catching on and will stay above the curve. Just be careful who you hire to produce content for you, I hear horror stories daily.

Joesho · 01-26-2004, 09:42 AM

YOU are absolutly right Brad, so for all you smart webmasters out there,Want something new and freash.... not from the Old school way of thinking.... good news then REJOICE I say!!!you no longer have to be a sheep.....

JoesHO is here to shoot any and all of your needs....

( Iam not real good on the goth thing, but I will give you a fair deal at least)

I will shoot anything solo girl, or girl / girl that you need/want

in fact I am thinking of a European tour soon myself too.... so if you are looking for fresh/ new stuff or High end known models I can do either for you..... but please I said a fair price... not a CHEAP price do not confuse the two!

ICQ 174842541

BradShaw · 01-26-2004, 10:00 AM

As I have said, be careful who you deal with when hiring people to shoot content. Experience counts as do references.

Paul Markham · 01-26-2004, 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by BradShaw
As I have said, be careful who you deal with when hiring people to shoot content. Experience counts as do references.

Curriculum Vitae

Been shooting porn since 1977.
Been full time self employed since 1988
Shot for magazines such as; Club, Mayfair, Barely Legal, Tight, Just 18, Chic, Cheri, Men Only, Hawk, Live Young Girls. Seventeen, plus many others.
Created and ran a porn video mail order in the UK for 7 years.
Has a 3,000 square feet fully equipped studio.
Does not suffer fools gladly
Is considered successful by his peers.

Witty, charming and an arrogant ass.

Forgot to add, can be found via ICQ, telephone or you can actually visit the studio. The address is visible on the sites.

Tofu · 01-26-2004, 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Joesho

in fact I am thinking of a European tour soon myself too.... so if you are looking for fresh/ new stuff or High end known models I can do either for you..... but please I said a fair price... not a CHEAP price do not confuse the two!

ICQ 174842541

you shoot fat girls?

KraZ · 01-26-2004, 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by charly

Curriculum Vitae

Been shooting porn since 1977.
Been full time self employed since 1988
Shot for magazines such as; Club, Mayfair, Barely Legal, Tight, Just 18, Chic, Cheri, Men Only, Hawk, Live Young Girls. Seventeen, plus many others.
Created and ran a porn video mail order in the UK for 7 years.
Has a 3,000 square feet fully equipped studio.
Does not suffer fools gladly
Is considered successful by his peers.

Witty, charming and an arrogant ass.

Ditto.

No, I'm just joking

I'm a newcomer but I work twice as hard - does that count?

Also, I have beautiful, teen models that work exclusively with me:

dantheman · 01-26-2004, 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by BradShaw
As I have said, be careful who you deal with when hiring people to shoot content. Experience counts as do references.

true, check the button, 25 years of experince working for you

JOKER · 01-26-2004, 10:37 AM

Joe is one of the honest guys I know out there.

His work is outstanding.

He knows more girls to work with than I could ever imagine and they love him and to work with him

If you need a job done,I can recommend you Joe Jekel without one single doubt.

This guy is a class act.

Take care,
JOKER

HeadPimp · 01-26-2004, 10:40 AM

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Has a 3,000 square feet fully equipped studio.

Damn... This white boy is envious...

Joesho · 01-26-2004, 10:41 AM

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Originally posted by Tofu-Adult.com

you shoot fat girls?

Hell YES I love the bigguns.....

BradShaw · 01-26-2004, 10:46 AM

My studio is in a closet. But it works.

basschick · 01-26-2004, 10:51 AM

brad, i couldn't agree more! content=retention. always keep your members looking forward to the next update because they liked all the others.

makefuckingmoney · 01-26-2004, 10:55 AM

I sail cheap content and low icqs.

RichC · 01-26-2004, 10:58 AM

Traffic is king.... always has, and always will be.

kmanrox · 01-26-2004, 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by BradShaw
Amusing to see how many people still do not get that. Cheap penny pinchers still using 1997 Zmaster content.

Few smart people are catching on and will stay above the curve. Just be careful who you hire to produce content for you, I hear horror stories daily.

your signature brags about your 'penny' pictures.... are you that ig'nant?

DeanCapture · 01-26-2004, 11:16 AM

15 years of experience here! And available for shoots in and around the San Diego area.

