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Jace · 08-30-2004, 07:40 PM

why does everyone keep thinking this is actually in the constitution?

http://www.noapathy.org/tracts/mythofseparation.html

tony286 · 08-30-2004, 08:22 PM

Did you look at the rest of the site . Its a radical christian site. The founding fathers were deists , they didnt want the church to have nothing to do with the government . They remembered the mess it was in England. In god we trust did nt go on coins until 1861 and that was from pressure from the religious community which policitians started to realize had voting power. In god we trust didnt go paper money until 1955 during the red scare.

CET · 08-30-2004, 08:55 PM

Please consider the Treaty of Tripoli, which was signed by congress and the president unanimously, and many of them were at the original Continental Congress and Constitutional Conventions. It was ratified June 7, 1797. The revolution and why we had it was still fresh in everyone's minds and most of the founding fathers were still active in politics.

ARTICLE 11.
As the government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian Religion,-as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion or tranquility of Musselmen,-and as the said States never have entered into any war or act of hostility against any Mehomitan nation, it is declared by the parties that no pretext arising from religious opinions shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries.

The muslims of Tripoli were nervous that the Americans would use their religion as an excuse to discriminate and even presecute another crusade. This tells us, as well as other things, that the founding fathers almost unanimously agreed that religion has no place in government.

The myth that that phrase is in the Constitution is legitimate, but the intention is not.

http://www.yale.edu/lawweb/avalon/di...y/bar1796t.htm

Joe Citizen · 08-30-2004, 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by JaceXXX
why does everyone keep thinking this is actually in the constitution?

http://www.noapathy.org/tracts/mythofseparation.html

The intention is clear.

Government has no business in the religion business.

08-30-2004, 07:40 PM	#1
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CET Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 2,754	Please consider the Treaty of Tripoli, which was signed by congress and the president unanimously, and many of them were at the original Continental Congress and Constitutional Conventions. It was ratified June 7, 1797. The revolution and why we had it was still fresh in everyone's minds and most of the founding fathers were still active in politics. ARTICLE 11. As the government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian Religion,-as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion or tranquility of Musselmen,-and as the said States never have entered into any war or act of hostility against any Mehomitan nation, it is declared by the parties that no pretext arising from religious opinions shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries. The muslims of Tripoli were nervous that the Americans would use their religion as an excuse to discriminate and even presecute another crusade. This tells us, as well as other things, that the founding fathers almost unanimously agreed that religion has no place in government. The myth that that phrase is in the Constitution is legitimate, but the intention is not. http://www.yale.edu/lawweb/avalon/di...y/bar1796t.htm __________________ Alt Journals, Blogs for Perverts! Fitness and nutrition writer, and UNIX/Linux Sys Ad in training "Just as a man who has fallen into a heap of filth ought to seek the great pond of water covered with lotuses, which is near by: even so seek thou for the great deathless lake of Nirvana to wash off the defilement of wrong. If the lake is not sought, it is not the fault of the lake."

08-30-2004, 08:22 PM	#2
tony286 lurker Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: atlanta Posts: 57,021	Did you look at the rest of the site . Its a radical christian site. The founding fathers were deists , they didnt want the church to have nothing to do with the government . They remembered the mess it was in England. In god we trust did nt go on coins until 1861 and that was from pressure from the religious community which policitians started to realize had voting power. In god we trust didnt go paper money until 1955 during the red scare.