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Old 08-06-2004, 02:41 AM   #1
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The REAL viagra company suing 25 companies who spammed "fake" viagra

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http://www.pfizer.com/are/news_relea...2004_0803.html

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The lawsuits filed all allege unlawful conduct involving trademark infringement and dilution and unfair competition under both federal and state law as well as deceptive trade practices in violation of New York state law. The Complaints also allege that the defendants are selling and importing non-FDA approved sildenafil citrate in violation of U.S. law, including the Federal Food, Drug and Cosmetic Act.

Pfizer Inc is filing lawsuits against the following 5 entities/individuals:

ORIONTECH, a foreign entity, and DOES 1-10 (www.viagraxonline.com)
YOU SAVE RX, an Entity Doing Business in New York and DOES 1-10 (www.yousaverx.com)
CNR INTERNATIONAL, INC., a Foreign Corporation, and DOES 1-10 (www.qualitygenerics.com)
CHARLES WILLIAM NARON, an individual d/b/a MY RX FOR LESS (www.myrxforless.com)
DOUG HOLLENBECK, an individual d/b/a GENERIC VIAGRAPILLS.COM (www.genericviagrapills.com)
Uniform Domain Name Dispute Resolution Policy (UDRP)
More than two dozen UDRP actions were filed to seize domain names using Pfizer's Viagra trademark in an unauthorized manner. Each alleges that the respondents are using the Viagra mark in bad faith to sell product that has not been approved by the U.S. FDA.

www.12viagra.com
www.1dollarviagra.com
www.1viagra.com
www.1viagrastore.com
www.1viagrastore.net
www.best4viagra.com
www.buy-generic-viagra-sildenafil-citrate.biz
www.buy-generic-viagra-sildenafil-citrate.com
www.cheap-generic-viagra-online.net
www.egenericviagra.com
www.firstgeneric-viagra.com
www.genericviagraforsale.com
www.generic-viagra-online.com
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www.lowest-viagra.com
www.shopgenericviagra.com
www.viagra-discussion-board.com
www.viagra-generic.com
www.viagra-generic.org
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Old 08-06-2004, 02:43 AM   #2
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Old 08-06-2004, 02:54 AM   #5
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Article here

http://www.pfizer.com/are/news_relea...2004_0803.html

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IPE Civil Action
The lawsuits filed all allege unlawful conduct involving trademark infringement and dilution and unfair competition under both federal and state law as well as deceptive trade practices in violation of New York state law. The Complaints also allege that the defendants are selling and importing non-FDA approved sildenafil citrate in violation of U.S. law, including the Federal Food, Drug and Cosmetic Act.

Pfizer Inc is filing lawsuits against the following 5 entities/individuals:

ORIONTECH, a foreign entity, and DOES 1-10 (www.viagraxonline.com)
YOU SAVE RX, an Entity Doing Business in New York and DOES 1-10 (www.yousaverx.com)
CNR INTERNATIONAL, INC., a Foreign Corporation, and DOES 1-10 (www.qualitygenerics.com)
CHARLES WILLIAM NARON, an individual d/b/a MY RX FOR LESS (www.myrxforless.com)
DOUG HOLLENBECK, an individual d/b/a GENERIC VIAGRAPILLS.COM (www.genericviagrapills.com)
Uniform Domain Name Dispute Resolution Policy (UDRP)
More than two dozen UDRP actions were filed to seize domain names using Pfizer's Viagra trademark in an unauthorized manner. Each alleges that the respondents are using the Viagra mark in bad faith to sell product that has not been approved by the U.S. FDA.

www.12viagra.com
www.1dollarviagra.com
www.1viagra.com
www.1viagrastore.com
www.1viagrastore.net
www.best4viagra.com
www.buy-generic-viagra-sildenafil-citrate.biz
www.buy-generic-viagra-sildenafil-citrate.com
www.cheap-generic-viagra-online.net
www.egenericviagra.com
www.firstgeneric-viagra.com
www.genericviagraforsale.com
www.generic-viagra-online.com
www.genericviagra.com
www.genericviagra.info
www.generic-viagra.net
www.generic-viagra.org
www.genericviagrapills.info
www.genericviagrapills.net
www.lowest-viagra.com
www.shopgenericviagra.com
www.viagra-discussion-board.com
www.viagra-generic.com
www.viagra-generic.org
www.viagragenerics.net
no offense, but get our facts straight. I can promise you 95% of those urls were fulfilling through legit pharmacies.
pfizer has a big hard-on for generics. But FACT dictates that it is perfectly legal to import drugs from overseas so long as it is for personal use.


Its the DUMBFUCK spammers who put this on pfizers radar. The funny thing is its not a patent infringement so long as the product doesnt originate from the USA.

Its a great case of slander, considering the generics are often far more effective than the brand.