References include:

J. Stephen Hicks (Penthouse Photographer)
Oliver Klozov
MacAndBumble

'nuf said

d*

12clicks · 01-26-2004, 11:17 AM

traffic is king. always will be.

kmanrox · 01-26-2004, 11:18 AM

dean capture rocks!! one of the best around!

consider this thread...

JACKED!

BradShaw · 01-26-2004, 11:21 AM

FYI, video is an entirely different beast. There is shooting it, then getting it online. I would not hire anyone who can now show me ALOT of quality work. Custom photo is going way of dinosaur.

Paul Markham · 01-26-2004, 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by RichC
Traffic is king.... always has, and always will be.

I agree 101%

This is assuming you create the traffic rather than merely redirecting it.

What starts the traffic moving, show them when they arrive, what turns them from a click to a sign up and how do we make sure they don't cancel or refund. Finally what makes the guy renew?

Traffic will always be there as long as guys want to wank and we present them with porn. Take all the porn off the net and the traffic will stop coming.

Mutt · 01-26-2004, 11:21 AM

it's raining exclusive custom content!

MarcoP and Wanton - if you know anything about the teen niche, you'll know the names and you'll definitely know the content.

can also do reality movies, anal, dp, A2M, throat gaggers, interracial, asians, sybian, masturbations, fetishes - pretty much anything.

[email protected]

BradShaw · 01-26-2004, 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by kmanrox
dean capture rocks!! one of the best around!

consider this thread...

JACKED!

Dean, I would love to see samples of your video reality stuff? Can you post some urls?

Kman, be polite. Let the little asian boy get on the computer now. Was not nice of you to jack his pc at the internet cafe

Mutt · 01-26-2004, 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by BradShaw
FYI, video is an entirely different beast. There is shooting it, then getting it online. I would not hire anyone who can now show me ALOT of quality work. Custom photo is going way of dinosaur.

the FreshPhotos photog has almost left adult completely, but he's doing very well in another area of photography. adapt or perish.

BradShaw · 01-26-2004, 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by RichC
Traffic is king.... always has, and always will be.

Agreed. Content helps though.

Paul Markham · 01-26-2004, 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by BradShaw
FYI, video is an entirely different beast. There is shooting it, then getting it online. I would not hire anyone who can now show me ALOT of quality work. Custom photo is going way of dinosaur.

The future will be interesting for video, firstly the Acacia situation, then what will happen to all the video shooters when the Porn Video mainstream wake up to this market.

BradShaw · 01-26-2004, 11:30 AM

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Porn Video mainstream wake up to this market.

They are idiots. I am always impressed with their lack of professionalism when I see them in Vegas. I am not worried about them.

12clicks · 01-26-2004, 11:30 AM

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Originally posted by charly
I agree 101%

This is assuming you create the traffic rather than merely redirecting it.

No, it makes no difference.

Quote:

Originally posted by charly
Take all the porn off the net and the traffic will stop coming.

yup, the only reason people are on the net is porn

DeanCapture · 01-26-2004, 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by BradShaw
Dean, I would love to see samples of your video reality stuff? Can you post some urls?

I haven't shot any video reality stuff. I guess that means I have no future in this biz

I've been a still shooter for 15 years - it's my passion, it's what I live for, it's my strength. I have shot some video and have been quite happy with the results, but it's not something that I specialize in or care to focus on right now.

It's a broadband world out there and more and more people are logging on to watch movies. But I still think there will always be a need for stills.

d*

Mutt · 01-26-2004, 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by charly
The future will be interesting for video, firstly the Acacia situation, then what will happen to all the video shooters when the Porn Video mainstream wake up to this market.

it's happening now, see http://www.meatcash.com

but most are still focused on their core biz of producing content for retail and other markets. most do not have the resources or time to do both the Internet and the traditional movie biz. Some are deciding the Net offers more promise and are putting their energies into it.

only certain movie content works well on the Net. Features don't, people want hardcore extreme gonzo on the Net not with plot lines and dialogue and lame plots and acting. just balls to the wall hardcore. if it's got a reality angle to it that's better.

studios are starting to make nice money via PPV streaming and VOD Downloads. it's a good time to be a movie studio that is cranking out gonzo.

