Ill answer any SEO questions truthfully for the next hour - GoFuckYourself.com

crash · 08-12-2004, 10:11 AM

I SEO spam for a living, not only on porn, so ask away

garett · 08-12-2004, 10:13 AM

Do hyphenated keyword-rich domain names really make a difference ?

crash · 08-12-2004, 10:18 AM

Do hyphenated keyword-rich domain names really make a difference ?

to a certain extent yes. Google sees the keywords as seperate if seperated by a hyphen as opposed to one big word. But, it depends on how you are getting links. If you are refspamming for example, keyword rich hyphenated URLS are good as the keywords you want link relevance for are in your URL. If you are doing link trades or generating links in other ways, then the ancor text is important, not the URL.

Oracle Porn · 08-12-2004, 10:19 AM

what products are you selling?
where do you spam? be specific!

AdultNex · 08-12-2004, 10:19 AM

Mmm... Black hat SEO.

What's the most efficient SEO spamming technique?

DarkJedi · 08-12-2004, 10:22 AM

This should be interesting...

please continue.

crash · 08-12-2004, 10:24 AM

what products are you selling?
where do you spam? be specific!

I spam for adult, gambling, astrology, xenical (weight loss drug) pet supplies, loans, travel, nutritional supploments, body building, cruises, mobile phones, jobs, hosting, domain names, DIY, weight loss, data recovery, antispam and recently the olympics

cayne · 08-12-2004, 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by AdultNex
What's the most efficient SEO spamming technique?

2nd. good question

OWNED · 08-12-2004, 10:26 AM

Best way to interlink 15+ websites ?
Best way to get advantage of your 15+ websites ?

vas · 08-12-2004, 10:28 AM

how often do your domains get dropped by google for your spamming techniques.....?

Oracle Porn · 08-12-2004, 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by crash
what products are you selling?
where do you spam? be specific!

I spam for adult, gambling, astrology, xenical (weight loss drug) pet supplies, loans, travel, nutritional supploments, body building, cruises, mobile phones, jobs, hosting, domain names, DIY, weight loss, data recovery, antispam and recently the olympics

where do you spam?
urls please.

crash · 08-12-2004, 10:30 AM

What's the most efficient SEO spamming technique?

Its a vague question, but basically the secret is in the keywords. The more keywords you have, the better your chance of getting traffic is. I run about 3 million Keyword phrases across all my niches. I build a page for each keyword phrase - automatically generated. I have no interest in being no 1 in google for "hardcore" or "blow job" as you get dobbed in as a spammer within a month and lose your traffic. GO for 'sexy asian chick getting fucked"

I have been no 1 for blow job in the past and the traffic was awesome, but nothing compared to ranking somewhere on page 1 for 1 million different 4 or more keyword phrases

crash · 08-12-2004, 10:38 AM

Best way to interlink 15+ websites ?
Best way to get advantage of your 15+ websites ?

set it up so that you do not have recip links to each site.
I would choose 3 sites as recipient link sites, then for each recipient, set link clusters of 4 sites, link em together and push a link to the recipient. for each cluster. I would also link one of the link donor sites to a different link cluster

then interlink the link recipients, but not by recips

AdultNex · 08-12-2004, 10:39 AM

Which domain extension do you commonly use?

Do you think having domains on different IP blocks make a difference in SERP results?

DarkJedi · 08-12-2004, 10:41 AM

show us one of your urls

AdultNex · 08-12-2004, 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by DarkJedi
show us one of your urls

crash · 08-12-2004, 10:44 AM

how often do your domains get dropped by google for your spamming techniques.....?

domains for me provide really great traffic for between 2 and 4 months depending on how agressive I get on the keyword phrases. I have about 40 domains that have been with me for the last 2 years.

Domain renewals is done by my wife and is based on a simple formulea of uniques, greater then 40 Uniques per month, get renewed. Anything less is not renewed. I convert solidly at 1:600, plus a margin, means that I will get one sale at $30 for the $6.95 I pay for the domain, which is a comfortable profit margin.

