stocktrader23

Seems a lot of people have disappeared in the last 5 or 6 months. Think the falling dollar could have put some smaller webmasters out of biz?

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whee

Still counting...

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buddyjuf

Im doing better than ever

riosluts

especially for canadian webmasters. 1 US dollar used to be $1.55, and now its only about $1.28, it makes a big difference if you dealing with hundreds of dollars.

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Dirty F

I know if i would earn less that the dollar wouldve killed me.
For people who just earn enough to pay their rent and food losing 25% or more can be the reason to leave the biz i think.

polish_aristocrat

who disappeared ?

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Dirty F

Anyway, i pity no one...the strongest survive. The more people leave the more money i make. You dont have to be an Einstein to make money in this biz. So the people who cant make it are doing something wrong for sure.

Paraskass

tell me about it.
I feel the difference and I'm not even a big time webmaster.

I used to deposit 400$ US and have like 600$ in my account, now I deposit 400$ US and have something like 510$ it's gay.

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stocktrader23

I'm not talking about established programs. Seems truckloads of newer / smaller guys are gone now. Hell, just a few months ago there were 5 or so "spam me with hosting" and "spam me with CCBill sponsors" a day. Now it's odd to see 1. Just a couple of examples I've noticed. Also been a ton of small sites for sale lately from people taking off.

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"I try to make a habit of bouncing my eyes up to the face of a beautiful woman, and often repeat “not mine” in my head or even verbally. She’s not mine. God has her set aside. She’s not mine. She’s His little girl, and she needs me to fight for her by keeping my eyes where they should be."

Dirty F

I used to deposit 1000 dollars and get 2500 guilders.
Now with the Euro not only prices doubled in Holland but 1000 dollars only is about 810 Euros.

Its fucking pathetic. You can easily say people living here have to make twice as much now compared to 2 years ago to live the same style they did before.

This is a process that normally takes 20 years or more but we experienced it in just 2 or 3 years.

polish_aristocrat

i know you weren't talking about big programs...
but still, any examples, nicknames etc?
still tons of new ppl register here and still there are some "spam me with... " threads

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stocktrader23

There are some but a few months ago this looked like a freakin circus.

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Ic3m4nZ

It sucks the currency but you learn to live with that .. when I go in the US now it's way less expensive it's like on a side it's not good but on the other side it's good for me.

ldinternet

!!!!!!

Basic_man

Maybe..!,

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riosluts

hopefully the rate will slowly rise up to 1.5. Back in 1990 the same thing happened, the rate went as slow as 1.15 and a few months later it went back up.

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fuzebox

Yes, it sucks

frank7799

It´s all about traffic, isn´t it?

HarlotCash Dyker

The fall of the dollar, at first, was pretty frustrating - But it made me think.
I optimised several parts of my biz and took on more submitters etc - It has made a huge difference.
I haven't cashed a single dollar for months - I can wait for that - Once the dollar gets back to its former glory, I will make bank!

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AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE

Saturation man.

People can make more money collecting aluminum cans for recycling.

Only a few at the top are makin any money these days and by no means are profits higher than they were just 1 year ago for them.

Honest...

Its done.
If your new to the business your toast you aint gonna make it and you outah consider adult biz a hobby.

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stocktrader23

You are so lost sometimes it's not even funny.

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AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE

To add to my previous post there are exceptions...

1: Ya get some guy with bling who will finance your business vnture. But hey even there your leveraged and fighting over a few penny's a month.

2: You turn to unscrupulous means to make money. Be a spammer, be a password trader, hack CC Databases, steal content, hustle people and be a con artist.

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AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE

Had enough of your shit...
Your an idiot.

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stocktrader23

No you're an idiot. If you can't figure out how easy this biz really is compared to most anything else you have no buisness being here. Of course people crash and burn, the idiots always do. Nobody with half a brain really puts an effort into adult and fails. Just seems the idiots are dying faster than usual.

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teomaxxx

there are still less and less free traffic from TGPs for newbies especially Lot of us started here - i am really glad that i dont have to live from this kind of traffic nowadays and it makes me more bucks too.

stocktrader23

I've never had to live from that traffic but that isn't the point. In comparison to damn near any other business the entry into adult is still shit. A good week of reading and a brain and you are good to go with a few hundred for expenses. AlienQ commented that nobody should jump in the biz now cause they'll fail, it just isn't true.

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AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE

Let me tell somthing guy...