BradShaw · 01-26-2004, 11:34 AM

There will always be some demand for stills. As Mutt said Fresh Photos photographer has moved out of adult, he could not make $. And he was pretty good...... He was not able to adapt with video, he was a still guy, and still is.

dig420 · 01-26-2004, 11:35 AM

it's not the content, it's how you package it on your tour.

surfers don't recognize and don't care about new girls.

DeanCapture · 01-26-2004, 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by BradShaw
There will always be some demand for stills. As Mutt said Fresh Photos photographer has moved out of adult, he could not make $. And he was pretty good...... He was not able to adapt with video, he was a still guy, and still is.

I have a lot of respect for this photographer whoever he is. It shows that he's a photographer because he loves shooting and NOT because he just wants to get fucked (like a lot of shooters that I know in this business).

Here's to you Mr. Fresh Photos Photographer

d*

Mutt · 01-26-2004, 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by DeanCapture

I haven't shot any video reality stuff. I guess that means I have no future in this biz

I've been a still shooter for 15 years - it's my passion, it's what I live for, it's my strength. I have shot some video and have been quite happy with the results, but it's not something that I specialize in or care to focus on right now.

It's a broadband world out there and more and more people are logging on to watch movies. But I still think there will always be a need for stills.

d*

There will always be fans of still photography Dean

but on the Web, there has got to be a video that goes along with the photosets - tease video, solo toy, behind the scenes, interview - doesn't have to be hardcore but you have to have some moving pictures to support the stills.

DeanCapture · 01-26-2004, 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by dig420
it's not the content, it's how you package it on your tour.

surfers don't recognize and don't care about new girls.

What about retention?

d*

Paul Markham · 01-26-2004, 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by 12clicks

yup, the only reason people are on the net is porn

So why else do people surf the adult Internet, sign up to sites, renew? Because you gave them a link to an empty site?

If you could create the traffic you would be clever, merely redirecting someone who's already got his dick in his hand is not exactly rocket science.

BVF · 01-26-2004, 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by charly
what will happen to all the video shooters when the Porn Video mainstream wake up to this market.

It's 2004. They should have gotten on the ball around 2000. There is no way in HELL a strictly retail video producer could come in and compete with video shooters who have done nothing but internet video for years.

12clicks · 01-26-2004, 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by charly
So why else do people surf the adult Internet, sign up to sites, renew? Because you gave them a link to an empty site?

oh wait, now its the "adult internet". Nice way to sidestep a dopey statement.
here's the original:
"""Take all the porn off the net and the traffic will stop coming."""

Quote:

Originally posted by charly
If you could create the traffic you would be clever, merely redirecting someone who's already got his dick in his hand is not exactly rocket science.

says the guy who wouldn't know rocket science if it hit him in the ass.

Paul Markham · 01-26-2004, 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 12clicks

oh wait, now its the "adult internet". Nice way to sidestep a dopey statement.
here's the original:
"""Take all the porn off the net and the traffic will stop coming."""

says the guy who wouldn't know rocket science if it hit him in the ass.

Only an idiot would think we were talking about the mainstream Internet on a porn board chatting about a porn subject. Or do I have to spell it out for the lesser educated?

If the hat fits wear it.

Says the guy who wouldn't know his arse from an ass. Thats a kind of donkey.

RichC · 01-26-2004, 12:14 PM

rocket science in action

http://www.wife.com

billing solutions, content, etc. ... merely part of a king's army.

VirtuMike · 01-26-2004, 12:24 PM

Content is king?

To be more accurate, MY content is king. Pay tribute. You can't sell a product without the product.

12clicks says traffic is king? He's partially right. You can't do a fucking thing without the traffic.

BILLING IS KING. You cannot pay for content or pay for traffic without an effective efficient billing mechanism.

Sucks that we have three kings.

12clicks · 01-26-2004, 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by charly
Only an idiot would think we were talking about the mainstream Internet on a porn board chatting about a porn subject. Or do I have to spell it out for the lesser educated?

If the hat fits wear it.

Says the guy who wouldn't know his arse from an ass. Thats a kind of donkey.

nice comeback.
I figured you'd have bragged about your 3000 sq ft studio again.

"no, no. when I said internet, I only meant *adult* internet.
In my country it means the same thing"

RichC · 01-26-2004, 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by VirtuMike
Content is king?