TheMob · 08-12-2004, 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by crash
Best way to interlink 15+ websites ?
Best way to get advantage of your 15+ websites ?

set it up so that you do not have recip links to each site.
I would choose 3 sites as recipient link sites, then for each recipient, set link clusters of 4 sites, link em together and push a link to the recipient. for each cluster. I would also link one of the link donor sites to a different link cluster

then interlink the link recipients, but not by recips

English?

I have a TOP 100 tech single keyword .com domain. How do I get it in on the first page of google?

emthree · 08-12-2004, 10:46 AM

What does sebots think of textboxes and hidden text in html

alexg · 08-12-2004, 10:46 AM

How do you get pr4+ domains to spam with?

Do you build them by yourself, ie link to them from pr domains you already got, or do you buy them in other ways?

AdultNex · 08-12-2004, 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by TheMob?
English?

Think about it. Read what he said, and map it out using a pen and paper.

It's easier that way.

OWNED · 08-12-2004, 10:47 AM

1. where do you research keyphrases ?
2. how do you aquire PR ?
3. main optimization principles for Yahoo ?
4. how not to get penalized by Yahoo ?
5. how not to get penalized by google ?
6. how to get adult sites into MSN ?

crash · 08-12-2004, 10:48 AM

Which domain extension do you commonly use?

Do you think having domains on different IP blocks make a difference in SERP results?

I dont care about the domain extension. I use all. recently I have been using .biz simply coz it hasnt been around for long, so there is little chance of it being already banned by google. The woirst thing you can do as an seo spammer is buy domains that have already been banned by google.

TheMob · 08-12-2004, 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by crash
Which domain extension do you commonly use?

Do you think having domains on different IP blocks make a difference in SERP results?

I dont care about the domain extension. I use all. recently I have been using .biz simply coz it hasnt been around for long, so there is little chance of it being already banned by google. The woirst thing you can do as an seo spammer is buy domains that have already been banned by google.

The makes room for the next question.

How do search engines treat subdomains?

crash · 08-12-2004, 10:51 AM

show us one of your urls

www.ymcinteractive.com

TheMob · 08-12-2004, 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by AdultNex
Think about it. Read what he said, and map it out using a pen and paper.

It's easier that way.

Yeah, it makes more sense now that I mapped it out on a piece of paper. SEO'ing is a science.

AdultNex · 08-12-2004, 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by crash
show us one of your urls

www.ymcinteractive.com

Clever.

emthree · 08-12-2004, 10:54 AM

What's is your PR for the pages that get listed on page 1/2 for top phrases?
How long does it usually take for you to aquire those spots?
Do you normally tweek your pages after being generated?

crash · 08-12-2004, 10:55 AM

I have a TOP 100 tech single keyword .com domain. How do I get it in on the first page of google?

that I cant answer as there is no golden rule, it depends on the keywords you are wanting to get ranked for. I could spend 1 month trying to get ranked for "data recovery" and still fail. thats why I dont shoot for the really competitive keyword phrases.

emthree · 08-12-2004, 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by emthree
What do sebots think of textboxes and hidden text in html

{fusion} · 08-12-2004, 10:57 AM

where you get updates of new google bot ips from? i assume your cloaking using that many pages.

do you use rss feeds or you use story text or just random crap?

crash · 08-12-2004, 10:59 AM

What does sebots think of textboxes and hidden text in html

I find that textboxes interfere with my keyword %age - i consider keyword distribution, frequency and psition in my spam.

Dont hide text on pages unless you really know what you are doing

crash · 08-12-2004, 11:01 AM

How do you get pr4+ domains to spam with?

Do you build them by yourself, ie link to them from pr domains you already got, or do you buy them in other ways?

-----------------------------------------------------------------

I was using drops but since that died, I build DMOZ sites, refspam, and link trades, and buy PR links

emthree · 08-12-2004, 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by crash

I find that textboxes interfere with my keyword %age -

Thanks.

OWNED · 08-12-2004, 11:06 AM

1. where do you research keyphrases ?
2. how do you aquire PR ?
3. main optimization principles for Yahoo ?
4. how not to get penalized by Yahoo ?
5. how not to get penalized by google ?
6. how to get adult sites into MSN ?
7. where do u buy PR links from ?

crash · 08-12-2004, 11:06 AM

ok 10 mins left

1. where do you research keyphrases ?
2. how do you aquire PR ?
3. main optimization principles for Yahoo ?
4. how not to get penalized by Yahoo ?
5. how not to get penalized by google ?
6. how to get adult sites into MSN ?