ICANN will swipe all those domains in pfizers favor. One of them converts at 1:2
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Old 08-06-2004, 03:05 AM   #6
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no offense, but get our facts straight. I can promise you 95% of those urls were fulfilling through legit pharmacies.
pfizer has a big hard-on for generics. But FACT dictates that it is perfectly legal to import drugs from overseas so long as it is for personal use.


Its the DUMBFUCK spammers who put this on pfizers radar. The funny thing is its not a patent infringement so long as the product doesnt originate from the USA.

Its a great case of slander, considering the generics are often far more effective than the brand.

ICANN will swipe all those domains in pfizers favor. One of them converts at 1:2
I assume you mean YOUR facts straight?
Anyway, even when those companies are legit, looks like the word VIAGRA is copyrighted/trademarkerd whatever, so you can not use that in your URL. All those last urls'did have that.
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no offense, but get our facts straight. I can promise you 95% of those urls were fulfilling through legit pharmacies.
pfizer has a big hard-on for generics. But FACT dictates that it is perfectly legal to import drugs from overseas so long as it is for personal use.


Its the DUMBFUCK spammers who put this on pfizers radar. The funny thing is its not a patent infringement so long as the product doesnt originate from the USA.

Its a great case of slander, considering the generics are often far more effective than the brand.

ICANN will swipe all those domains in pfizers favor. One of them converts at 1:2
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pfizer has a big hard-on for generics. But FACT dictates that it is perfectly legal to import drugs from overseas so long as it is for personal use.
uh no it's not legal to import generics from overseas. There are no FDA approved generics for viagra because it is still on patent.
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I assume you mean YOUR facts straight?
Anyway, even when those companies are legit, looks like the word VIAGRA is copyrighted/trademarkerd whatever, so you can not use that in your URL. All those last urls'did have that.
um, no. study up on patent law, Pfizer has nothing except for ICANN. The patent does not extend overseas. Pfizer tried to bully its way into several asian countries and they were told to GFY.
Pfizer is suing people that post here that 100% desreve it. There is no long term success strategy in ripping people off. Other honest people end up in the croshairs over this shit.


back to the domains, pfizer is simply slandering for PR. You really believe these people will get sued if outside the US.

It is NOT against the law to import personal use qty's of non-controlled drugs into the USA.
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uh no it's not legal to import generics from overseas. There are no FDA approved generics for viagra because it is still on patent.
care to wager?
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um, no. study up on patent law, Pfizer has nothing except for ICANN. The patent does not extend overseas. Pfizer tried to bully its way into several asian countries and they were told to GFY.
Pfizer is suing people that post here that 100% desreve it. There is no long term success strategy in ripping people off. Other honest people end up in the croshairs over this shit.


back to the domains, pfizer is simply slandering for PR. You really believe these people will get sued if outside the US.

It is NOT against the law to import personal use qty's of non-controlled drugs into the USA.
but what about teh domain names? Using the name Viagra in your url is no problem?
(no idea myself just reading in to this)
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but what about teh domain names? Using the name Viagra in your url is no problem?
(no idea myself just reading in to this)
URL is a prob due to ICANN. check out www.wipo.int go to search. pfizer has never lost. However, that does not make manufacturing a generic version of viagra and importing it into the usa illegal. Far from it. Its almost encouraged.


our domain converted at 1:2 and now we have to bow to pfizer even though we did nothing legally wrong
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this is good, im so sick and tierd of all viagra spam
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this is good, im so sick and tierd of all viagra spam
its good, but a lot of people got caught in the middle. 3 of those urls belong to irresponsible gfy members who take it as a joke.

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i have a few right here. My partner thought he was getting real stuff from his friend but it wasnt. it looked the same but has a Z on one side. I took one before a shoot and it did nothing. I took another one and I began to see vivid blue trails, almost like i was tripping. I got sick and began to vomit. Needless to say it did nothing for my erection. The next day I got some real viagra and re did the shoot and it worked amazing. Be careful of that fake shit!
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care to wager?
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yes.
ok, Ill begin at $25,000.00.

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uh no it's not legal to import generics from overseas. There are no FDA approved generics for viagra because it is still on patent.
and I will also assume that by saying "generics" we are referring to the chemical equivilant of patented prescription drugs in the USA.

Lets make this easier. Pfizers patent for viagra in the US expires in 2011. So, you are stating that someone who imports sildenafil citrate in personal use quantities is illegal. Meaning, a licensed pharmacy overseas ships to the consumer in the USA.

care to continue?
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FDA Authority

The types of unlawful conduct that can occur when drugs are sold over the Internet are similar to unlawful activities that occur in other contexts. Under the FD&C Act, FDA has the legal authority to take action against:

* The sale, distribution or importation of an adulterated or misbranded drug;
* The sale, distribution or importation of an unapproved new drug;
* The sale or dispensing of a prescription drug without a valid prescription; and
* Counterfeit drugs.
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and I will also assume that by saying "generics" we are referring to the chemical equivilant of patented prescription drugs in the USA.