To be more accurate, MY content is king. Pay tribute. You can't sell a product without the product.

12clicks says traffic is king? He's partially right. You can't do a fucking thing without the traffic.

BILLING IS KING. You cannot pay for content or pay for traffic without an effective efficient billing mechanism.

Sucks that we have three kings.

Ask this guy if he gives a fuck about billing or content....
To live life and never have to worry about such things.
Traffic is King Kong in this mother fucker.

http://www.wife.com

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 01-26-2004, 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BradShaw
My studio is in a closet. But it works.

You mean in Canada

12clicks · 01-26-2004, 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by RichC

Ask this guy if he gives a fuck about billing or content....

I don't.

BradShaw · 01-26-2004, 12:59 PM

In the end, if you had not made your retirement $ yet, good luck. Anything from here n out is gravy for those who know what I am talking about.

Joesho · 01-26-2004, 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BradShaw

They are idiots. I am always impressed with their lack of professionalism when I see them in Vegas. I am not worried about them.

you call yourself a professional, but yet you always get down in the gutter yourself when profesionalism, and handling ones self is the issue,... i.e KB come to mind?

you keep not worrying there big guy!!! but remember the toes you step on today just might be attached to the ass you will have to kiss one day......

here is another one for you..... " you better pet the dog while he is a puppy, or he might grow up and eat YOU!"

IPK · 01-26-2004, 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by makefuckingmoney
I sail cheap content and low icqs.

haha i love short icq uin references

Paul Markham · 01-26-2004, 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BradShaw
In the end, if you had not made your retirement $ yet, good luck. Anything from here n out is gravy for those who know what I am talking about.

I'd made my retirement £££ back in 1998, then Eva walked into my life and the beach in Thailand was put on hold.

Money is not everything, I could be penniless today and would still be happier than most guys.

12clicks if you knew what I paid for the studio then you would be really mad.

Mr.Fiction · 01-26-2004, 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 12clicks

yup, the only reason people are on the net is porn

Of the $450 million European Internet users spent on the Web in 2001, 70 percent went to various porn sites, the report said.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...e_crime_eu_sex

That report might not be accurate, but if it's even close, a lot of people are on the internet for porn.

SleazyDream · 01-26-2004, 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BradShaw
Custom photo is going way of dinosaur.

very true

01-26-2004, 09:32 AM	#1
BradShaw Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: KB's trailer Posts: 7,840	Content is already king............ Amusing to see how many people still do not get that. Cheap penny pinchers still using 1997 Zmaster content. Few smart people are catching on and will stay above the curve. Just be careful who you hire to produce content for you, I hear horror stories daily. __________________ Sig too big http://www.gofuckyourself.com/gfy_faqs.html Want to use a large banner in your sig??? Contact Eric about getting on as an advertiser - eric AT adult.com

01-26-2004, 09:42 AM	#2
Joesho want to get in shape Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: on the lake Posts: 12,329	YOU are absolutly right Brad, so for all you smart webmasters out there,Want something new and freash.... not from the Old school way of thinking.... good news then REJOICE I say!!!you no longer have to be a sheep..... JoesHO is here to shoot any and all of your needs.... ( Iam not real good on the goth thing, but I will give you a fair deal at least) I will shoot anything solo girl, or girl / girl that you need/want in fact I am thinking of a European tour soon myself too.... so if you are looking for fresh/ new stuff or High end known models I can do either for you..... but please I said a fair price... not a CHEAP price do not confuse the two! ICQ 174842541 __________________ Got any domains to sell? I proudly host all my stuff at www.rackco.com

01-26-2004, 10:00 AM	#3
BradShaw Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: KB's trailer Posts: 7,840	As I have said, be careful who you deal with when hiring people to shoot content. Experience counts as do references. __________________ Sig too big http://www.gofuckyourself.com/gfy_faqs.html Want to use a large banner in your sig??? Contact Eric about getting on as an advertiser - eric AT adult.com

01-26-2004, 10:37 AM	#8
JOKER Facit Omnia Voluntas Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Offshore Posts: 2,105	Joe is one of the honest guys I know out there. His work is outstanding. He knows more girls to work with than I could ever imagine and they love him and to work with him If you need a job done,I can recommend you Joe Jekel without one single doubt. This guy is a class act. Take care, JOKER __________________ Facilitation - BizDev - Traffic - Consulting - Marketing Skype: jokerempire \| Silent Circle: joker