__________________

1 inventory.overture.com, wordtracker, and my logs
2.see above.
3. I dont optimise for overture, but everything i do for google works for Yahoo
4. dunno
5. by spamming read their webmaster guidelines - cant remember the URL
6. Until the launch their new system there are only 2 ways, use an index connect partner or pay to be included

smashface · 08-12-2004, 11:09 AM

I didnt see it answered yet, but what script/program are you using to generate your pages?

crash · 08-12-2004, 11:10 AM

What's is your PR for the pages that get listed on page 1/2 for top phrases?
How long does it usually take for you to aquire those spots?
Do you normally tweek your pages after being generated?

-------------------------------------------------------------
PR doesnt matter, it depends on the Keyword phrase, anywhere between 0 and 6

depends on the technique I am using - between 3 days for refspam, and about 2 months for dmoz / paid liksting.

Nope, build em and leave, em, I do fuck around with links though

McKracken · 08-12-2004, 11:12 AM

1. what do you do?
2. How do you do it?

shoot away... and hurry before I get my ass kicked for being online against the doc's order

dikkechill · 08-12-2004, 11:12 AM

Which sponsor is your biggest money maker atm

crash · 08-12-2004, 11:12 AM

where you get updates of new google bot ips from? i assume your cloaking using that many pages.

do you use rss feeds or you use story text or just random crap?

I dont IP cloak - I just cant be bothered when there is a much simpler way.

RSS feeds are bing implemented by my programmers as we speak, but i have no idea what the results will be

crash · 08-12-2004, 11:16 AM

I didnt see it answered yet, but what script/program are you using to generate your pages?
---------------------------------------------------

I used to use a desktop tool that made all the pages, then I uploaded them. OVer the last 6 months I have been developing a php script - now complete - that automatically buys domains, delegates them on my server, adds the keywords and builds the pages, based on templates that I specify. There is nothing comercially available that does this that I know of. Basically its all custom built and, NO, ITS NOT FOR SALE.

dirtysouth · 08-12-2004, 11:16 AM

Blogspam tips or is it overrated?

McKracken · 08-12-2004, 11:22 AM

I have a PR5 domain... gambling... it is on page 2-3 of search results right now... each time i make it to top10 I get kicked in next update by domains with shittier content and pr...

what should I focus on to hold my topspots.

Thanks

crash · 08-12-2004, 11:23 AM

Which sponsor is your biggest money maker atm

--------------------------------------------------------------
Its basically a tie between
silvercash, google adsense, wegcash, and casinocoins, and cj.com
but from my stats remote in order of revenue this month so far:

casino coins
silvercash
google adsense
wegcash
comission Junction

last month was:
SC
CC
adsense
wegcash
TCG

I have had fun with this hope I answered questions to your satisfaction, but I can say I answered them all honestly

spacemonk · 08-12-2004, 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by crash

I used to use a desktop tool that made all the pages

What tool?

smashface · 08-12-2004, 11:24 AM

Thanks Crash

Preacher · 08-12-2004, 11:25 AM

great thread.... now let it die folks!

kmanrox · 08-12-2004, 11:26 AM

hey crash, hit my icq i have a proposal... a decent one (as opposed to indecent proposal)

garett · 08-12-2004, 11:28 AM

Do you ever worry that your entire business model is dependant on an independant board of directors with their own self interest in mind who could crush your entire operation leaving you unemployed and couldn't care less because you're "just a spammer" ?

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OWNED So Fucking Banned Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 852	Best way to interlink 15+ websites ? Best way to get advantage of your 15+ websites ?