You really are a fuckin moron. I been around since day one...
Before there were KB's, D$'s and Brad Shaws and the Marc D's...
I seen the proof many many times that the Adult Industry is fucking toast with saturation, theft and a majority of people about as disfunctional as fucken John Wayn Bobbits marriage.

The industry is changing and ever changing and the profits are getting shorter as every girl steps in front of a camara from CA to fucken Siberia and with that the dollar is spread the same way.

You wanna tell people they got a shot just getting in? They aint got a fucken chance to be a big name. Stop the madness and be honest for once with new people tell em to get the fuck out cuz they will be waisting there money.
Contacts mean everything in this biz if ya aint got none your going no where. PERIOD.

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stocktrader23

Contacts mean fuck all. I made good coin for years without ever talking to another webmaster and I could easily do it all again.

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quiet

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AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE

Yeah keep drinking bro your gonna need it when the reality sets in.

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AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE

Contacts mean fuck all? OMG please stop!

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stocktrader23

May I ask how one becomes so utterly stupid? Have you been this way your whole life? Did it just hit you one day? Was it a gradual decline into ignorance?

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Trax

if kids would stop building tgps they would maybe earn money

Dirty F

Dude, there are so many webmasters making so much money without ever talking to anyone. For someone whos been here since day one you lack a lot of information.

stocktrader23

Exactly what I said.

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stocktrader23

Did you quote the wrong person Bat? Cause it looks like you agree with me.

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quiet

no shit. and i think you meant to quote someone else.

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stocktrader23

AlienQ argues with anything I say. He's a big shot designer with no portfolio who invented half the shit on the web but nobody will back him up on it. Odd because he's worked with most every big company from what he says.

What was that you invented Alien? Scrolling tours? I forget all your masterpieces there are so many.

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Dirty F

Yeah it was aimed at Aliendickhead.

Ironhorse

I think some of this might be seasonal? Having to do with college kids going back to school and whatnot and I'm not referring to them as surfers but trying to get jobs etc.

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AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE

Ok let me put it this way...

I get by.
I buy keywords I go PPC.
I submit galleries.
I create websites.
I consult.

I do everything by the book till I start getting fucked.

Its idiot ilk that think this shit is easy when its not by no means and the effort per dollar is far greater than most other occupations and it gets tougher month by month.

Its true that one can make more money at Mc Donald's for the majority of neophytes comming into the business.

If you like telling newbies comming in and this shit is easy and you can be just like the Elite's your so full shit it is unbelievable.

Hardwork in other fields will yield higher amounts of money.
Thats bottom line.

Effort to dollar your fucken working like a son of bitch in the adult industry when ya can be making 3 times more doing somthing else.

Adult net is only a vertical market on paper when viewed in a large scale however the money is distributing to a Massive number of people. EVERYONE does this shit now, well any girl or guy with a decent body a camara.

Keep the reality of the situation in perspective for the new guys and girls comming in. Do not be deluded into believing your gonna be an elite. Odd's are you wont. Odd's are ya never had a chance to begin with.

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You are an imbecile. Really.
Ya are.
Wake up.

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stocktrader23

WTF is elite? I give 2 shits about being elite. I don't rely on anyone for my main business and never will. This aint the mob, I don't need connections to run a successful biz. It won't hurt my feelings one bit if you never know who I am or what I have done. You concern me 0.

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Jellybeen

You can't judge a thing by the new nicks being registered. Consider the number of people having nicks banned who have to make new nicks. Consider the dozens, even hundreds of nicks that the "regulars" register in order to post anonymously and cause drama here.
Hell, just ask Boneprone how many nicknames he's got in his back pocket for a rainy day, and he adds more all the time.

Theo

Many people do not have place in this industry. They are real parasites. No tears from my end when they go.

stocktrader23

Well, they don't have a place in any business really. Some people were cursed with having to work a job for the rest of their life, some weren't. I was just making an observation of the drastic decline in deals being done lately and trying to make sense of the cause.

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Jellybeen

Stock you and I are agreeing again.
We've gotta stop this. ;)

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE

Ya mean zero here as well wannabe...
I am demonstrating to the newbies that by all means it is true that the industry is growing all the while faultering financially.

Your ignoring the principals of economy and the laws of supply and demand. The law basics reads if everyone is doing it then the commodities value is compromised for lesser values.

You go on and be a hustler, go on keep telling people they got a chance while you take there money laughing to the bank.

Ya can not lie that ya stand alone making money all by your little self! HAhahah! The infrastructure requires you to yield investment for a ROI!
So don't go and fucken lie about how great you are.
Please.

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