01-26-2004, 10:46 AM	#11
BradShaw Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: KB's trailer Posts: 7,840	My studio is in a closet. But it works. __________________ Sig too big http://www.gofuckyourself.com/gfy_faqs.html Want to use a large banner in your sig??? Contact Eric about getting on as an advertiser - eric AT adult.com

01-26-2004, 10:51 AM	#12
basschick Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: el lay, ca usa Posts: 2,540	brad, i couldn't agree more! content=retention. always keep your members looking forward to the next update because they liked all the others. __________________ Got Gay and For Women Traffic?

01-26-2004, 10:55 AM	#13
makefuckingmoney Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 3,277	I sail cheap content and low icqs.

01-26-2004, 10:58 AM	#14
RichC Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: by ocean Posts: 368	Traffic is king.... always has, and always will be. __________________ I brought the flutes this time

01-26-2004, 11:16 AM	#16
DeanCapture Haters & Trolls SUCK! Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 9,275	15 years of experience here! And available for shoots in and around the San Diego area. References include: J. Stephen Hicks (Penthouse Photographer) Oliver Klozov MacAndBumble 'nuf said d* __________________ Twitter: @DeanCapture Instagram: @TheDeanCapture DeanCapture "at" Gmail.com

01-26-2004, 11:17 AM	#17
12clicks Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: God's right hand Posts: 19,789	traffic is king. always will be. __________________ I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

01-26-2004, 11:18 AM	#18
kmanrox aka K-Man Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: The Gutter Posts: 29,292	dean capture rocks!! one of the best around! consider this thread... JACKED! __________________ Crypto HODLr Crypto mining Angel investor

01-26-2004, 11:21 AM	#19
BradShaw Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: KB's trailer Posts: 7,840	FYI, video is an entirely different beast. There is shooting it, then getting it online. I would not hire anyone who can now show me ALOT of quality work. Custom photo is going way of dinosaur. __________________ Sig too big http://www.gofuckyourself.com/gfy_faqs.html Want to use a large banner in your sig??? Contact Eric about getting on as an advertiser - eric AT adult.com

01-26-2004, 11:21 AM	#21
Mutt Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 34,431	it's raining exclusive custom content! MarcoP and Wanton - if you know anything about the teen niche, you'll know the names and you'll definitely know the content. can also do reality movies, anal, dp, A2M, throat gaggers, interracial, asians, sybian, masturbations, fetishes - pretty much anything. [email protected] __________________ I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly!

01-26-2004, 11:34 AM	#30
BradShaw Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: KB's trailer Posts: 7,840	There will always be some demand for stills. As Mutt said Fresh Photos photographer has moved out of adult, he could not make $. And he was pretty good...... He was not able to adapt with video, he was a still guy, and still is. __________________ Sig too big http://www.gofuckyourself.com/gfy_faqs.html Want to use a large banner in your sig??? Contact Eric about getting on as an advertiser - eric AT adult.com

01-26-2004, 11:35 AM	#31
dig420 Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 9,240	it's not the content, it's how you package it on your tour. surfers don't recognize and don't care about new girls.

01-26-2004, 12:14 PM	#39
RichC Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: by ocean Posts: 368	rocket science in action http://www.wife.com billing solutions, content, etc. ... merely part of a king's army. __________________ I brought the flutes this time

01-26-2004, 12:24 PM	#40
VirtuMike Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Seat 1A Posts: 2,483	Content is king? To be more accurate, MY content is king. Pay tribute. You can't sell a product without the product. 12clicks says traffic is king? He's partially right. You can't do a fucking thing without the traffic. BILLING IS KING. You cannot pay for content or pay for traffic without an effective efficient billing mechanism. Sucks that we have three kings. __________________ Host it in AMSTERDAM at EUROTIVITY! - We also offer BACKUP SERVICES! XYZZY4L

01-26-2004, 12:59 PM	#45
BradShaw Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: KB's trailer Posts: 7,840	In the end, if you had not made your retirement $ yet, good luck. Anything from here n out is gravy for those who know what I am talking about. __________________ Sig too big http://www.gofuckyourself.com/gfy_faqs.html Want to use a large banner in your sig??? Contact Eric about getting on as an advertiser - eric AT adult.com