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crash Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 97	What's the most efficient SEO spamming technique? Its a vague question, but basically the secret is in the keywords. The more keywords you have, the better your chance of getting traffic is. I run about 3 million Keyword phrases across all my niches. I build a page for each keyword phrase - automatically generated. I have no interest in being no 1 in google for "hardcore" or "blow job" as you get dobbed in as a spammer within a month and lose your traffic. GO for 'sexy asian chick getting fucked" I have been no 1 for blow job in the past and the traffic was awesome, but nothing compared to ranking somewhere on page 1 for 1 million different 4 or more keyword phrases __________________ My Adult Banners The Webs Leading Adult Banner Exchange Network

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crash Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 97	Best way to interlink 15+ websites ? Best way to get advantage of your 15+ websites ? set it up so that you do not have recip links to each site. I would choose 3 sites as recipient link sites, then for each recipient, set link clusters of 4 sites, link em together and push a link to the recipient. for each cluster. I would also link one of the link donor sites to a different link cluster then interlink the link recipients, but not by recips __________________ My Adult Banners The Webs Leading Adult Banner Exchange Network

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crash Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 97	how often do your domains get dropped by google for your spamming techniques.....? domains for me provide really great traffic for between 2 and 4 months depending on how agressive I get on the keyword phrases. I have about 40 domains that have been with me for the last 2 years. Domain renewals is done by my wife and is based on a simple formulea of uniques, greater then 40 Uniques per month, get renewed. Anything less is not renewed. I convert solidly at 1:600, plus a margin, means that I will get one sale at $30 for the $6.95 I pay for the domain, which is a comfortable profit margin. __________________ My Adult Banners The Webs Leading Adult Banner Exchange Network

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crash Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 97	Which domain extension do you commonly use? Do you think having domains on different IP blocks make a difference in SERP results? I dont care about the domain extension. I use all. recently I have been using .biz simply coz it hasnt been around for long, so there is little chance of it being already banned by google. The woirst thing you can do as an seo spammer is buy domains that have already been banned by google. __________________ My Adult Banners The Webs Leading Adult Banner Exchange Network

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crash Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 97	I have a TOP 100 tech single keyword .com domain. How do I get it in on the first page of google? that I cant answer as there is no golden rule, it depends on the keywords you are wanting to get ranked for. I could spend 1 month trying to get ranked for "data recovery" and still fail. thats why I dont shoot for the really competitive keyword phrases. __________________ My Adult Banners The Webs Leading Adult Banner Exchange Network

08-12-2004, 10:57 AM	#31
{fusion} Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,650	where you get updates of new google bot ips from? i assume your cloaking using that many pages. do you use rss feeds or you use story text or just random crap?

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crash Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 97	What does sebots think of textboxes and hidden text in html I find that textboxes interfere with my keyword %age - i consider keyword distribution, frequency and psition in my spam. Dont hide text on pages unless you really know what you are doing __________________ My Adult Banners The Webs Leading Adult Banner Exchange Network

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crash Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 97	How do you get pr4+ domains to spam with? Do you build them by yourself, ie link to them from pr domains you already got, or do you buy them in other ways? ----------------------------------------------------------------- I was using drops but since that died, I build DMOZ sites, refspam, and link trades, and buy PR links __________________ My Adult Banners The Webs Leading Adult Banner Exchange Network

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crash Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 97	What's is your PR for the pages that get listed on page 1/2 for top phrases? How long does it usually take for you to aquire those spots? Do you normally tweek your pages after being generated? ------------------------------------------------------------- PR doesnt matter, it depends on the Keyword phrase, anywhere between 0 and 6 depends on the technique I am using - between 3 days for refspam, and about 2 months for dmoz / paid liksting. Nope, build em and leave, em, I do fuck around with links though __________________ My Adult Banners The Webs Leading Adult Banner Exchange Network

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crash Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 97	Which sponsor is your biggest money maker atm -------------------------------------------------------------- Its basically a tie between silvercash, google adsense, wegcash, and casinocoins, and cj.com but from my stats remote in order of revenue this month so far: casino coins silvercash google adsense wegcash comission Junction last month was: SC CC adsense wegcash TCG I have had fun with this hope I answered questions to your satisfaction, but I can say I answered them all honestly __________________ My Adult Banners The Webs Leading Adult Banner Exchange Network

08-12-2004, 11:24 AM	#47
smashface Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: San Francisco, California Posts: 991	Thanks Crash

08-12-2004, 11:25 AM	#48
Preacher Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 2,970	great thread.... now let it die folks!