Lets make this easier. Pfizers patent for viagra in the US expires in 2011. So, you are stating that someone who imports sildenafil citrate in personal use quantities is illegal. Meaning, a licensed pharmacy overseas ships to the consumer in the USA.

care to continue?
there are no FDA approved generics of viagra becase it is on patent..

FDA link
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The types of unlawful conduct that can occur when drugs are sold over the Internet are similar to unlawful activities that occur in other contexts. Under the FD&C Act, FDA has the legal authority to take action against:

* The sale, distribution or importation of an adulterated or misbranded drug;
* The sale, distribution or importation of an unapproved new drug;
* The sale or dispensing of a prescription drug without a valid prescription; and
* Counterfeit drugs.
lol. put up or shut up. were not speaking of new drugs, misbranded ones, or counterfeit drugs. Your statement was :

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uh no it's not legal to import generics from overseas. There are no FDA approved generics for viagra because it is still on patent
According to you if sometihng is still on patent you cannot legally import it in to the USA.
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there are no FDA approved generics of viagra becase it is on patent..

FDA link
you said you wanted to bet. 25k. accept or decline.

again:

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lol. put up or shut up. were not speaking of new drugs, misbranded ones, or counterfeit drugs. Your statement was :



According to you if sometihng is still on patent you cannot legally import it in to the USA.
This thread is about generic viagra. If a drug is still on patent, you cannot import a generic version because it will not have FDA approval. Why don't you read the fucking link, it's crystal clear.
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This thread is about generic viagra. If a drug is still on patent, you cannot import a generic version because it will not have FDA approval. Why don't you read the fucking link, it's crystal clear.
$25k on this. sorry you thought i was asleep
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you said.

"pfizer has a big hard-on for generics. But FACT dictates that it is perfectly legal to import drugs from overseas so long as it is for personal use."

95% of those drugs imported are generic viagra. It is not legal to import that for personal use.
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$25k on this. sorry you thought i was asleep
I'm sorry your business model is a scam.
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you said.

"pfizer has a big hard-on for generics. But FACT dictates that it is perfectly legal to import drugs from overseas so long as it is for personal use."

95% of those drugs imported are generic viagra. It is not legal to import that for personal use.
accept the bet, you stated you wanted to.

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uh no it's not legal to import generics from overseas. There are no FDA approved generics for viagra because it is still on patent
I asked if you cared to wager. you said yes as I qouted your above statement. To be clear for the 3rd time, I am speaking of GENERIC VIAGRA. The chemical equivelent to sildenafil citrate, not manufactured by pfizer.
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put up your evidence that it's legal or shutup. Like I'm gonna accept a 25k bet with someone who's business model if isn't a complete scam is totally unethical.
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put up your evidence that it's legal or shutup. Like I'm gonna accept a 25k bet with someone who's business model if isn't a complete scam is totally unethical.

who have i scammed?
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your sig "penis pill traffic" 'nuff said.
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I assume you mean YOUR facts straight?
Anyway, even when those companies are legit, looks like the word VIAGRA is copyrighted/trademarkerd whatever, so you can not use that in your URL. All those last urls'did have that.
yes. true. back in 98 i got some nice C&Ds from them for several domains I had been using. i gladly transferred the names (changed info) to them the same day. long before UDRP/WIPO/etc. Funny thing is they let most of them expire and they were scooped up once again by other promoters. i didn't spam, didn't need to, had so much type-in traffic with names like -store, news, info, help, forum, dr, doc, etc. about 30+ domains that cost me $70/2yr back in the day. I think the lawyers let them expire so they could milk Pfizer for more money again & again. i learned to stay away from anything close to TM.
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my deepest apologies for buying a domain name with type in traffic, and paying affilaites at basically a loss.
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Old 08-06-2004, 07:55 PM   #39
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Is K-Man anywhere into this ?
Yes, if I am not completely wrong (and as Herbal said) Viagrax is Kmans.
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Old 08-06-2004, 07:57 PM   #40
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Related question: I know I can't use the term Viagraź but it's ok to use sildenafil citrate on my website on a link to a site that sells sildenafil citrate soft tabs, correct???
Yes, you can do that without any trouble.,
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Yes, if I am not completely wrong (and as Herbal said) Viagrax is Kmans.
Curious how this will end

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i I took one before a shoot and it did nothing. I took another one and I began to see vivid blue trails, almost like i was tripping. I got sick and began to vomit.
The vivid blue trails are a result of the ACTIVE INGREDIENT IN VIAGRA.

so you did have the real thing
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